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| YaReally | |
| on September 12, 2012 at 3:30 pm |
It’s been my experience that a lot of guys who talk about how great virgins are and how much better they are and how they’re the ultimate prize, are usually guys who’ve never actually been with a virgin, or have only been with one or two max.
| YaReally | |
| on July 30th, 2013 at 12:30 am |
With regards to the OP, from my archive:
““Oh wow you’ve only been with one guy? That’s really impressive, most girls have to sleep with a few guys before they figure out what they really like in be. You’re so lucky that the first guy you slept with is perfect in bed. Oh? It’s not perfect? Well I’m sure he’s trying, I mean you guys have role played right? No? Well he lets you have toys doesn’t he? Oh he’s jealous of those? Huh…I don’t know, I mean personally I think we should all explore our sexual sides before we commit to someone so that we know that person is the right one for us. I don’t mean you and I, I’m totally not the kind of guy you’d want to sleep with…you saw those other girls that i was kissing, I’m not the commitment type and you’d never hear from me again after tonight, even your friends wouldn’t know about us playing around you wouldn’t want to be stuck with a big secret like that.”
And then I fuck her. And she never tells you. And you continue to think your Madonna isn’t like “those whores” while I show the naked pics she sent me to my buddies.”
http://yareallyarchive.com/search/?q=%22Only+been+with+one%22
Find a cool chick, of whatever age/history, that you click with and have good chemistry in and out of the bedroom with, and then focus on always being the best you can be and growing as a man in general, so her Hypergamy sees you as the highest value man for her. Stuff like “if she’s had 4 cocks in her it makes pair-bonding chemicals less blah blah” is like a dress code for bars: it only applies to ugly low-value people.
“An utter trainwreck of a marriage.”
This.
Also, down the road when you let your guard down for a minute, she’ll fuck a guy like me that she meets on a girls’ night out or in the grocery store or wherever, because she’ll be attracted and say “well I’ve only ever been with one man…I wonder what sex with other men is like, is it better? Worse? What does another penis look like?”
And her grrrlfriends will encourage her to explore her sexuality because Eat Pray Love and all that, and she’ll have a couple slutty friends who insist she tries sucking a new dick when she’s feeling vulnerable about your guys’ relationship at some point in your marriage, because the slutty girls will feel less slutty and judged if their virgin friend has sucked a few cocks herself.
Don’t legally tie yourself and your finances to her. This warning is from experience as the guy who’s seduced these girls. Having only been with one cock is the biggest “rationalize cheating on my man” card ever…whether she uses it because she’s mad at you or not in love with you anymore, or because she’s in love with you but just legitimately curious and placed in an opportune situation.
“is there nothing that you could find out about a spouse that would that would cause you to say you are through?”
I’ve done things with girlfriends/fiances/wives of other men that would fucking TERRIFY the guy to learn that his sweet angle was capable of that. I keep in touch with some of them and they have zero problem lying to their guy about it (like the virgin I introduced to bondage who’s now-fiancé thinks he’s the first one to tie her up and that tying her hands to the bedpost is “risqué” lol), because all they fear is judgement.
I say again, there is no difference between the Madonna and the whore’s potential sluttiness, how much they act on it depends on their environment. She’ll just lie about her past more depending on how judgemental you seem, and that only accounts for her PAST…
cause even if you FOUND the unicorn, even if you defied all odds and legitimately GOT yourself a chaste unicorn, hedging your bets that your chaste unicorn will remain that way through your marriage is just silly. You would have to keep her away from every man better than you which, if you’ve beta’ed yourself up into promising monogamy and willingly given away your freedom and manhood, is pretty much any other guy out there.
Literally all a guy like me has to do when we meet her is say “oh you’ve only been with one guy? That’s weird…most girls don’t even have good sex with their first guy. That’s other girls though, you probably don’t even wonder what another guy’s cock looks like lol I’m sure your guy is a Nice Dude who loves you and probably hasn’t been with any other girls either. Oh? He has? That’s weird, are you ever intimidated that he has more sexual experience than you? I wonder if he compares you to the other girls he’s had sex with.”
Etc etc etc. easy by-the-books PUA tactics.
Yes. Do this.
Then in a few years after the magic has died down I’ll run into her on a girls’ night out.
“Oh wow you’ve only been with one guy? That’s really impressive, most girls have to sleep with a few guys before they figure out what they really like in be. You’re so lucky that the first guy you slept with is perfect in bed. Oh? It’s not perfect? Well I’m sure he’s trying, I mean you guys have role played right? No? Well he lets you have toys doesn’t he? Oh he’s jealous of those? Huh…I don’t know, I mean personally I think we should all explore our sexual sides before we commit to someone so that we know that person is the right one for us. I don’t mean you and I, I’m totally not the kind of guy you’d want to sleep with…you saw those other girls that i was kissing, I’m not the commitment type and you’d never hear from me again after tonight, even your friends wouldn’t know about us playing around you wouldn’t want to be stuck with a big secret like that.”
And then I fuck her. And she never tells you. And you continue to think your Madonna isn’t like “those whores” while I show the naked pics she sent me to my buddies.
| YaReally | |
| on June 14, 2014 at 5:49 pm |
How to bang a girl who’s only had one sexual partner who’s been dragged out to the bar for a Girls’ Night Out:
“Oh wow you’ve only been with one guy? That’s really impressive, most girls have to sleep with a few guys before they figure out what they really like in bed. You’re so lucky that the first guy you slept with can get you off in bed, the first partner I had sex with was terrible lol but I couldn’t tell because I didn’t have any frame of reference for what good sex was…everyone was like “wow sex is amazing” and I was like “uhh it’s okay I guess” lol
Oh? You’ve never really gotten off with him? Well I’m sure he’s trying, I mean you guys have role played right? No? Well he lets you have toys doesn’t he? Oh he’s jealous of those? Huh…
Well he’s probably trying. You’re probably HIS first too, right? So he doesn’t–oh what? You’re NOT his first? Oh that’s weird…are you ever intimidated that he has more sexual experience than you? Well he probably doesn’t compare you to other girls he’s had sex with, if he’s talking about marriage already then you don’t need to try other guys or experiment because he’s already decided for you that you guys have good sex, so really that saves you a lot of trouble ’cause it can be hard to find someone who really turns you on, and that you’re attracted to, and that you have this amazing sexual chemistry with when you’re around them…
I don’t know, I mean personally I think we should all explore our sexual sides before we commit to someone so that we know that person is the right one for us. I don’t mean you and I, I’m totally not the kind of guy you’d want to sleep with…you saw those other girls that I was kissing, I’m not the commitment type and you’d never hear from me again after tonight…even your friends wouldn’t know about us playing around, you wouldn’t want to be stuck with a big secret like that.”
It’s even easier if her girlfriends are party girls because for them to act slutty they need HER to slut it up so they don’t feel judged…like how fat chicks will try to get their skinny friend to fatten up so they can feel okay about themselves. So her friends will HELP you fuck her telling her she needs to try another guy before she settles down and don’t you want to see more than one cock aren’t you curious blah blah because if she fucks some random dude then she’s no longer pristine and perfect and they don’t feel like she can judge their hooking up behavior.
I mean fuck, I didn’t even click your link until just now to skim it and literally the first paragraph is basically her brain dump of everything my routine up there pokes at:
“As someone who waited until I was married to have sex, I was assured that I would be guaranteed an easy and rewarding sex life. When reality turned out to be different, I was disappointed and disillusioned. Only through gradual conversations with other married friends did I realize I wasn’t alone.
I started to wonder if maybe the expectations themselves were wrong. Maybe what I’d been told or inferred about post-marital sex simply wasn’t true.”
lol Imagine that girl gets dragged to a bar for a birthday or some shit with her girlfriends, she’s had a drink or two and danced and she’s in a good state having fun and there’s sex in the air all around her because of the environment. And then a guy like me comes along, after she wrote this blog article that says this first paragraph, and I start going into the shit I wrote above, hitting every damn chord in her mind.
Shit, that whole article is gold. I would just quote parts of that directly to a “Good Girl” lol That’s hilarious.
Anyway, ya, get your girl off. Give her good sex. It’s not hard, I’m not some high-energy crazy sex-machine that can rail away for hours. Watch Squirting 101, read Sex God Method, read My Secret Garden and its’ sequel, read some chick erotica like 50 Shades of Grey, watch some lesbian porn, watch some fucked up hardcore domination porn…You should be making her orgasm like 3-6 times when you hook up (unless she’s the type where her body gets too sensitive to touch after she cums, and even then you can chill and cuddle and have her get you off for a while and then probably give her a 2nd orgasm once her body settles a bit).
I’ve had girls give their girlfriends’ my number or bring them out to party just because they’re like “you need to have sex with this guy”. A fuckbuddy from back home txted me a few weeks ago that her friend is passing thru my city and she told her about our bedroom shit and she wants to hook up…she doesn’t even KNOW me, but it’s because I don’t half-ass the bedroom shit and I don’t subscribe to the whole retarded “she’ll be happy if I’m happy, who cares if she gets off” notion that some guys have (especially in the Manosphere, where it’s “cool” to be super aloof and not give a shit about girls or actively hate them instead of WANTING to give them some pleasure).
The biggest key to being good in bed is actually LIKING women lol
| YaReally | |
| on June 14, 2014 at 5:49 pm |
How to bang a girl who’s only had one sexual partner who’s been dragged out to the bar for a Girls’ Night Out:
“Oh wow you’ve only been with one guy? That’s really impressive, most girls have to sleep with a few guys before they figure out what they really like in bed. You’re so lucky that the first guy you slept with can get you off in bed, the first partner I had sex with was terrible lol but I couldn’t tell because I didn’t have any frame of reference for what good sex was…everyone was like “wow sex is amazing” and I was like “uhh it’s okay I guess” lol
Oh? You’ve never really gotten off with him? Well I’m sure he’s trying, I mean you guys have role played right? No? Well he lets you have toys doesn’t he? Oh he’s jealous of those? Huh…
Well he’s probably trying. You’re probably HIS first too, right? So he doesn’t–oh what? You’re NOT his first? Oh that’s weird…are you ever intimidated that he has more sexual experience than you? Well he probably doesn’t compare you to other girls he’s had sex with, if he’s talking about marriage already then you don’t need to try other guys or experiment because he’s already decided for you that you guys have good sex, so really that saves you a lot of trouble ’cause it can be hard to find someone who really turns you on, and that you’re attracted to, and that you have this amazing sexual chemistry with when you’re around them…
I don’t know, I mean personally I think we should all explore our sexual sides before we commit to someone so that we know that person is the right one for us. I don’t mean you and I, I’m totally not the kind of guy you’d want to sleep with…you saw those other girls that I was kissing, I’m not the commitment type and you’d never hear from me again after tonight…even your friends wouldn’t know about us playing around, you wouldn’t want to be stuck with a big secret like that.”
It’s even easier if her girlfriends are party girls because for them to act slutty they need HER to slut it up so they don’t feel judged…like how fat chicks will try to get their skinny friend to fatten up so they can feel okay about themselves. So her friends will HELP you fuck her telling her she needs to try another guy before she settles down and don’t you want to see more than one cock aren’t you curious blah blah because if she fucks some random dude then she’s no longer pristine and perfect and they don’t feel like she can judge their hooking up behavior.
I mean fuck, I didn’t even click your link until just now to skim it and literally the first paragraph is basically her brain dump of everything my routine up there pokes at:
“As someone who waited until I was married to have sex, I was assured that I would be guaranteed an easy and rewarding sex life. When reality turned out to be different, I was disappointed and disillusioned. Only through gradual conversations with other married friends did I realize I wasn’t alone.
I started to wonder if maybe the expectations themselves were wrong. Maybe what I’d been told or inferred about post-marital sex simply wasn’t true.”
lol Imagine that girl gets dragged to a bar for a birthday or some shit with her girlfriends, she’s had a drink or two and danced and she’s in a good state having fun and there’s sex in the air all around her because of the environment. And then a guy like me comes along, after she wrote this blog article that says this first paragraph, and I start going into the shit I wrote above, hitting every damn chord in her mind.
Shit, that whole article is gold. I would just quote parts of that directly to a “Good Girl” lol That’s hilarious.
Anyway, ya, get your girl off. Give her good sex. It’s not hard, I’m not some high-energy crazy sex-machine that can rail away for hours. Watch Squirting 101, read Sex God Method, read My Secret Garden and its’ sequel, read some chick erotica like 50 Shades of Grey, watch some lesbian porn, watch some fucked up hardcore domination porn…You should be making her orgasm like 3-6 times when you hook up (unless she’s the type where her body gets too sensitive to touch after she cums, and even then you can chill and cuddle and have her get you off for a while and then probably give her a 2nd orgasm once her body settles a bit).
I’ve had girls give their girlfriends’ my number or bring them out to party just because they’re like “you need to have sex with this guy”. A fuckbuddy from back home txted me a few weeks ago that her friend is passing thru my city and she told her about our bedroom shit and she wants to hook up…she doesn’t even KNOW me, but it’s because I don’t half-ass the bedroom shit and I don’t subscribe to the whole retarded “she’ll be happy if I’m happy, who cares if she gets off” notion that some guys have (especially in the Manosphere, where it’s “cool” to be super aloof and not give a shit about girls or actively hate them instead of WANTING to give them some pleasure).
The biggest key to being good in bed is actually LIKING women lol
@Underdog: yep. You got it. The Manosphere cavemen just lit fire for the first time.
A LOT of game concepts (frame control, passing shit-tests, being unreactive, peacocking, qualifying the girl, busting on her, leading the interaction, escalating, etc) stem from that idea, that an alpha is a man who follows his own path and doesn’t allow anything to deter him. Naturals will fuck 5s because they don’t care that you don’t think she’s hot. A PUA will avoid monogamy and frame an open relationship because he doesn’t care if society doesn’t approve of it. Hell, a man can be monogamous and get married and still be alpha IF those are things he ACTUALLY wants.
The problem is most men these days don’t know what they want, so they just ping-pong off their environment like a pinball machine, reacting to everything and bein wishy-washy. They get married “because…umm I dunno…(shrug)”. A man who said “I’m marrying this woman because Such and Such and if you have a problem with it you can suck my nuts.” is alpha. He knows what he wants, what his code is, what his values are, and he doesn’t stray from them.
In dating women, men who’ve only been with one or two girls barely know what they really want in a partner. Once you’ve been with a bunch of them you start to see “alright this is what I like in a woman, and this is what I don’t like.” and you can screen for more suitable women than the AFC who’s marrying his high school GF just because everyone tells him to.
An alpha is simply a man who truly knows what he wants, and is unapologetic about trying to achieve it. One of the early PUA affirmations involved the line “I make no apologies for my desires as a man.” That’s an alpha, it has nothing to do with height, muscles, money, whether you wash the dishes or not, etc. it alllll comes back to “is the action you’re performing right now an action that you WANT to do or are you unsure of what you want, unable to make a decision to take action, or looking to others to tell you what you should want?” This is why, when you’re advanced, you can buy a girl a drink or compliment her…it’s coming from a different place than when you were an AFC.
Welcome to having fire, knew you guys would get here eventually lol
“If you have sex on the 1st date or a same-night-lay, in all likelihood she’s really hot for, and into, fucking you based on physical criteria alone.”
I heart you but I disagree with this. The problem is most guys don’t realize just how much you can DO on a 1st date if you’re efficient.
Think of it like this: there are, say, 5 switches (totally just making this up for analogy sake) you have to flip for the girl to picture you as a long-term potential. 99% of guys will walk into the room and flip switch 1, then walk around the room for a bit and flip switch 2, then take a nap and eat a sandwich and walk in circles for a bit and flip switch 3…then they go on another date where she’s forgotten he flipped switch 3 so he starts back over at flipping switch 3. Then he meanders around and eventually accidentally bumps into switch 4. He thinks he’s done because he doesn’t even realize there’s a 5th switch. So she doesn’t quite put out yet. The next date they go on she’s hoping he’ll flip the 5 th switch he’s oblivious to but he’s a little clueless and she likes him because of the last 4 switches so she says fuck it and helps him along and guides him to the 5th switch. Now they fuck.
What a really solid/advanced PUA does is just walk along that wall of switches and go “flick, flick, flick, flick, flick.” on date 1.
To relate it to standard game for the guys new to this, it’s like how you know a girl wants to see that you’re a desirable guy. So you know that another girl (like an ex) hitting on you in front of your date is going to flip that trigger. Now you can take your date out somewhere random and cross your fingers that maybe something will happen to show your date that you’re desirable. And it might happen if the universe aligns right, or it might happen on the 3rd date, or it might not happen.
Now what if you strategically made sure to take your date to a place where you knew your flirty ex was going to be that night?
Another example: you know that your date wants comfort and to feel like she really knows you and has spent a lot of time with you. So you take her on a 5 hour date at a restaraunt. It’s great, except that by hour 1 the environment becomes familiar and she only has reference experiences in her head of being in one scenario with you. Now what if you take the PUA concept of leading and venue changing? So in one date you go to 5 different places, where each new environment you enter with her she gains another reference experience of being safe and bonding with you against the environment (we call this creating an Us VS Them bubble/frame). Now she’s still only been on one date but psychologically she FEELS like she’s been on 5 dates with you.
Or take social proof. You know she wants to make sure you’re a good solid guy who everyone likes and isn’t some creepy shadow weirdo or evil player who will manipulate her (lol). You could take her out on a date to some random place and hope you run into some friends you know who will verify that you’re a good guy. Maybe that could happen by date 3 if you’re just wandering around taking her to a museum and theatre and shit.
But what if you intentionally started the date at a cute little cafe near your place where the staff all know you by name and love you?
Basically most guys, even players and PUAs who haven’t read the old PUA literature, go on extremely inefficient dates. That’s why for those guys, ya, her banging them on day 1 probably means she just liked their looks, because they have shitty game and haven’t flipped all the other triggers. But when you get advanced that guideline no longer applies.
Not a lot of emphasis is put on the “Day 2″ (aka the first date) these days because 1) everyone wants to chase the Same Night Lay these days and 2) we already solved Day 2′s as a community, there’s tons of PUA literature on how to build a solid Day 2 plan out there so there’s not much ground left to cover.
My “dates” are designed very specifically to flip the right attraction switches as quickly and efficiently as possible. Her sleeping with me on date 1 is based on as much non-physical criteria as her sleeping with a normal guy on date 3. That’s solid game.