Me: ‘Bark like a dog.’
Her: ‘Ruff ruff.’
Me: ‘No, higher. Like a poodle.’
via Rational Male
It’s why asking a girl to cheat on her boyfriend or abandon her long-term dating strategy are the same thing.
“Every girl should trade up once in her life. I hear it’s a fucking rush.”
Wait- that’s brilliant. The rush ‘to get past the uncomfortable stages of clumsily developing rapport’ through what-do-you-do-who-are-you talk stems from rejection-avoidance fear. Brilliant.
I’ve felt something was wrong whenever I devolved into that behavior. Now I know why.
I’ve wanted to laud you for a while now, but I really have to say you’ve been killing it in an area which has been underserved in the attraction-dynamics market. Understanding women. When you ‘get’ women, you don’t make mistakes. You have a knack for focusing on the subtleties of the female mind, and your writing has absolutely changed my game for the better. Thank you.
As a guy in the bottom 50% of the looks and height department, I’ve only had luck with direct game. If I catch her looking at me, I’ll hold that stare, and if she looks again, I just go in and say hi. Maybe it’s that I was born in the 70s and we were really used to TV casanovas doing that, but that’s how I learned it — Vinnie Barbarino on WBK or one of the other “high school” players on TV. Hell, there was a popular character on Friends who would just go right up to women and talk to them — of course he’s in the top 10%.
Differing the straight up SNL PUA community, a key to direct game if you’re not beautiful and model-like is to make the approach seem like she invited you. My best looking guy friends will look for hot women, approach from the side and then appear to turn off their path to talk to a woman just long enough to see if she’s into them — it’s more looks than action here.
If you’re not gorgeous, you can easily tell if a woman is at least curious about your look for whatever reason. Don’t pop around town with Mystery’s feathery hat, but if you have style or a good smile, a solid inverted-pyramid physique or an interesting pair of hipster glasses, women may be curious over it even if your face is a mess of scars and pock marks.
So rather than do what the hot guys can do in the club — coming off at an angle and acting like you’re too busy to talk for long — the average to ugly dude has to basically do the opposite. This requires a ton more confidence, if you ask me, because (a) you’re going up to her while she fully watches it, (b) chances are neither of you are drunk, and (c) even if you’re confident, the first words out of your mouth may come out garbled and messy.
In response to that:
(a) If she’s watching you and gives you a smile, you’re in. Way more in than drunky HB9 at a bar who didn’t notice your stride until the last second. If she’s watching you approach and she looks away and never turns back, feel free to bail.
(b) This is good — she’s not drunk, so she’s even more nervous. Play on that.
(c) Don’t think of any opening lines to say — use your practiced ones. “Hi, I’m Brian.” That’s enough. Honestly — day game is vastly different than night game because your chance of a SNL is much slimmer, and the women aren’t always cock carousel riders like they are in the bar scene.
I think direct day game is MUCH better for the average-to-ugly guy. I’ve said it here before and gotten chastised for it, but I much prefer low maintenance women with jobs than high maintenance club HB9s with attention whoring issues. The women you meet before noon or around noon probably HAVE jobs, and at least got up early enough to be out and about and dressed reasonably well at that hour. Have you seen, during the day, the average bar-going HB9 who is out until 4am? I have, no thanks.
Remembered 3 more direct approaches:
1. Usually use this in bars- walk up to a group of girls and ask, ‘excuse me, how do you girls feel about the prenuptial agreement?’ Always a hit, especially if you make fun of the ones who are against it.
2. Girl walks by in a bar, ‘excuse me, two caronas please.’ (via Hitch: http://bit.ly/QQKnG @ 0:45)
3. Also, “Hi girls, want to buy me a drink? I don’t have any money.” (via The League: http://bit.ly/uwFizQ)
Day game? Both.
For me the indirect approach is drawn out, but the pounce is smooth and quick.
Example, if you’re going to be near her for a few minutes (bus, , etc.) hold off for a few minutes. No eye glances or talking. Do your own thing. Let her be aware of your presence, but don’t give any cards away. Then you can say just about anything and she’ll be interested to hear it.
But when you’re chatting her up, don’t draw out the ‘can I have your number’ stage or ‘what-do-you-do’ serious stuff. Don’t try and maneuver her towards next steps- when she asks what you do just give her a card. When you say goodbye, hand her a card. Girls don’t pursue, but she will let you know she’s available if she likes you.
That being said, even my indirect game isn’t boring. Example, hottie cash register girl is giving the black guy in front of me his change. As he leaves, she says ‘would you like some chocolate?’
Easy layup. I walk up and say, staring at her eyes, ‘you can’t ask a black guy if he wants chocolate, that’s racist.’ (Bold move since it’s said to a stranger, but doesn’t convey any interest.)
She laughs and says, ‘this one guy said “no, but I’ll take a chocolate kiss”.’
Me, walking away, ‘oh, so you’re black?’ Her: Yeah! (More smiles)
I caught up with her after, gave her my card.
For direct game, I have a number of go-to gags. The one thing in common is that they are funny to me and my friends, even if they don’t go over. I’ll try and remember..
1. For any super hot chick, as she’s walking by I’ll stop her and say, “I will buy you anything.” Usually gets a laugh. If I see her again, I’ll take out my credit card and just hand it to her and say something funny. I walk away and she has to chase after me since she needs to give me my card back.
2. If it’s a group of girls sitting at a table, I’ll grab a menu, walk over and say, ‘can I take your order.’ This works well at night too.
3. If it’s a hot waitress or barkeep in a crowded place, I’ll ask for a piece of paper and a pen. I’ll tear it in half and write a ‘boyfriend application.’
4. Not mine, but I have a friend who opens girls with, “Do you hate your father?” So good.
5. I’m working on a new one right now, my new atom bomb. Basically, I’ll jump up on a chair or table and do pretty much these exact dance moves. Works in casinos, nightclubs, any crowded place:
A girl can be ruthlessly hypergamous without it negatively impacting her identity. If she’s single, she can fuck the entire basketball team without it affecting her self-image unless she’s caught and slut-shamed (this rarely happens). If she’s in a relationship and her hypergamous drive ruins it, it’s totally justifiable via feelings. And most girls project an image of girlfriend-type no matter what, < or = 7 partners, even if it's as real as make-up.
If a guy exercises his male imperative and sleeps around, he's that kind of guy. He made that choice, it's who he is. We've even created a name for that identity- alpha. A rebranding of asshole or jerk.
The difference is girls like alpha, men don't like hypergamous women (a reversal of The Threat). Chicks who talk about their sexual conquests are like women who brag about their careers or act arrogant- they are projecting the behavior they want from men. Men aren't attracted to it.
Girls like assholes, and they only stop when they've been hurt too many times and settle for someone safer. It's not true that 'women don't know what they want.' They want the basketball player to call them back.
Every time a girl tells a story about some douchebag thing a guy did to her in the past, I always respond, 'yeah, but girls like assholes.' I tell one I hand my business card out to girls and she says, 'OMG, only jerks do that.' There is only one response- 'yeah, but girls like assholes.' They never push back.
My failed pickup attempts these days come from not being asshole/funny enough- if the conversation slips to who-do-you-know-what-do-you-do, it's dead. If I'm making fun of her or being a happy jerk, it's on.
This is the essence of pickup in a minute 25: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DHq86W8IZ8
Fearless, crisp masculine display followed by nothing.
The most beta an alpha can be is 'attentive.' Never conceding.
There is no guilt in being an alpha jerk when you understand women want it.
The girl who wants me most right now is my next door neighbor- the one who hears me bring different girls home.
Do old people write about the apocalypse so much because *their* world is dying?
My generation doesn’t care about your lib/con/lib neapolitan.. in thirty years your ideological horsemen won’t even be relevant. The conservative ideocracy will have died off until they no longer matter as a political force and kids raised on the internet won’t need to cling to frivolous party lines. Apocalypse No.
Is this the blog post you’re going to link to when you write another ‘i told you so’ after the Euro falls?
Link-bait for old people… you really want more obligatory ‘why my marriage failed’ comments in every thread? Spend time with more young people.. you know.. the ones doing the actual fucking.
[heartiste: hey man i hear ya. i’m fucking without the imprimatur of marriage and as far as i’m concerned, this lifestyle suits me fine. that don’t mean the end ain’t coming.]
Shocker: “My generation doesn’t care about your lib/con/lib neapolitan.. ”
What does your generation care about then? America is a constitutional two party system. LIb/con.
“dictators die and the power they took from the people, will return to the people and so long as men die [now] liberty will never perish. . .”
It wasn’t too long ago when the changing of governments was measured in generations, and charlie chaplin reminds us of this. The wheel of time eventually crushes bad ideas.. but it turns s l o w l y
“…theyre the ones doing the actual fucking,” So Alpha-Beta-Omega doesnt apply to you? “Spend time with more young people…” Thats the general idea!!!
I’m here for two reasons 1) I enjoy participating in communities at the forefront of developing something new. The best UK d&b and dub artists created the sound now taking over the world when they were nothings in UK ghettos. I used to get high with the slackliner who just got his 15 minutes doing the half-time show with Madonna, and I got to see him build his slacklife sub-culture from the ground up and he’s now living his life to the fullest. That creative identity forming journey is the sweetest adventure in boring american life, and CH with its wackjob regulars and backwards drudge report right wing slant is the closest thing I’ve found to cutting edge ghetto in a subject very dear to me- dropping panties. Reason 2, I want to spin plates. Most men never even see what it’s like when a girl is trying to get at an-demand guy. I’m talking go over to his house in a pea coat and nothing else because he plays basketball. Send him dirty texts at 2am in hopes he’ll let you come over. I’ve seen it my whole life, lately its the only sex I want and I want more of it. This is the only community I’ve found (other than bro culture) that comes close to describing the attitude and behavior to get tail to dance like this.
Bullshit on what? That horny girls do this shit? Read the first entry in this one:
Girls do this all the time. I said I see it everywhere, I didn’t say I’m always the recipient. Like I’m some wanna-be guru for mentioning this stuff? Yea.. me and that paragon of pussy slaying, Justin Long: http://youtu.be/_guTlGpi__c
How is this even a question in a PUA blog. Like I said, ghetto.
Ha, is that what folk in your part of the world call rich people?
Black people/rich folks, you’re confusing the two groups you hate there, eh redneck?
‘Yall should re-evaluate the usefulness of hate in getting laid– it don’t work good.
#1 A small percentage of men raised by single moms grow up to be ultra alphas. Teddy Roosevelt, Bill Clinton, Lance Armstrong, Samuel Jackson, Jet Li, Shaq, Jack Nicholson, Me.
little dogs get pussy
I got the text at 2am on Friday that said, ‘open your door.’
When I opened it ten minutes later, the buzzed little spinner took my hand, dragged me to my room and was deepthroating me as soon as my pants were off. She wouldn’t let me sleep because every 20 minutes her hand would find my cock for another round. She dumped her fiance a week ago.
She kept saying, ‘I know who you are and you get with tons of girls, but I still couldn’t stop thinking about you tonight.’
‘You say the rudest things about girls, but I still wanted to surprise you.’
Game works. Oh, and she wasn’t going for rounds 3, 4 and 5 because she just loves me oh so much– she knew I was going clubbing on Saturday and wanted to make damn sure I was drained and wouldn’t be motivated to bring home another slam piece.
Plugins have a good sense for what makes LTRs work. But there’s a whole other relationship model for having girls kick down your door to rip your clothes off.