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Disappearing Act Game As A Tool To Attract Women

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Will
on February 19, 2014 at 12:14 am
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This is kinda off topic and a bit random…but I’m beginning to think that girls 8 and above have higher numbers than most guys, except guys with 30+. I just keep hearing about hot girls that I know and the guys they’ve had sex with (a lot of them…). Also, CH can you clarify what the difference between a guy chasing a girl is vs a girl chasing a guy. It seems to be done differently but I’m wondering if there’s any trends. For instance, I notice most girls will be more indirect. Guy will say hi let’s hang, vs girl will hint that she’s thinking about you (is this hint equivalent to her chasing??…). But when the girl hints this it can also be interpreted as beta bait…so if you’re always biting on the beta bait then you’ll lose the girl? but then you’ll lose her anyway if you don’t make a move….This isn’t exactly on topic with this post, but you should clarify the difference between beta bait, making the move, and keeping a girl for good.


  • YaReally
    on February 19, 2014 at 1:20 am
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    They have higher numbers than they know most guys want to hear, so they literally convince themselves that a bunch of those “don’t count” (to the point where they could pass a lie detector test), or consciously lie to the guy about their count esp if he seems like he’d judge her for it. Show that you’re non-judgemental and they’ll tell you about all sorts of fucked up shit that would blow most guys circuits apart lol

    Do you really think a hot girl is having any less sex than you’d have if YOU had 30 chicks a day begging you for sex and wining and dining you and buying you shit for the chance to touch your dick to where you can literally send out a txt from your bedroom or put on a nice shirt and get laid with no effort?

    Their prob is they generally want high value guys (hypergamy) not just random notches, so most of the really hot ones are banging ex-BFs and long-term FBs who they’ve already determined are sexworthy to them. They’d LIKE to meet a new guy who can handle them but that’s rare and more common is they meet guys who treat them sexual and who’s hands shake as they take off her bra, so they go back to their ex who was kind of an abusive dick but man did he know how to choke-fuck them till they cry, the way they love and wish that random new guy had the experience with hot girls to do. They’d RATHER bang him but he’s too rare to wait for and in the meantime a girl’s got needs.


    • bob
      on February 19, 2014 at 9:28 am
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      “Do you really think a hot girl is having any less sex than you’d have if YOU had 30 chicks a day begging you for sex and wining and dining you and buying you shit for the chance to touch your dick to where you can literally send out a txt from your bedroom or put on a nice shirt and get laid with no effort?”

      Women know that their value decreases with each notch. With great power comes great responsibility, it’s as simple as that. And personally, it’s precisely because I respect women that I hold them accountable for their notch count.


      • Scray
        on February 19, 2014 at 11:46 am
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        Nah, what happens to most guys is that a higher notch count fucks with their minds. You view yourself as in competition with her ex’s. Imagine how you’d behave if you just somehow knew you were the greatest man she’d ever known — would you give two shits about what she did with anyone else?

        It’s just fear, man.


    • Amy
      on February 19, 2014 at 11:19 am
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      “Do you really think a hot girl is having any less sex than you’d have if YOU had 30 chicks a day begging you for sex and wining and dining you and buying you shit for the chance to touch your dick to where you can literally send out a txt from your bedroom or put on a nice shirt and get laid with no effort?”

      Ummmmm yes she is. Are you serious? Whatever SMV number I am, I could have sex every day with a different attractive man with minimal to no effort. And of course I don’t. Do you really think I have the same number of sexual partners as you do? Do you know ANY woman who has the same number of sexual partners as you do?

      Personally, I think less attractive women are more likely to have high numbers. They’re more likely to trade sex for temporary alpha attention.


      • YaReally
        on February 19, 2014 at 3:10 pm
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        I didn’t say they have a lot of sexual partners, I said they have sex.

        Let’s compare how many times you’ve had sex, foreplay, kissing, oral, etc (including with the same person, not just new partners, so one partner you bang every day for a year counts as sex 365 times that year) between age 18-28 with the average beta AFC.


        • Amy
          on February 19, 2014 at 3:32 pm
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          The original question was whether hot girls have higher notch counts than less attractive ones. Notch count is number of sex partners, not number of times a person has had sex.

          If you’re suggesting hot women have more sexual experience, you might be on to something. The higher status the man is, the more sexual experience he tends to have, so a girl dating this type may end up with a more varied sexual experience herself.


          • Scray
            on February 19, 2014 at 9:11 pm
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            Higher than we think?

            Well, the median reported sex partners of females is 3.2. So ya, I’d be willing to bet that it’s higher than that report.

            However, looking at female dual mate strategy leads to the reasonable guess that hotter girls keep their notch counts — on average — reasonably low. It’s easier for hotter girls to secure commitment, and the men who hotter girls would short-term fuck (way higher value) are increasingly rare the hotter the girl. Whereas there are plenty of males worth a short-term fuck/NSA around average girls….i.e. female 5 hooking up with male 7. However, a female 7 will only enter into that arrangement with a male 9 — very rare.

            Seems reasonable. I don’t know the science or anything.



Disappearing Act Game As A Tool To Attract Women

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Will
on February 19, 2014 at 12:14 am
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This is kinda off topic and a bit random…but I’m beginning to think that girls 8 and above have higher numbers than most guys, except guys with 30+. I just keep hearing about hot girls that I know and the guys they’ve had sex with (a lot of them…). Also, CH can you clarify what the difference between a guy chasing a girl is vs a girl chasing a guy. It seems to be done differently but I’m wondering if there’s any trends. For instance, I notice most girls will be more indirect. Guy will say hi let’s hang, vs girl will hint that she’s thinking about you (is this hint equivalent to her chasing??…). But when the girl hints this it can also be interpreted as beta bait…so if you’re always biting on the beta bait then you’ll lose the girl? but then you’ll lose her anyway if you don’t make a move….This isn’t exactly on topic with this post, but you should clarify the difference between beta bait, making the move, and keeping a girl for good.


  • YaReally
    on February 19, 2014 at 1:20 am
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    They have higher numbers than they know most guys want to hear, so they literally convince themselves that a bunch of those “don’t count” (to the point where they could pass a lie detector test), or consciously lie to the guy about their count esp if he seems like he’d judge her for it. Show that you’re non-judgemental and they’ll tell you about all sorts of fucked up shit that would blow most guys circuits apart lol

    Do you really think a hot girl is having any less sex than you’d have if YOU had 30 chicks a day begging you for sex and wining and dining you and buying you shit for the chance to touch your dick to where you can literally send out a txt from your bedroom or put on a nice shirt and get laid with no effort?

    Their prob is they generally want high value guys (hypergamy) not just random notches, so most of the really hot ones are banging ex-BFs and long-term FBs who they’ve already determined are sexworthy to them. They’d LIKE to meet a new guy who can handle them but that’s rare and more common is they meet guys who treat them sexual and who’s hands shake as they take off her bra, so they go back to their ex who was kind of an abusive dick but man did he know how to choke-fuck them till they cry, the way they love and wish that random new guy had the experience with hot girls to do. They’d RATHER bang him but he’s too rare to wait for and in the meantime a girl’s got needs.


    • Scray
      on February 19, 2014 at 11:46 am
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      Nah, what happens to most guys is that a higher notch count fucks with their minds. You view yourself as in competition with her ex’s. Imagine how you’d behave if you just somehow knew you were the greatest man she’d ever known — would you give two shits about what she did with anyone else?

      It’s just fear, man.



Comment Of The Week: Romancing The Load

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blotter
on February 16, 2014 at 1:35 am
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no relevance to the blog post. but i feel like sharing shit.

I posted a few months ago gushing thanks or YaReally (and by extension, CH, rational male, etc) for the red pill enlightenment. Im a gamma male but I swore I was going to start working everyday to improve. I wasnt cold opening yet but I was trying to run game on all the girls I work with. I got a cute 18 yr old to go on a day date with me before work (only way i could do anything with her) and got a kiss, controlled the frame perfectly up until that, then i got bad oneitis and i think i failed some really obvious shit tests. had a lot of drama that lowered my value at work a bit, realized why they say not to shit where you eat, but i recovered. i have a really strong frame at work somehow, i socialy dominate everyone there. i just suck eerywhere else.

so anyway i finally went out tonight and committed to cold opening. and i did it. i stilll stood at the bar and drank a lot with a buddy, but im also cool with the bartenders, one of my friends tends bar there, so i have some social proof, and i opened every girl that came near me lol. not quite the same as APPROACHING per se, but it works. i try to get girls to buy me drinks, mock and say how dare you when they refuse, then get names, redirect the convo and go from there. i met a girl that was telling me all kinds of personal shit, big dish bowl eyes, like 3 or 4 dudes were orbiting around us while i had that bubble effect going, some dude appeared and tried to amog me and she introduced him as her “best friend” and i punked him and kept our convo going, then i lost it when my buddy distracted me to get another round.

so i felt really great from that, it fizzled out but my mindset was right, taking the positive elements from that. the upstairs bar closed so i went down, moved up to the bar next to some blonde, i tried to open her but she blatantly ignored me, really rudely. so i stood at the bar just saying shit in the air like “i know im producing soundwaves that make air that effect ear buds, and im right next to you, so i know you heard me say hi” etc, over and over, and she finally turns to me and gets very hostile, saying leave me alone, etc. 2-3 big muscular dudes swarm me to defend her, and im into bjj/mma so one of my problems is that i ALWAYS get into near fights with guys, cuz i never back down, and instead of that “no fight is going to happen” frame yareally talks about, i just have a “yes, let us please fight” frame cuz i know i can smash bitches lol. so anyway they overwhelm me with social pressure and i finally leave the bar.

i dunno what im posting this for. give me a pat on the back? i just feel really good for finally opening shit, and im learning to not give a fuck. im actually starting to get ADDICTED to that social pressure of making awkward situations. its fucking fun lol


  • YaReally
    on February 17, 2014 at 11:38 am
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    Solid. Massive props for turning your life around and getting onto a better path. Keep approaching, but also feel free to do what you did and chill with your bartender buddy and flirt with girls that come up for drinks…that’s totally valid, and right now you want to collect as many “talking to girls I don’t know isn’t a big deal and won’t result in the world ending” reference experiences as possible, any way you can get them. A lot of cold approach game is just for hobbyists who want to show off or push themselves…you could get laid perfectly fine just running game on girls that come up for a drink beside you. When I’m out solo and having an off night where I’m just out of it, I’ll usually sit/stand at the bar and chat with the bartender and do what you did, just cheersing and joking around with anyone who comes into my little sphere lol I joke to the bartender “sorry, I’m gonna scare off all the girls that come up here lol” and just tip decent if I don’t know the barteder personally, since I’m taking up space that paying customers could use.

    Ditch the fighting mentality. That chick won’t suck your dick even if you kicked all those guys’ asses. At best you win and get banned from the bar and lose access to a venue that could help you improve your sex life for the rest of your life and risk some kind of legal charges that fuck you over and add stress to your life. One of my best buds is an amateur MMA fighter and he used to scrap at bars all the time cause he likes it, but now he looks at it like those guys aren’t worth his time…of COURSE he can kick their asses, they’re just dipshit bar dudes. He fights REAL fighters in the ring that are a challenge instead of wasting his skills on some bar shits lol and he’s right, those guys aren’t worth your time. You should be embarrassed to give them that much importance that your even waste a swing on them lol. They’re like children, you don’t have to defend your honor and not back down from a 5yo calling you a poopy-head.

    But hey, you’re an adult you can do what you want. Consider that there’s going to be a time in your life where you can’t just spring into your BJJ (maybe you’re too old, maybe there’s too many guys, maybe you have your future wife and children with you, etc) and being able to calm a situation down and befriend the other guys or at least walk away without a conflict, could be a useful skillset to have experience with.

    Just don’t get into a fight around me (metaphorically), because I will have the bouncers throw them AND you out, because the bouncers like me, their job is to keep the enviro safe for the customers, and neither of us wants you guys and your dick-swinging competition to ruin other people’s night.

    aka GTFO of my club, you guys can suck eachother’s dicks in the parking lot outside while the girls and I have fun inside lol

    Anyway, that said, like I say massive props for taking action. Keep it up and your life 5 years from now will be something you never could’ve dreamed of a year ago.


    • Matthew King
      on February 17, 2014 at 11:52 am
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      Ditch the fighting mentality. That chick won’t suck your dick even if you kicked all those guys’ asses.

      Negative. Strive for more than fellatio in your life. That chick and a hundred more will suck your dick on the way to greater things, things which you have experienced and your online insta-adviser has not: the ability to dominate men as well as women — or dominating men as a means to dominating women with little added effort. These matters are not in the realm of his experience, so he has no time for anything but the hard-sell.

      Zen master: when you focus too hard on catching the ball, you drop the ball. If your ultimate goal is to get your dick sucked, you will transmit your neediness in every expression and in every gesture. Focus on striding perfectly under the thrown ball and cradle-catching it rather than diving and clenching and clutching. Let the beej come to you.


      • YaReally
        on February 17, 2014 at 12:21 pm
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        Bla bla bla, keep reading those comic books for your lessons on manhood lol


        • Matthew King
          on February 17, 2014 at 2:16 pm
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          Spoken like a feminist, who thinks honor belongs to the realm of comic books. You teach hard-up men to be pussies — or even gay — to get pussy. Your victims shouldn’t have to suffer through your one-size-fits-all, short-man theory of retreat before they realize there doesn’t have to be a trade-off.

          You should be asking him how many nights he spent in jail, how many bars he’s been kicked out of, how many felonies are on his record. You are clearly out of your depth, and rather than citing phantom “friends” who happen to always comport with your rigid policies (If you don’t eliminate the urge to fight, you will have to suck cock in the parking lot!!!), try admitting your ignorance and a willingness to learn from others up-front, especially from students who come from different places than you do.

          As a bonus, you will then be able to dispense with the LOLs and “hey I’m just a chill easygoing dude” tryhardery in these spaces, which you use to compensate for your ideological rigor mortis.

          Quick, who wrote this just three days ago?

          13. Teach him to throw a punch, and take a punch. If Dad can’t do it, find a male relative who can. …

          15. Teach him to hunt, not just animals, but also humans. This is the darkest of my advice, but it’s invaluable. He should know what it feels like to be aggressive, to initiate conflict. …

          I advised your victim to parlay a skill he already has into the development of a skill he doesn’t. You, as usual, repeated the same cookie-cutter dogmatic advice to avoid conflict because escalating with men doesn’t work for undersized clowns like you, and therefore you can’t imagine how it can work for anyone. You are an anecdotalist, not a teacher. Your method is to encourage desperately seeking betas to become you rather than figuring out a way they can play to their strengths.

          So you see every incident with a potential for violence as the inevitability of a felony, cops coming, getting thrown out. Whereas these situations are more often defused by showing one’s readiness to fight rather than trying to worm out of it with faggotty verbal theatrics. Not every signal of the ability to defend oneself proceeds from hotheadedness.

          Your advice-by-anecdotes is a centimeter thick, and no matter how many you accumulate, you still draw the wrong lessons from them. “Never fight!!!” says the divorced mommy to her precious little boy, and the adult, still a half-pint, remembers.


          • Scray
            on February 18, 2014 at 2:47 pm
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            ‘Typically, my first response will be to pull you aside and politely ask you to leave. If you insist on over-staying your welcome, then I will resort to tactics that lend themselves to my advantages.’

            Yeah, sure. When a guy approaches the group and gets everyone laughing and brings value to the group, this is how you’d respond. Bull. Fucking. Shit.

            Your problem is that you’re imagining some low-value dude approach the group.

            A) Imagine that the guy comes from a group standing right next to yours filled with people who are awesome and having more fun than anyone else at the venue

            B) Imagine that the dude knows the staff in the venue and seems on very friendly terms with them, to the point where maybe he can get you guys a free drink or something like that

            C) Imagine that one of the women gets interested in the man who approaches and asks him questions and is very nice.

            You. Wouldn’t. Do. Shit.

            I admit that last year, around May-June when I was first getting in the swing of this, guys like you did this to me. Why? Because I didn’t bring enough value. Now that I usually meet conditions A) and B) where I’m at…at least A), what happens is that at least one or two of your male friends will like me.

            And my external game is getting pretty solid….to where I get to social hookpoint with the girls in the group quick, so C) will be happening even in venues where A) and B) don’t. I’ve been in a lot of sets where the guy — like you — tries to pull this enforcer crap only to have the girl roll her eyes and be like ‘OMG what are you doing, stop being a creep to this guy,’ so that she can continue to talk to me.



Comment Of The Week: Romancing The Load

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blotter
on February 16, 2014 at 1:35 am
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no relevance to the blog post. but i feel like sharing shit.

I posted a few months ago gushing thanks or YaReally (and by extension, CH, rational male, etc) for the red pill enlightenment. Im a gamma male but I swore I was going to start working everyday to improve. I wasnt cold opening yet but I was trying to run game on all the girls I work with. I got a cute 18 yr old to go on a day date with me before work (only way i could do anything with her) and got a kiss, controlled the frame perfectly up until that, then i got bad oneitis and i think i failed some really obvious shit tests. had a lot of drama that lowered my value at work a bit, realized why they say not to shit where you eat, but i recovered. i have a really strong frame at work somehow, i socialy dominate everyone there. i just suck eerywhere else.

so anyway i finally went out tonight and committed to cold opening. and i did it. i stilll stood at the bar and drank a lot with a buddy, but im also cool with the bartenders, one of my friends tends bar there, so i have some social proof, and i opened every girl that came near me lol. not quite the same as APPROACHING per se, but it works. i try to get girls to buy me drinks, mock and say how dare you when they refuse, then get names, redirect the convo and go from there. i met a girl that was telling me all kinds of personal shit, big dish bowl eyes, like 3 or 4 dudes were orbiting around us while i had that bubble effect going, some dude appeared and tried to amog me and she introduced him as her “best friend” and i punked him and kept our convo going, then i lost it when my buddy distracted me to get another round.

so i felt really great from that, it fizzled out but my mindset was right, taking the positive elements from that. the upstairs bar closed so i went down, moved up to the bar next to some blonde, i tried to open her but she blatantly ignored me, really rudely. so i stood at the bar just saying shit in the air like “i know im producing soundwaves that make air that effect ear buds, and im right next to you, so i know you heard me say hi” etc, over and over, and she finally turns to me and gets very hostile, saying leave me alone, etc. 2-3 big muscular dudes swarm me to defend her, and im into bjj/mma so one of my problems is that i ALWAYS get into near fights with guys, cuz i never back down, and instead of that “no fight is going to happen” frame yareally talks about, i just have a “yes, let us please fight” frame cuz i know i can smash bitches lol. so anyway they overwhelm me with social pressure and i finally leave the bar.

i dunno what im posting this for. give me a pat on the back? i just feel really good for finally opening shit, and im learning to not give a fuck. im actually starting to get ADDICTED to that social pressure of making awkward situations. its fucking fun lol


  • YaReally
    on February 17, 2014 at 11:38 am
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    Solid. Massive props for turning your life around and getting onto a better path. Keep approaching, but also feel free to do what you did and chill with your bartender buddy and flirt with girls that come up for drinks…that’s totally valid, and right now you want to collect as many “talking to girls I don’t know isn’t a big deal and won’t result in the world ending” reference experiences as possible, any way you can get them. A lot of cold approach game is just for hobbyists who want to show off or push themselves…you could get laid perfectly fine just running game on girls that come up for a drink beside you. When I’m out solo and having an off night where I’m just out of it, I’ll usually sit/stand at the bar and chat with the bartender and do what you did, just cheersing and joking around with anyone who comes into my little sphere lol I joke to the bartender “sorry, I’m gonna scare off all the girls that come up here lol” and just tip decent if I don’t know the barteder personally, since I’m taking up space that paying customers could use.

    Ditch the fighting mentality. That chick won’t suck your dick even if you kicked all those guys’ asses. At best you win and get banned from the bar and lose access to a venue that could help you improve your sex life for the rest of your life and risk some kind of legal charges that fuck you over and add stress to your life. One of my best buds is an amateur MMA fighter and he used to scrap at bars all the time cause he likes it, but now he looks at it like those guys aren’t worth his time…of COURSE he can kick their asses, they’re just dipshit bar dudes. He fights REAL fighters in the ring that are a challenge instead of wasting his skills on some bar shits lol and he’s right, those guys aren’t worth your time. You should be embarrassed to give them that much importance that your even waste a swing on them lol. They’re like children, you don’t have to defend your honor and not back down from a 5yo calling you a poopy-head.

    But hey, you’re an adult you can do what you want. Consider that there’s going to be a time in your life where you can’t just spring into your BJJ (maybe you’re too old, maybe there’s too many guys, maybe you have your future wife and children with you, etc) and being able to calm a situation down and befriend the other guys or at least walk away without a conflict, could be a useful skillset to have experience with.

    Just don’t get into a fight around me (metaphorically), because I will have the bouncers throw them AND you out, because the bouncers like me, their job is to keep the enviro safe for the customers, and neither of us wants you guys and your dick-swinging competition to ruin other people’s night.

    aka GTFO of my club, you guys can suck eachother’s dicks in the parking lot outside while the girls and I have fun inside lol

    Anyway, that said, like I say massive props for taking action. Keep it up and your life 5 years from now will be something you never could’ve dreamed of a year ago.


    • Scray
      on February 18, 2014 at 2:47 pm
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      ‘Typically, my first response will be to pull you aside and politely ask you to leave. If you insist on over-staying your welcome, then I will resort to tactics that lend themselves to my advantages.’

      Yeah, sure. When a guy approaches the group and gets everyone laughing and brings value to the group, this is how you’d respond. Bull. Fucking. Shit.

      Your problem is that you’re imagining some low-value dude approach the group.

      A) Imagine that the guy comes from a group standing right next to yours filled with people who are awesome and having more fun than anyone else at the venue

      B) Imagine that the dude knows the staff in the venue and seems on very friendly terms with them, to the point where maybe he can get you guys a free drink or something like that

      C) Imagine that one of the women gets interested in the man who approaches and asks him questions and is very nice.

      You. Wouldn’t. Do. Shit.

      I admit that last year, around May-June when I was first getting in the swing of this, guys like you did this to me. Why? Because I didn’t bring enough value. Now that I usually meet conditions A) and B) where I’m at…at least A), what happens is that at least one or two of your male friends will like me.

      And my external game is getting pretty solid….to where I get to social hookpoint with the girls in the group quick, so C) will be happening even in venues where A) and B) don’t. I’ve been in a lot of sets where the guy — like you — tries to pull this enforcer crap only to have the girl roll her eyes and be like ‘OMG what are you doing, stop being a creep to this guy,’ so that she can continue to talk to me.



Sex Differences In Seduction Behaviors

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J.Belfort
on February 10, 2014 at 3:35 pm
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The guy in the following vid gets a lot of shit from commentators over his height and most chicks give him the cold shoulder upon approach (in his other vids).

But he’s relentless and assumes the sale every time. I recommend all should watch.

[youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuYQI2wJV-k?rel=0&w=560&h=315%5D


  • YaReally
    on February 10, 2014 at 5:49 pm
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    Cupid Shmupid is a fucking boss.

    Any short dude esp should be paying attention to this guy’s body language (rock solid, never chases, never leans in, never tilts his head up like a child looking for approval he’s always got his had level etc), logistical handling (stands on tall things, makes the girls sit so he can look them in the eye, pulls their head down to make out etc), vocal tonality (lots of breaking rapport, commands and statements more than questions and when he asks questions they’re asked in breaking rapport), handling shit-tests and AMOGs smoothly (never gets flustered at height comments/disqualifying from girls or guys trying to tool him), etc.

    This guy is like a master-class in how to demonstrate the value tall guys are naturally assumed to have, in a 5 foot tall body. He’s what I’m talking about when I say you can show dominance leadership tonality etc to make up for physical shortcomings. And he’s not even THAT refined yet. Like, he’s running about the equivalent game that a new guy to PUA runs in his 3rd-5th year…lots of attraction and better game than a lot of guys, but still not rock solid quite yet.

    Dude will be an absolute beast one day. And anti-gamers and guys who didn’t put in the effort he’s put in will say “oh those are just paid actresses” and “well he’s popular on YouTube so it’s just cause he’s a minor celebrity that he gets girls” etc lol

    For more fun here’s a guy picking up in a fat suit:

    And Cupid Schmupid’s appearance on their channel:


    • darkhorse
      on February 11, 2014 at 12:00 pm
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      I went out to a club last weekend and there was a short guy with a hot girl. I walked right between them and started hitting on his girl. “I’d love to get you pregnant, my name’s Darkhorse, what’s yours?” She was receptive and the guy had a fit lol. Totally lost his composure.


      • newly aloof
        on February 11, 2014 at 12:25 pm
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        Haha! As a shorter guy, years ago I would have either been butt hurt or tried to choke you out. But after the red pill, if she’s receptive to you that means either my game isn’t tight enough, or that girl isn’t worth my time after that instant and I’d immediately look for other girls in the club (not in a butt hurt way, but in an “alas, such is the randomness of life” kind of way).


        • Scray
          on February 11, 2014 at 5:16 pm
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          Ya. Only real solution if she’s receptive.



Sex Differences In Seduction Behaviors

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J.Belfort
on February 10, 2014 at 3:35 pm
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The guy in the following vid gets a lot of shit from commentators over his height and most chicks give him the cold shoulder upon approach (in his other vids).

But he’s relentless and assumes the sale every time. I recommend all should watch.


  • YaReally
    on February 10, 2014 at 5:49 pm
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    Cupid Shmupid is a fucking boss.

    Any short dude esp should be paying attention to this guy’s body language (rock solid, never chases, never leans in, never tilts his head up like a child looking for approval he’s always got his had level etc), logistical handling (stands on tall things, makes the girls sit so he can look them in the eye, pulls their head down to make out etc), vocal tonality (lots of breaking rapport, commands and statements more than questions and when he asks questions they’re asked in breaking rapport), handling shit-tests and AMOGs smoothly (never gets flustered at height comments/disqualifying from girls or guys trying to tool him), etc.

    This guy is like a master-class in how to demonstrate the value tall guys are naturally assumed to have, in a 5 foot tall body. He’s what I’m talking about when I say you can show dominance leadership tonality etc to make up for physical shortcomings. And he’s not even THAT refined yet. Like, he’s running about the equivalent game that a new guy to PUA runs in his 3rd-5th year…lots of attraction and better game than a lot of guys, but still not rock solid quite yet.

    Dude will be an absolute beast one day. And anti-gamers and guys who didn’t put in the effort he’s put in will say “oh those are just paid actresses” and “well he’s popular on YouTube so it’s just cause he’s a minor celebrity that he gets girls” etc lol

    For more fun here’s a guy picking up in a fat suit:

    And Cupid Schmupid’s appearance on their channel:


    • Scray
      on February 11, 2014 at 5:16 pm
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      Ya. Only real solution if she’s receptive.



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A big problem in today’s cultural climate is people wanting to skirt the rules because they don’t have the capital to win at the game. Inherently every person knows what attracts the other sex but the problem arises when they fall for the siren’s song in promises for a new social utopia where biology doesn’t exist and we can rewrite human nature to follow a lazier and more happy path.

Now many women have fallen into the trap that my pussy is enough. I don’t have to work on my figure, it’s good enough because men are horny. I don’t have to work on grace, access to vag all that matters. They use youth to mask a very shaky foundation. Then they go full potato and their ideology goes to their heads and manifests in unaesthetic skrillex hair and piercing because they have become full on believers. It’s simply a long version of not wanting to play the game since it’s hard and they might lose. It’s defeatism in the age of carb fueled obesity and cultural expectations of androgyny.

Men follow their own version of the piper in ignoring the signs and think just being around and providing is the ticket to smashing. Seduction is work. Your ego gets crushed, you have to put up with endless amounts of BS from guys and girls until you get experienced. It’s much easier to escape to being your own personal Michael Cera then lace up your gloves and fight it out.

TD:LR: People know the core rules of the game, they simply deny it in hope that’s it not true.


  • Scray
    on February 10, 2014 at 5:14 pm
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    To be honest, I think it’s about discovering what kind of shit you will and will not tolerate. You can build your life however you see fit. If people in your group treat you like shit, ditch them. Only keep people in your life who add value to your experience on this planet.

    That’s probably the biggest problem people have, I think. We all struggle — -or at least I do — with scarcity and abundance. But, whenever I internalize an abundance mindset, that area of my life improves. Now, the problem of course is that you move on to better things and that scarcity returns….but it’s just a continuous cycle.

    So many guys tolerate so much bullshit in their lives and in their relationships because they don’t know any better. They watch bullshit TV shows where the man gets henpecked by the bitchy, not-that-hot wife and think “Oh that’s just life.” They hear a lot of ‘you go grrl’ and ‘man up!’ nonsense and think “oh, that’s just how it is.” People don’t make it worse with their “relationships are tough,” “relationships are about compromise,” etc. bullshit.

    Your life is as tough or difficult as you make it…in every sector.

    Treat as though they can be replaced and you’ll become irreplaceable to them. The core of game, I think.


    • YaReally
      on February 10, 2014 at 6:31 pm
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      @Scray
      Man I love when you write shit like this. I give you shit when you go on negative tangents with your game skills, but it makes me happy/proud to see you figure a lot of inner shit like this out. A lot of men and women will go their entire lives without ever understanding the stuff you wrote here, and that’s a tragedy to me. Good stuff dude.


      • Scray
        on February 11, 2014 at 12:00 am
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        I only say it because, shit man, it’s the only thing that works. Every time I’ve started behaving like a faggot, what gets me back to acting tight is just….getting out there and talking to more high quality girls.

        That’s why I think marriage is insanity. Fucking insanity.


    • walawala
      on February 10, 2014 at 9:24 pm
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      @scray Despite success, the “fear” of scarcity is what handicaps me. it requires a conscious effort on my part to say “WAIT” before suddenly succumbing to some girl’s pressure to meet at a certain time or respond a certain way.

      keyboard jockeys can say “bitches should respect the cocka” but in reality the social pressures you describe surround us.

      If you’re not behaving like the needy pedestalizing sap in 500 Days of Summer girls AND many guys will jump down your throat for not being a “gentleman”.

      I just pushed back on the latest girl i’m gaming who insisted on going out on Valentine’s Day.

      I had previous plans so made plans for another day which she was all whiny about.

      Finally I said: “valentine’s day is gay. we’re going to do something different”.

      But in this city—Valentine’s Day should be renamed “Beta Provider Chump Day” with every local girl getting huge bouquets of flowers—often anonymously—from their doting pedestalizing boyfriend—who usually ends up carrying the things.


      • YaReally
        on February 11, 2014 at 2:12 am
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        “it requires a conscious effort on my part to say “WAIT” before suddenly succumbing to some girl’s pressure to meet at a certain time or respond a certain way.”

        If it helps, I had to do that too. I’ve internalized it now but that was by consciously stopping and checking myself until “fake it till you make it” kicked in.

        I’ve done stuff like using “drunk dial” apps that block you from txting a number for X amount of hours, during the day just to avoid responding too fast (txt then lock their # for an hour or a day etc)

        I’ve set girl’s numbers to not make a tone and not vibrate when they txt so I legitimately accidentally miss their txts and avoid txting back immediately/predictably every time.

        I’ve gotten #s while out and left on a high note and ended a solid txt convo then given my friend the battery to my phone to keep from me till morning to avoid txting all night drunk and fucking things up.

        I’ve read a girl’s txts right before taking a shower so that I can’t reply until after I’m out of the shower, and I have a solid 10 min in the shower to think of a solid response.

        I STILL reword my txt messages a dozen times before sending them. If I don’t feel a txt is perfect, I’ll just sit on it for a bit and brainstorm other responses while I work until I hit something solid and even then I’ll play with the wording a bit as I’m typing it.

        I’ve changed girls names in my phone to stuff like “Z DO NOT TXT NOOOOOOOO” so their name is at the bottom of my list so I don’t see it as easily and so when they txt that name pops up and reminds me she’s on a Soft Next or whatever.

        In person it’s all trickier like dealing with betas and social shaming…but that stuff makes your frame stronger when you stand against it and don’t falter or apologize for your beliefs/desires as a man. And if you stand long enough, people accept the new you and lay off. And the ones who don’t, you cut out of your life because fuck them for not supporting you in something important to you and your happiness lol

        Now I don’t have to really do that stuff, but every guy transitioning from scarcity to abundance has trouble like you…you just have to find ways to outsmart yourself and keep holding your frame unapologetically ;)


        • Arbiter
          on February 11, 2014 at 8:24 am
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          I also have that urge to reply quickly to a girl. The way I do when friends contact me about something. I want to be efficient, so why not get the texting over with? But of course being too efficient in communication with women makes them think you are coming on too strong and must therefore be low value. It’s what we have to adapt to.

          It is counter-intuitive, because we are used to thinking that more input means more output. More study time means more things learned. More work means more money. More wood chopping means more chopped wood. Alas, with women it doesn’t work that way. Only when it comes to the amount of approaches, of course, but not with each woman separately.

          “Spin more plates” – it is really good advice. It helps you keep your head cold and not contact a girl too much, not sound too eager. The distance and perspective you get from working on different women at the same time is very valuable.


          • Scray
            on February 11, 2014 at 11:32 am
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            I don’t really follow this rule (except the spin more plates). The ‘who cares less’ thing is gay. Right out of the faggot playbook.

            [CH: The world's greatest heterosexual seducers all plied their conquests, on occasion, with variants of "aloof indifference" game.]



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A big problem in today’s cultural climate is people wanting to skirt the rules because they don’t have the capital to win at the game. Inherently every person knows what attracts the other sex but the problem arises when they fall for the siren’s song in promises for a new social utopia where biology doesn’t exist and we can rewrite human nature to follow a lazier and more happy path.

Now many women have fallen into the trap that my pussy is enough. I don’t have to work on my figure, it’s good enough because men are horny. I don’t have to work on grace, access to vag all that matters. They use youth to mask a very shaky foundation. Then they go full potato and their ideology goes to their heads and manifests in unaesthetic skrillex hair and piercing because they have become full on believers. It’s simply a long version of not wanting to play the game since it’s hard and they might lose. It’s defeatism in the age of carb fueled obesity and cultural expectations of androgyny.

Men follow their own version of the piper in ignoring the signs and think just being around and providing is the ticket to smashing. Seduction is work. Your ego gets crushed, you have to put up with endless amounts of BS from guys and girls until you get experienced. It’s much easier to escape to being your own personal Michael Cera then lace up your gloves and fight it out.

TD:LR: People know the core rules of the game, they simply deny it in hope that’s it not true.


  • Scray
    on February 10, 2014 at 5:14 pm
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    To be honest, I think it’s about discovering what kind of shit you will and will not tolerate. You can build your life however you see fit. If people in your group treat you like shit, ditch them. Only keep people in your life who add value to your experience on this planet.

    That’s probably the biggest problem people have, I think. We all struggle — -or at least I do — with scarcity and abundance. But, whenever I internalize an abundance mindset, that area of my life improves. Now, the problem of course is that you move on to better things and that scarcity returns….but it’s just a continuous cycle.

    So many guys tolerate so much bullshit in their lives and in their relationships because they don’t know any better. They watch bullshit TV shows where the man gets henpecked by the bitchy, not-that-hot wife and think “Oh that’s just life.” They hear a lot of ‘you go grrl’ and ‘man up!’ nonsense and think “oh, that’s just how it is.” People don’t make it worse with their “relationships are tough,” “relationships are about compromise,” etc. bullshit.

    Your life is as tough or difficult as you make it…in every sector.

    Treat as though they can be replaced and you’ll become irreplaceable to them. The core of game, I think.


    • YaReally
      on February 10, 2014 at 6:31 pm
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      @Scray
      Man I love when you write shit like this. I give you shit when you go on negative tangents with your game skills, but it makes me happy/proud to see you figure a lot of inner shit like this out. A lot of men and women will go their entire lives without ever understanding the stuff you wrote here, and that’s a tragedy to me. Good stuff dude.



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And people think the Bible is backwards when it talks about how acting like the opposite sex is almost always an abomination or something. Those fools, they don’t understand that it’s ancient wisdom. Humanity cannot be happy apart from nature, and it’s human nature for women to be men’s helpmate, not an equal.

On a side note, this blog and others like it have given me a near-perfectly tuned sense of relationship health. When my friend and his wife created a diaper changing schedule to ensure HE did his “fair share,” I knew things were doomed. In no time he found himself in the office of a divorce lawyer. When my other friend told his wife to make us a good dinner with a good desert afterwards, yes told her, not asked her, she did it (and it was good), and I knew they’d be a healthy couple. We were happy, she was happy, everyone was happy. Nature… don’t fight it, embrace it.


  • Scray
    on February 8, 2014 at 4:06 pm
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    Nah, you went too far….pretty common in the manosphere. Yes, men shouldn’t be women and vice versa…but I think they’re equal. Neither is better or worse, they just complement one another.


    • FamilyMan
      on February 8, 2014 at 11:40 pm
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      Scray, where is it ever necessary to assume men and women are equal? How does this doubtful idea ever solve a problem?


      • Scray
        on February 9, 2014 at 3:17 am
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        Assuming men and women are equal as the sum of their strengths and weaknesses helps to solve several problems. First of all, you want to avoid misogyny, which is just butthurt bitterness. Second of all, you stop assuming that game is an adversarial process to try and “conquer” someone else. It becomes an exercise in trying to suss out those natural complementary elements.


        • YaReally
          on February 9, 2014 at 1:18 pm
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          “It becomes an exercise in trying to suss out those natural complementary elements.”

          Agreed. The type of woman I would have settled with before I had any experience with women was a very different type than I would choose to settle with now. But over time as I’ve learned more about myself, I’ve learned which attributes in women compliment/balance mine and so I screen for those attributes. The most solid relationships I’ve seen have been the ones where both people know their role and happily embrace those roles regardless of what other people think.

          Why force a square peg into a round hole? There are literally billions of pegs out there, enjoy looking thru them till you find a round peg instead.



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Aquila
on February 8, 2014 at 1:12 pm
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And people think the Bible is backwards when it talks about how acting like the opposite sex is almost always an abomination or something. Those fools, they don’t understand that it’s ancient wisdom. Humanity cannot be happy apart from nature, and it’s human nature for women to be men’s helpmate, not an equal.

On a side note, this blog and others like it have given me a near-perfectly tuned sense of relationship health. When my friend and his wife created a diaper changing schedule to ensure HE did his “fair share,” I knew things were doomed. In no time he found himself in the office of a divorce lawyer. When my other friend told his wife to make us a good dinner with a good desert afterwards, yes told her, not asked her, she did it (and it was good), and I knew they’d be a healthy couple. We were happy, she was happy, everyone was happy. Nature… don’t fight it, embrace it.


  • Scray
    on February 8, 2014 at 4:06 pm
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    Nah, you went too far….pretty common in the manosphere. Yes, men shouldn’t be women and vice versa…but I think they’re equal. Neither is better or worse, they just complement one another.


    • YaReally
      on February 9, 2014 at 1:18 pm
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      “It becomes an exercise in trying to suss out those natural complementary elements.”

      Agreed. The type of woman I would have settled with before I had any experience with women was a very different type than I would choose to settle with now. But over time as I’ve learned more about myself, I’ve learned which attributes in women compliment/balance mine and so I screen for those attributes. The most solid relationships I’ve seen have been the ones where both people know their role and happily embrace those roles regardless of what other people think.

      Why force a square peg into a round hole? There are literally billions of pegs out there, enjoy looking thru them till you find a round peg instead.



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I’ve decided to just tell 8 the next time I see her about everything. Just like, totally come clean. I might even tell her I’m an aspiring PUA and my journey. I’ve been putting putting off seeing her by kinda lying and saying that I’m busy with work — lies beget more lies, for real.

I’m thinkin like……this coming Friday I’ll tell her.

The only reason I feel like I can’t go through with this is just because I’m afraid of this minor one-itis getting out of control. Lying to her about working a lot is just a sign that I feel the need to explain myself, i.e. a bad sign.



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I’ve decided to just tell 8 the next time I see her about everything. Just like, totally come clean. I might even tell her I’m an aspiring PUA and my journey. I’ve been putting putting off seeing her by kinda lying and saying that I’m busy with work — lies beget more lies, for real.

I’m thinkin like……this coming Friday I’ll tell her.

The only reason I feel like I can’t go through with this is just because I’m afraid of this minor one-itis getting out of control. Lying to her about working a lot is just a sign that I feel the need to explain myself, i.e. a bad sign.



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In regards to Scray’s comment, the only way you get pussy by acting beta is if you’re really good looking or dating girls with low SMV. I’m not sure how that got past the editor’s here at Le Chateau. Wouldn’t work for top tier girls.


  • Scray
    on February 1, 2014 at 4:10 pm
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    It’s cool, I can break it down. Beta guys don’t get pussy, but they do get a lot of face time with women = fact. Women who are hotter will fucking weed you out extremely fast, and doubly so in the context of cold approach. When you are pretty far out of your looks league….face time with a girl is your best friend. But you need to isolate her to get a fair shake. So ya, you play right into that initial ‘this is a guy who will buy me some drinks and I can use him for awhile and not give him much, if any, sex. why not go on a date or something.’

    Fine — who gives a shit.

    On the date, now that she’s alone without a) her friends to judge her b) distracting club bullshit and c) in an environment where (hopefully) you have high value, you can start pouring in the alpha. Bit by bit. Still pay for her drink or whatever. Give lip service to some beta shit, but increasingly sub in the alpha. Now she should start to think that this is great — you’re a guy who’s “kind of cute” or somewhat attractive, who also will be there with her. Suddenly, maybe you’re not so bad.

    Then the next time, you go more alpha — still pay lip service to beta shit — and then you’ll get the value/attraction you need to fuck her fairly soon.

    Maybe as a theory this will fail, but it’s worked pretty great this one time I’ve done it (fell into it, really).

    Yareally is right that this is like………snorting cocaine. It’s a short-term thing that really won’t help develop your inner game from where it is currently. So ya, it’s bad for you…but ya, I’m pretty sure it would work if I did it again. It also matches up with evo-psych.

    The social circle stuff would just be a bonus.

    It’s more subtle than just ‘act beta.’


    • FamilyMan
      on February 1, 2014 at 4:28 pm
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      Sounds totally fine to me, unobjectionable. Of course you act differently with people you just met than those you have gotten to know better. And that’s likely how the girl will see it, or you can just frame it that way if she ever questions the congruency.

      In life you are not actually any of the personalities you project. You are allowed to choose them and change them. “Be yourself” — which self?

      What’s YaReally’s issue with it — that you can’t keep comfort with this girl while being alpha on first meeting? Maybe that will come with experience, but that experience will come because of the face time YOU get with hot girls this way.


      • YaReally
        on February 1, 2014 at 5:58 pm
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        “What’s YaReally’s issue with it”

        His internals when he first proposed it were shit. “I’m gonna promise her commitment then fuck her over and lie to her friends that she’s a crazy bitch and make them fight hahaha revenge on women!!!!!”

        The way he’s described it here, I have no problems with.

        There are other issues that will come up tho:

        1) he won’t keep her because he hasn’t earned her internally and if she’s hot she’ll sniff that out. As a hot girl she’s designed to sniff out guys who can’t handle her long term. It’s like skipping to the final boss in a fighting game without knowing all the moves. Ya you for to the boss and you’ll win a few matches but you will probably get smoked eventually.

        2) he will get one-itis from spending so much time with her, esp if they aren’t fucking right away. That’s just how humans work. The longer it takes to bang her the more attached he’ll get. He’ll stop going out and obsess over her and then convince himself she’s better than other girls since his entire plan is based on “I can’t treat her like other girls, she’s DIFFERENT you guise”. This is really just mild one-itis combined with a lack of entitlement.

        3) who’s been playing the frame longer? The hot girl juggling beta orbiters and sucking resources out of them without putting out since she grew tits at 14 and has had a thousand orbiters chase her, or the guy who’s been alpha for about a year and is actively sabotaging that on purpose at the start of the relationship so he’s basically starting climbing the hill from a hole instead of level ground. Realistically who’s likely to fall I to who’s frame and get their way?

        4) “Fake it till you make it” works for beta behavior as well as alpha behavior.


        • darkhorse
          on February 2, 2014 at 2:05 am
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          You can’t cheat the game. It’s just lying to yourself. Ultimately you lose. Embracing that truth is the penultimate DHV.


          • Scray
            on February 2, 2014 at 12:54 pm
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            I disagree. You -can- cheat the game very effectively, if your goal is to score casual sex from hot girls. You can’t cheat developing further as a man.



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In regards to Scray’s comment, the only way you get pussy by acting beta is if you’re really good looking or dating girls with low SMV. I’m not sure how that got past the editor’s here at Le Chateau. Wouldn’t work for top tier girls.


  • Scray
    on February 1, 2014 at 4:10 pm
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    It’s cool, I can break it down. Beta guys don’t get pussy, but they do get a lot of face time with women = fact. Women who are hotter will fucking weed you out extremely fast, and doubly so in the context of cold approach. When you are pretty far out of your looks league….face time with a girl is your best friend. But you need to isolate her to get a fair shake. So ya, you play right into that initial ‘this is a guy who will buy me some drinks and I can use him for awhile and not give him much, if any, sex. why not go on a date or something.’

    Fine — who gives a shit.

    On the date, now that she’s alone without a) her friends to judge her b) distracting club bullshit and c) in an environment where (hopefully) you have high value, you can start pouring in the alpha. Bit by bit. Still pay for her drink or whatever. Give lip service to some beta shit, but increasingly sub in the alpha. Now she should start to think that this is great — you’re a guy who’s “kind of cute” or somewhat attractive, who also will be there with her. Suddenly, maybe you’re not so bad.

    Then the next time, you go more alpha — still pay lip service to beta shit — and then you’ll get the value/attraction you need to fuck her fairly soon.

    Maybe as a theory this will fail, but it’s worked pretty great this one time I’ve done it (fell into it, really).

    Yareally is right that this is like………snorting cocaine. It’s a short-term thing that really won’t help develop your inner game from where it is currently. So ya, it’s bad for you…but ya, I’m pretty sure it would work if I did it again. It also matches up with evo-psych.

    The social circle stuff would just be a bonus.

    It’s more subtle than just ‘act beta.’


    • YaReally
      on February 1, 2014 at 5:58 pm
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      “What’s YaReally’s issue with it”

      His internals when he first proposed it were shit. “I’m gonna promise her commitment then fuck her over and lie to her friends that she’s a crazy bitch and make them fight hahaha revenge on women!!!!!”

      The way he’s described it here, I have no problems with.

      There are other issues that will come up tho:

      1) he won’t keep her because he hasn’t earned her internally and if she’s hot she’ll sniff that out. As a hot girl she’s designed to sniff out guys who can’t handle her long term. It’s like skipping to the final boss in a fighting game without knowing all the moves. Ya you for to the boss and you’ll win a few matches but you will probably get smoked eventually.

      2) he will get one-itis from spending so much time with her, esp if they aren’t fucking right away. That’s just how humans work. The longer it takes to bang her the more attached he’ll get. He’ll stop going out and obsess over her and then convince himself she’s better than other girls since his entire plan is based on “I can’t treat her like other girls, she’s DIFFERENT you guise”. This is really just mild one-itis combined with a lack of entitlement.

      3) who’s been playing the frame longer? The hot girl juggling beta orbiters and sucking resources out of them without putting out since she grew tits at 14 and has had a thousand orbiters chase her, or the guy who’s been alpha for about a year and is actively sabotaging that on purpose at the start of the relationship so he’s basically starting climbing the hill from a hole instead of level ground. Realistically who’s likely to fall I to who’s frame and get their way?

      4) “Fake it till you make it” works for beta behavior as well as alpha behavior.



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As someone who was just recently royally played by my ex gf who i would describe as a psychopath emotional vampire…the idea of Scray’s manipulation game frankly seems like something girls would do for attention.

Also, i personally don’t see this as “game” because it seems like so much work to do the “triangulation” thing.

Isn’t it far better to develop competitive anxiety through confidence in your social circle rather than “snake in the grass” game?

I’m all for getting a girl’s hamster going but this seems more “gamma” than game.


  • Scray
    on February 2, 2014 at 1:09 pm
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    lol try it. You might be surprised at how easy it is. The only reason this is bad is because you’re internals won’t develop and you know…..the general question of “is this ethical?”

    idk, I’m in this to explore as much as I can. The good side, the dark side, whatever. Pursuit of virtuosity and all of that.


    • YaReally
      on February 2, 2014 at 8:43 pm
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      The question is how many abortions, suicides, mentally-scarred/damaged chicks, broken families/marriages/relationships, etc. you can carry on your conscience while you explore that dark side.

      I can tell you right now that it’s a lot less than you’d expect.

      Ever wonder why Naturals (who tend to just take what they want without giving a shit about the possible consequences) often go through super manic ups and downs, with a shitload of suicidal thoughts on those down-turns?

      Do good in the world, make people glad they met you, and help them. The other path doesn’t end well. Dabble with it, but be ready to pull the chute before you go too far. But all I can do is warn you and hope shit works out for ya.



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As someone who was just recently royally played by my ex gf who i would describe as a psychopath emotional vampire…the idea of Scray’s manipulation game frankly seems like something girls would do for attention.

Also, i personally don’t see this as “game” because it seems like so much work to do the “triangulation” thing.

Isn’t it far better to develop competitive anxiety through confidence in your social circle rather than “snake in the grass” game?

I’m all for getting a girl’s hamster going but this seems more “gamma” than game.


  • Scray
    on February 2, 2014 at 1:09 pm
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    lol try it. You might be surprised at how easy it is. The only reason this is bad is because you’re internals won’t develop and you know…..the general question of “is this ethical?”

    idk, I’m in this to explore as much as I can. The good side, the dark side, whatever. Pursuit of virtuosity and all of that.


    • YaReally
      on February 2, 2014 at 8:43 pm
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      The question is how many abortions, suicides, mentally-scarred/damaged chicks, broken families/marriages/relationships, etc. you can carry on your conscience while you explore that dark side.

      I can tell you right now that it’s a lot less than you’d expect.

      Ever wonder why Naturals (who tend to just take what they want without giving a shit about the possible consequences) often go through super manic ups and downs, with a shitload of suicidal thoughts on those down-turns?

      Do good in the world, make people glad they met you, and help them. The other path doesn’t end well. Dabble with it, but be ready to pull the chute before you go too far. But all I can do is warn you and hope shit works out for ya.