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Optimizing Your Womanizing: Weightlifting

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YaReally
on October 23, 2014 at 3:27 am
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lol.

While you manly men are spending 2 hours in the gym and Krav Maga classes, this is how PUAs work out:

Todd sounds like girly effeminate homo and he’s short and skinny with gay body language and tonality..and despite that he’s able to do this sober in the daytime just fucking around before he teaches a bootcamp.

Are half of these numbers probably going to flake? Sure, it’d be better if he slowed down a bit to make sure he built solid deep comfort/rapport instead of just showing off for the camera. Are a bunch of them friendly/social/asexual closes where he’s going to have to pull some serious escalation in person to turn things into a sexual territory? Sure, it’d be better if he showed more intent from the start and didn’t have to pick up the slack when he gets them out (although one could argue being non-threatening in the daytime can help get the girl and her friends out to party where you can then be more sexual either with her or her friends and get the lay). Either way, there’s no reason he shouldn’t be able to fully close a solid chunk of those numbers.

Spend 2 months hitting the gym for 2 hours a day, and then spend 2 months doing THIS exercise for 2 hours a day, and let me know which method gets you more pussy lol The way to get better at picking up girls is to PICK UP GIRLS. A lot of this other shit like go climb a mountain and go join MMA and go shave a few more bodyfat % off you and go earn more money, is just guys trying to convince themselves that they don’t have to go approach that turbo hottie at the bar and risk getting rejected…they can do all these OTHER things and increase the chances of that hottie liking them or approaching them. It’s like when you don’t want to write a book report for school so you do a thousand other things book report RELATED to try to stall for time and procrastinate hoping that the book report will just somehow write itself, but it’s not going to happen. You have to sit down with the pen in your hand and start writing…and your first draft might suck and you throw it out, and the second might be a bit better but still not be A+ worthy, so you throw that one out and write it again and again and again until you can consistently write a good book report and ace that shit.

Now if you want to spend 2 hours in the gym AND spend 2 hours sarging, that’s cool, but that’s 4 hours out of your day and you’re going to be physically and mentally exhausted, especially if you’re also spending 12 hours a day on business shit to get rich. If you can pull all of that off for years, then you’re a badass and good on you for being Superman. But if you’re a normal dude, some of that is gonna’ slip here and there…if you have to budget your time and pick between 2 hours of lifting weights or 2 hours approaching girls, GO APPROACH GIRLS. lol

When people are skeptical of “oh how could you have multiple girls on the go, or have a regular harem of fuckbuddies, whatever man, you must be exaggerating”, I think a lot of times they don’t realize that they’re probably playing “pickup-lite”. They’re out Fri/Sat night for a couple hours and get a number or two, maybe take a girl home once a month, and that’s what they think PUAs are doing. I used to go out 3-5 nights a week every week, from like 8pm – 2am. It’s NOT difficult to build up a harem quickly, you just have to take action and push your interactions and push for closing them. Not this gay “I got some validation so I’m happy, I don’t want to fuck this up so I’ll just ask for her number or find her in the bar later hopefully” shit that a lot of guys do these days. Back when I was first writing Field Reports EVERY night out was bare MINIMUM 3-5 number closes (lots of flakes of course, but the point is that I was pushing myself to get used to grabbing the number) and at LEAST a makeout. Like that was bare minimum shit for the PUA community back in the old days.

Right now I’m in full work mode so I’m just relying on fuckbuddies to get me through the winter, and I know my social skills are going to atrophy because of it, but I also know that even if I’m starting from complete scratch 6 months from now, I can just go out and push myself and it’ll take me like a month to get my skills back in shape and less than a month to get a new solid harem of hotties going.

Part of why a number of guys including CH himself have said that they actually do better when they’re out of shape is because when you’re out of shape you don’t have the subconscious crutch to rely on and you game better with less outcome dependence. On top of that, and this one might just be me I dunno, but I don’t want to be full-body sore when I’m boning a chick or at the bar picking up girls to bone, so if I’m going to have a few girls over to bang that week I’m probably not going to be working out because I don’t want to be feeling all crippled shuffling around when I have to toss them around the bedroom for a few hours lol Right now I’m not having sex as often so I can be sore for most of the week and I’m attempting to get in a bit better shape, but when I have a full harem going and I’m sarging regularly, there’s no point where I’m like “ok I want to be so sore I can barely move for 2 or 3 days”.

Anyway, take Bob. He worked out for 2 hours today like he does every day, then he hit the mall and bought a $1000 suit. Before leaving he dropped by the BMW dealership and bought himself a nice brand new BMW. He spent an hour on his hair and getting the perfect shave and shining up his shoes and making sure everything looks perfect, made sure to do some pushups before the bar so when he takes off his jacket girls can see his rippling muscles…

If THAT guy doesn’t get pussy that night, how much of a loser would most people say he is? If he can’t even get laid with all that shit?

So from the start he’s got outcome dependence because he needs validation (interestingly this is more common in guys who made big changes, so like a rags to riches guy will run into this more than a guy who fluked out and was born rich because the born rich guy is just used to it while the rags to riches guy needs his new life validated).

Then add in game…Bob doesn’t NEED game. These bitches are gonna’ love his biceps. He’s just gonna’ flex at the bar. Huh…how come that turbo girl isn’t approaching him? Doesn’t she see his muscles? What’s going on? Is he not jacked enough yet? Maybe his suit is the wrong color…why isn’t she looking at him? She keeps talking to that loud obnoxious guy who’s making fun of her. Bob shouldn’t have to go approach her or anything…she should just KNOW how high value he is because of how he looks. You know what it is, this bitch is just stupid probably, she doesn’t understand REAL value, she’s probably some lesbo bar slut anyway. Oh but hey, this average 6 is approaching Bob, SHE’S feeling confident because she’s drunk and knows she has to chase guys to get laid. Wow she’s feeling his biceps and telling him she loves his muscles!! SEE!! Bob knew all that hard work in the gym was going to pay off. Sure, she’s an average girl, but he doesn’t have to mention that in his Field Report, he can just call her “cute” and not mention that the girl he really wanted was the hot turbo in the corner that isn’t paying attention to him.

And you know what? Bob could totally GET that turbo, but he’s Next’ed her because she doesn’t appreciate value ’cause she’s a dumb bitch. This average girl isn’t that great, especially considering all the work he’s put into his shit, but you know what, since Bob KNOWS he COULD get that turbo girl (even tho he hasn’t yet except that one fluke time with a girl in his social circle, and you know, he’s had a lot of hot bartender chicks tell him he looks sexy so he could probably get those girls too, you know, he just doesn’t WANT to is all), it’s okay to take this average 6 home and fuck her. Because he COULD get that turbo if she wasn’t such a retarded bitch. So he’s going to take this 6 home “for the lulz” tonight and lol about it with his bros and try to laugh it off as a joke…till he’s alone and looking in the mirror listening to a 6 snoring in his bed and thinking “wtf :( why does this keep happening??”

Now take Billy. Billy looks like shit. He’s got a beer gut from partying hard lately, people in his social circle all have cars and drive him around because they like hanging out with him so he doesn’t really see a need for wasting money on a car, he meant to hit the gym this morning but he was busy trying to kick out a girl from last night…he’s supposed to meet up with his buddies at the bar tonight but he forgot to wash his nice shirt and he’s lazy so he forgot to shave and just kind of rolls out of bed and off to the bar.

Subconsciously he KNOWS he’s going to have to pull out some A++ game, because his looks sure as shit aren’t gonna’ help him lol In fact, Billy finds it funny that he’s even approaching girls, let alone the turbo girl in the bar. It’s hilarious to him to approach her when he looks like shit and his buddies will lol if he tries so he walks over to her, passing by this buff James Bond looking dude leaning against the bar trying to lean in a pose where he knows his muscles look good, and he obnoxiously cuts into her group, already half-laughing to himself as he makes fun of her, not even caring if he gets her or not because if he doesn’t get her then of course he didn’t he looks like shit, and if he gets her then he’s amazing for doing it with such a handicap, so it’s all win/win for him.

It’s good to take care of your body for your own health (especially past 30 when your body doesn’t recover from hangovers or late nights banging as well and you don’t have the sexual cardio to bone for hours that you had in your 20s, and when you want to look like the cool old Clooney VS a fat slob that reminds her of her dad). And being in shape DOES show good things about you in terms of alpha (it shows you have some self-discipline, self-motivation, etc.)

But there’s no reason to stress getting uber-jacked. if you go out enough you’ll see the dynamics I’m describing above play out a lot more than social conditioning would have you think. I’ll bet a few guys reading my account of Bob felt their gut churn because they recognized the nights they’ve done exactly what I described lol


  • kant
    on October 23, 2014 at 11:51 am
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    @yareally

    “When people are skeptical of “oh how could you have multiple girls on the go, or have a regular harem of fuckbuddies, whatever man, you must be exaggerating”, I think a lot of times they don’t realize that they’re probably playing “pickup-lite”. They’re out Fri/Sat night for a couple hours and get a number or two, maybe take a girl home once a month, and that’s what they think PUAs are doing. I used to go out 3-5 nights a week every week, from like 8pm – 2am. It’s NOT difficult to build up a harem quickly, you just have to take action and push your interactions and push for closing them. ”

    You don’t even have to go out anywhere near that much to get a harem of FBs. If you hook up with a few new girls a month at least a couple of those are going to want to see you regularly. Keep doing that for a few months and soon you have 10 girls wanting to see you once a week and you have no time to game new girls anymore. Lately I’ve been telling new girls I’m leaving town and kicking girls out of my rotation because banging all these girls once a week started to feel like a job and I had no time to do anything else.

    Guys packed into gyms are confusing as fuck to me, I mean does anyone here actually know a ripped guy who gets a lot of cute girls? Seems to me like girls are socially conditioned to say muscly guys are “hot”, because feminists have told them to talk like men and that’s what guys say about girls with good bodies, but if you actually ask a cute girl if she’s every hooked up with a muscled up guy 90% of the time she’ll say no, those guys are dumb / full of themselves, but what they really mean is they have no game and are low social class Jersey shore wannabes. Game (intelligence, especially social intelligence and emotional IQ) and social class are extremely important to high SMV women


    • Scray
      on October 23, 2014 at 1:23 pm
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      IMHO ‘no X is dumb/full of themself’ is female code for ‘hes too high value for me,’ without exception. whether it’s good looks, muscles, game, etc. it always means the same thing.

      what I hear MORE often about good looking/ripped/etc. guys is actually that they’re ‘really nice,’ or that ‘something just didn’t click.’

      going to the gym and doing game at the same time is really awesome. a) when you know what you’re doing, you only need to be in the gym for like 30-40 minutes maximum, b) you feel great after working out, so it’s easy to get into ‘let’s hit on chicks’ mindset, but most important is c)….when you remake yourself, you realize how much guys truly suck at conversing with women.

      it’s VERY EASY to become good-looking enough to where most women will give you a ‘fucking’ chance. from there, you just have to know how to talk to and act toward them.

      going to the gym is great because it allows you to become a scientist. you are making yourself more equivalent in looks to a or b. then you watch a or b interact with chicks. now you interact with chicks. a or b has no game. you have game. split the diff in results, and now you’re seeing everything in action and proving it to yourself.



Optimizing Your Womanizing: Weightlifting

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YaReally
on October 23, 2014 at 3:27 am
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lol.

While you manly men are spending 2 hours in the gym and Krav Maga classes, this is how PUAs work out:

Todd sounds like girly effeminate homo and he’s short and skinny with gay body language and tonality..and despite that he’s able to do this sober in the daytime just fucking around before he teaches a bootcamp.

Are half of these numbers probably going to flake? Sure, it’d be better if he slowed down a bit to make sure he built solid deep comfort/rapport instead of just showing off for the camera. Are a bunch of them friendly/social/asexual closes where he’s going to have to pull some serious escalation in person to turn things into a sexual territory? Sure, it’d be better if he showed more intent from the start and didn’t have to pick up the slack when he gets them out (although one could argue being non-threatening in the daytime can help get the girl and her friends out to party where you can then be more sexual either with her or her friends and get the lay). Either way, there’s no reason he shouldn’t be able to fully close a solid chunk of those numbers.

Spend 2 months hitting the gym for 2 hours a day, and then spend 2 months doing THIS exercise for 2 hours a day, and let me know which method gets you more pussy lol The way to get better at picking up girls is to PICK UP GIRLS. A lot of this other shit like go climb a mountain and go join MMA and go shave a few more bodyfat % off you and go earn more money, is just guys trying to convince themselves that they don’t have to go approach that turbo hottie at the bar and risk getting rejected…they can do all these OTHER things and increase the chances of that hottie liking them or approaching them. It’s like when you don’t want to write a book report for school so you do a thousand other things book report RELATED to try to stall for time and procrastinate hoping that the book report will just somehow write itself, but it’s not going to happen. You have to sit down with the pen in your hand and start writing…and your first draft might suck and you throw it out, and the second might be a bit better but still not be A+ worthy, so you throw that one out and write it again and again and again until you can consistently write a good book report and ace that shit.

Now if you want to spend 2 hours in the gym AND spend 2 hours sarging, that’s cool, but that’s 4 hours out of your day and you’re going to be physically and mentally exhausted, especially if you’re also spending 12 hours a day on business shit to get rich. If you can pull all of that off for years, then you’re a badass and good on you for being Superman. But if you’re a normal dude, some of that is gonna’ slip here and there…if you have to budget your time and pick between 2 hours of lifting weights or 2 hours approaching girls, GO APPROACH GIRLS. lol

When people are skeptical of “oh how could you have multiple girls on the go, or have a regular harem of fuckbuddies, whatever man, you must be exaggerating”, I think a lot of times they don’t realize that they’re probably playing “pickup-lite”. They’re out Fri/Sat night for a couple hours and get a number or two, maybe take a girl home once a month, and that’s what they think PUAs are doing. I used to go out 3-5 nights a week every week, from like 8pm – 2am. It’s NOT difficult to build up a harem quickly, you just have to take action and push your interactions and push for closing them. Not this gay “I got some validation so I’m happy, I don’t want to fuck this up so I’ll just ask for her number or find her in the bar later hopefully” shit that a lot of guys do these days. Back when I was first writing Field Reports EVERY night out was bare MINIMUM 3-5 number closes (lots of flakes of course, but the point is that I was pushing myself to get used to grabbing the number) and at LEAST a makeout. Like that was bare minimum shit for the PUA community back in the old days.

Right now I’m in full work mode so I’m just relying on fuckbuddies to get me through the winter, and I know my social skills are going to atrophy because of it, but I also know that even if I’m starting from complete scratch 6 months from now, I can just go out and push myself and it’ll take me like a month to get my skills back in shape and less than a month to get a new solid harem of hotties going.

Part of why a number of guys including CH himself have said that they actually do better when they’re out of shape is because when you’re out of shape you don’t have the subconscious crutch to rely on and you game better with less outcome dependence. On top of that, and this one might just be me I dunno, but I don’t want to be full-body sore when I’m boning a chick or at the bar picking up girls to bone, so if I’m going to have a few girls over to bang that week I’m probably not going to be working out because I don’t want to be feeling all crippled shuffling around when I have to toss them around the bedroom for a few hours lol Right now I’m not having sex as often so I can be sore for most of the week and I’m attempting to get in a bit better shape, but when I have a full harem going and I’m sarging regularly, there’s no point where I’m like “ok I want to be so sore I can barely move for 2 or 3 days”.

Anyway, take Bob. He worked out for 2 hours today like he does every day, then he hit the mall and bought a $1000 suit. Before leaving he dropped by the BMW dealership and bought himself a nice brand new BMW. He spent an hour on his hair and getting the perfect shave and shining up his shoes and making sure everything looks perfect, made sure to do some pushups before the bar so when he takes off his jacket girls can see his rippling muscles…

If THAT guy doesn’t get pussy that night, how much of a loser would most people say he is? If he can’t even get laid with all that shit?

So from the start he’s got outcome dependence because he needs validation (interestingly this is more common in guys who made big changes, so like a rags to riches guy will run into this more than a guy who fluked out and was born rich because the born rich guy is just used to it while the rags to riches guy needs his new life validated).

Then add in game…Bob doesn’t NEED game. These bitches are gonna’ love his biceps. He’s just gonna’ flex at the bar. Huh…how come that turbo girl isn’t approaching him? Doesn’t she see his muscles? What’s going on? Is he not jacked enough yet? Maybe his suit is the wrong color…why isn’t she looking at him? She keeps talking to that loud obnoxious guy who’s making fun of her. Bob shouldn’t have to go approach her or anything…she should just KNOW how high value he is because of how he looks. You know what it is, this bitch is just stupid probably, she doesn’t understand REAL value, she’s probably some lesbo bar slut anyway. Oh but hey, this average 6 is approaching Bob, SHE’S feeling confident because she’s drunk and knows she has to chase guys to get laid. Wow she’s feeling his biceps and telling him she loves his muscles!! SEE!! Bob knew all that hard work in the gym was going to pay off. Sure, she’s an average girl, but he doesn’t have to mention that in his Field Report, he can just call her “cute” and not mention that the girl he really wanted was the hot turbo in the corner that isn’t paying attention to him.

And you know what? Bob could totally GET that turbo, but he’s Next’ed her because she doesn’t appreciate value ’cause she’s a dumb bitch. This average girl isn’t that great, especially considering all the work he’s put into his shit, but you know what, since Bob KNOWS he COULD get that turbo girl (even tho he hasn’t yet except that one fluke time with a girl in his social circle, and you know, he’s had a lot of hot bartender chicks tell him he looks sexy so he could probably get those girls too, you know, he just doesn’t WANT to is all), it’s okay to take this average 6 home and fuck her. Because he COULD get that turbo if she wasn’t such a retarded bitch. So he’s going to take this 6 home “for the lulz” tonight and lol about it with his bros and try to laugh it off as a joke…till he’s alone and looking in the mirror listening to a 6 snoring in his bed and thinking “wtf :( why does this keep happening??”

Now take Billy. Billy looks like shit. He’s got a beer gut from partying hard lately, people in his social circle all have cars and drive him around because they like hanging out with him so he doesn’t really see a need for wasting money on a car, he meant to hit the gym this morning but he was busy trying to kick out a girl from last night…he’s supposed to meet up with his buddies at the bar tonight but he forgot to wash his nice shirt and he’s lazy so he forgot to shave and just kind of rolls out of bed and off to the bar.

Subconsciously he KNOWS he’s going to have to pull out some A++ game, because his looks sure as shit aren’t gonna’ help him lol In fact, Billy finds it funny that he’s even approaching girls, let alone the turbo girl in the bar. It’s hilarious to him to approach her when he looks like shit and his buddies will lol if he tries so he walks over to her, passing by this buff James Bond looking dude leaning against the bar trying to lean in a pose where he knows his muscles look good, and he obnoxiously cuts into her group, already half-laughing to himself as he makes fun of her, not even caring if he gets her or not because if he doesn’t get her then of course he didn’t he looks like shit, and if he gets her then he’s amazing for doing it with such a handicap, so it’s all win/win for him.

It’s good to take care of your body for your own health (especially past 30 when your body doesn’t recover from hangovers or late nights banging as well and you don’t have the sexual cardio to bone for hours that you had in your 20s, and when you want to look like the cool old Clooney VS a fat slob that reminds her of her dad). And being in shape DOES show good things about you in terms of alpha (it shows you have some self-discipline, self-motivation, etc.)

But there’s no reason to stress getting uber-jacked. if you go out enough you’ll see the dynamics I’m describing above play out a lot more than social conditioning would have you think. I’ll bet a few guys reading my account of Bob felt their gut churn because they recognized the nights they’ve done exactly what I described lol


  • kant
    on October 23, 2014 at 11:51 am
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    @yareally

    “When people are skeptical of “oh how could you have multiple girls on the go, or have a regular harem of fuckbuddies, whatever man, you must be exaggerating”, I think a lot of times they don’t realize that they’re probably playing “pickup-lite”. They’re out Fri/Sat night for a couple hours and get a number or two, maybe take a girl home once a month, and that’s what they think PUAs are doing. I used to go out 3-5 nights a week every week, from like 8pm – 2am. It’s NOT difficult to build up a harem quickly, you just have to take action and push your interactions and push for closing them. ”

    You don’t even have to go out anywhere near that much to get a harem of FBs. If you hook up with a few new girls a month at least a couple of those are going to want to see you regularly. Keep doing that for a few months and soon you have 10 girls wanting to see you once a week and you have no time to game new girls anymore. Lately I’ve been telling new girls I’m leaving town and kicking girls out of my rotation because banging all these girls once a week started to feel like a job and I had no time to do anything else.

    Guys packed into gyms are confusing as fuck to me, I mean does anyone here actually know a ripped guy who gets a lot of cute girls? Seems to me like girls are socially conditioned to say muscly guys are “hot”, because feminists have told them to talk like men and that’s what guys say about girls with good bodies, but if you actually ask a cute girl if she’s every hooked up with a muscled up guy 90% of the time she’ll say no, those guys are dumb / full of themselves, but what they really mean is they have no game and are low social class Jersey shore wannabes. Game (intelligence, especially social intelligence and emotional IQ) and social class are extremely important to high SMV women


    • Scray
      on October 23, 2014 at 1:23 pm
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      IMHO ‘no X is dumb/full of themself’ is female code for ‘hes too high value for me,’ without exception. whether it’s good looks, muscles, game, etc. it always means the same thing.

      what I hear MORE often about good looking/ripped/etc. guys is actually that they’re ‘really nice,’ or that ‘something just didn’t click.’

      going to the gym and doing game at the same time is really awesome. a) when you know what you’re doing, you only need to be in the gym for like 30-40 minutes maximum, b) you feel great after working out, so it’s easy to get into ‘let’s hit on chicks’ mindset, but most important is c)….when you remake yourself, you realize how much guys truly suck at conversing with women.

      it’s VERY EASY to become good-looking enough to where most women will give you a ‘fucking’ chance. from there, you just have to know how to talk to and act toward them.

      going to the gym is great because it allows you to become a scientist. you are making yourself more equivalent in looks to a or b. then you watch a or b interact with chicks. now you interact with chicks. a or b has no game. you have game. split the diff in results, and now you’re seeing everything in action and proving it to yourself.



Why Online Dating Is Limiting

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YaReally
on October 14, 2014 at 7:43 pm
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Tinder in a college town is a fucking goldmine.

Online game is good text game practice. The reason my text game is sick is because I practiced a shitload on online girls (even ones I didn’t actually intend to meet up with). The same skils directly translate to normal live pickup text game.

Online girls are lower quality in general than what you’ll meet in real life. Anyone saying they’re pulling regular 8+/10 girls online is full of shit unless they live in Vegas…actually it’s possible on Tinder if you live near a university. Tinder is full of prime chicks right now. It’ll be overtaken by fatties and old chicks within a year just like POF when they hear girls can get laid off it. There are legit hotties looking to bone on Tinder.

The 9s and 10s online are generally just on there for validation and entertainment, or to build their social networks and are very hard if not almost impossible to turn things sexual with unless by sheer fluke you happen to be their visual type and happen to catch them on a night they’re horny and have nothing else going on and you manage to meet up with them before they change moods. Best bet is to get them to shit-test you and pass the tests and intrigue them enough to meet up…if they just have pleasant conversation you will never meet up or will be friendzoned asexual. Better to get rejected for being too sexual and aggressive than rejected for being an asexual mangina talking about puppydogs and ice cream.

While online game translates directly to real life text game, online game does NOT translate to actual real life GAME. Having 200 matches on Tinder will not help you cold approach a hottie you see at Starbucks or handle all the obstacles and nuances of pulling a dolled up 9 from a club.

Do not replace going out with online game or you’ll be limiting yourself in the longrun, but feel free to use it as a supplement on the side, especially Tinder because Tinder is a low time investment.

Don’t bother with online game if you’re not white or under 5’9″. It’s going to do more damage to your confidence than anything because as CH’s article explains women are comparing you to an ideal. You aren’t even appearing in her searches. She’s like the “no girl” from a few articles ago. In person you can demonstrate high value and that EXACT same girl will fuck you and tell you she loves that you’re a short Asian midget but online she’ll probably reject you. Don’t waste your time, go socialize and cold approach, you will become way better and more confident than you ever could through online game even if you were banging the 6s and 7s on there.

Don’t waste time. Don’t message back and forth for a month. Go for the number on a high note in your first conversation. She’ll probably shit-test you about it. Learn to hold your frame and pass that shit-test. Getting her number in the first convo instantly sets you apart as a guy who makes shit happen and goes for what he wants, and having a direct line to her personal number makes you a part of her world instead of another name in her inbox. Even on Tinder, where she has the app on her phone and it handles messaging, get her personal number…she can be seduced into sending sexy pics that way (you don’t send any, you’re a man) and when she inevitably deletes her profile you will still be in her contacts. It also lures her away from the site…ie – would you rather that to see your interesting message she goes into her inbox with 200 other guys sending her messages or would you rather she stop opening that inbox because she’s having fun txting you and she doesn’t have to open her inbox to see your txts?

Push for the meetup ASAP and extend it only if you have to. ie – push for coming over for a movie, if she hesitates lol it off and say ok drinks in a public place with witnesses. Don’t offer the public place unless you have to because 1) some girls will be up for coming over if you gamed them solid and 2) even if they want to meet up public you’ve shown your intention so them showing up means they’re potentially interested in getting fucked because they know your intentions.

Pick a venue near your place, don’t go out of your way to meet up…if she won’t bite keep gaming and try again until she does.

Don’t to to a venue she picks. She will always pick a venue where he has high value like a bar she’s a regular in and you have to compete with the charismatic bartenders and other orbiters she knows or girlfriends of hers. Do NOT come to her. If she txts you drunk saying she’s horny and wants you to come to Some Bar, this is a trap. She’s trying to show her friends she can have guys orbit her. She’s probably invited a few guys to see who bites and let them fight over her and she still goes home with her girls. Get her to invest SOMETHING even if it’s “no there’s a line. Meet me at the McDonald’s.” If she’ll go there then she’s down to bone just escalate and take her home. If she won’t and insists you come to her, she’s tooling you just bail and meet up another time on your terms.

Run standard game exactly like you would in person. Build attraction, innuendo/misinterpretation, tease, push/pull, spike their buying temperature, qualify them, disqualify yourself, build deep comfort/rapport, and push the interaction forward. Don’t get caught in pointless conversation, always be progressing the sarge toward the goal. You can lay 90% of the groundwork thru text. A lot of online chicks are cool with one drink to make sure you aren’t a serial killer or 400lbs neckbeard and they’re down to leave to bone with no LMR, if you run solid text game.

You don’t have to respond to every text. Don’t answer stupid shit. Make them qualify to you, put them on their toes. You aren’t impressing them, they’re impressing YOU cause you’re a busy dude with shit to do and they need to give you reasons to give them your time.

There’s some online shit off the top of my head. I used to do a ton of it while also going out when I was hyperfocused. But I’m too busy focusing on career stuff to go out much right now and OKCupid is gay and POF is full of ugly fatties, so I just use Tinder these days because it’s hip with the kids and full of 18-25yos. No ab pics and I’m a generic looking white guy but my profile blurb is clever and I’m in an area with a bunch of college chicks, I’ve had plenty of success on there.

If you’re under 30, decent looking, single (if a girlfriend catches you on tinder like her friend sees you, you’re fucked, it’s a hookup app) and you’re NOT on Tinder, you are an idiot. Like I say, don’t replace going out with Tindering, but use it as a supplement and text game trainer.


  • martin
    on October 15, 2014 at 8:43 am
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    Really? I fit that age range but I am not on Tinder. I am just too sceptical of it. The women on there are clearly highly promiscuous and I really doubt that the numbers work out. But the promiscuity is enough to turn me away from it. You would have to assume any woman you meet on there has potentially many other partners at the same time.


    • Scray
      on October 15, 2014 at 3:35 pm
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      As we’ve told you before, you suffer from the beta trap of thinking in terms of promiscuous vs. non-promiscuous women, which is an artificial distinction high value girls trick betas into believing in.

      What’s funny is that accepting this whole paradigm is to accept a host of contradictions — if a woman’s looks are 80 percent of her value, then logically, her sexual history can’t count for that much anyway.

      [CH: not for short term flings. a woman's sexual history only becomes an issue for men if she is in the running as a prospective LTR or wife. the greater the man's commitment, the more of a woman's character traits he'll judge.]

      If this is the outgrowth of some sort of “impulsiveness” gene, then “promiscuity” is also correlated with other “good” and “fun” behaviors and vice versa for “chastity,” which strongly implies a wash.

      [the madonno/whore "complex" exists for sound evolutionary reasons. it is advantageous to men to determine which girls are good to go, and which girls are good to sow.]

      If you have a hot girl who gets your blood going, you really are not going to give a fuck about her past (barring extreme outlier shit like STDs, heavy problematic drug use, etc. etc and even then it’s not because of ‘the past.’) I believe that what many men are mad about is that they have settled for a lower-SMV girl because they think the lower-SMV girl will be more loyal, which they judge based on the sexual history; when that reasoning goes up in smoke, they are pissed. But the root of the anger is in settling for a chick who isn’t smokin’ hot — it’s not because of the chick’s past.

      [the resentment that brews in a man when he's dating a slut with a history is subtler and less immediate than the resentment that erodes his happiness when he's settled for an ugly girl. but the resentment in the former case is real and its effects on the relationship are just as corrosive, albeit much time can pass before those effects become symptomatic.]



Why Online Dating Is Limiting

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YaReally
on October 14, 2014 at 7:43 pm
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Tinder in a college town is a fucking goldmine.

Online game is good text game practice. The reason my text game is sick is because I practiced a shitload on online girls (even ones I didn’t actually intend to meet up with). The same skils directly translate to normal live pickup text game.

Online girls are lower quality in general than what you’ll meet in real life. Anyone saying they’re pulling regular 8+/10 girls online is full of shit unless they live in Vegas…actually it’s possible on Tinder if you live near a university. Tinder is full of prime chicks right now. It’ll be overtaken by fatties and old chicks within a year just like POF when they hear girls can get laid off it. There are legit hotties looking to bone on Tinder.

The 9s and 10s online are generally just on there for validation and entertainment, or to build their social networks and are very hard if not almost impossible to turn things sexual with unless by sheer fluke you happen to be their visual type and happen to catch them on a night they’re horny and have nothing else going on and you manage to meet up with them before they change moods. Best bet is to get them to shit-test you and pass the tests and intrigue them enough to meet up…if they just have pleasant conversation you will never meet up or will be friendzoned asexual. Better to get rejected for being too sexual and aggressive than rejected for being an asexual mangina talking about puppydogs and ice cream.

While online game translates directly to real life text game, online game does NOT translate to actual real life GAME. Having 200 matches on Tinder will not help you cold approach a hottie you see at Starbucks or handle all the obstacles and nuances of pulling a dolled up 9 from a club.

Do not replace going out with online game or you’ll be limiting yourself in the longrun, but feel free to use it as a supplement on the side, especially Tinder because Tinder is a low time investment.

Don’t bother with online game if you’re not white or under 5’9″. It’s going to do more damage to your confidence than anything because as CH’s article explains women are comparing you to an ideal. You aren’t even appearing in her searches. She’s like the “no girl” from a few articles ago. In person you can demonstrate high value and that EXACT same girl will fuck you and tell you she loves that you’re a short Asian midget but online she’ll probably reject you. Don’t waste your time, go socialize and cold approach, you will become way better and more confident than you ever could through online game even if you were banging the 6s and 7s on there.

Don’t waste time. Don’t message back and forth for a month. Go for the number on a high note in your first conversation. She’ll probably shit-test you about it. Learn to hold your frame and pass that shit-test. Getting her number in the first convo instantly sets you apart as a guy who makes shit happen and goes for what he wants, and having a direct line to her personal number makes you a part of her world instead of another name in her inbox. Even on Tinder, where she has the app on her phone and it handles messaging, get her personal number…she can be seduced into sending sexy pics that way (you don’t send any, you’re a man) and when she inevitably deletes her profile you will still be in her contacts. It also lures her away from the site…ie – would you rather that to see your interesting message she goes into her inbox with 200 other guys sending her messages or would you rather she stop opening that inbox because she’s having fun txting you and she doesn’t have to open her inbox to see your txts?

Push for the meetup ASAP and extend it only if you have to. ie – push for coming over for a movie, if she hesitates lol it off and say ok drinks in a public place with witnesses. Don’t offer the public place unless you have to because 1) some girls will be up for coming over if you gamed them solid and 2) even if they want to meet up public you’ve shown your intention so them showing up means they’re potentially interested in getting fucked because they know your intentions.

Pick a venue near your place, don’t go out of your way to meet up…if she won’t bite keep gaming and try again until she does.

Don’t to to a venue she picks. She will always pick a venue where he has high value like a bar she’s a regular in and you have to compete with the charismatic bartenders and other orbiters she knows or girlfriends of hers. Do NOT come to her. If she txts you drunk saying she’s horny and wants you to come to Some Bar, this is a trap. She’s trying to show her friends she can have guys orbit her. She’s probably invited a few guys to see who bites and let them fight over her and she still goes home with her girls. Get her to invest SOMETHING even if it’s “no there’s a line. Meet me at the McDonald’s.” If she’ll go there then she’s down to bone just escalate and take her home. If she won’t and insists you come to her, she’s tooling you just bail and meet up another time on your terms.

Run standard game exactly like you would in person. Build attraction, innuendo/misinterpretation, tease, push/pull, spike their buying temperature, qualify them, disqualify yourself, build deep comfort/rapport, and push the interaction forward. Don’t get caught in pointless conversation, always be progressing the sarge toward the goal. You can lay 90% of the groundwork thru text. A lot of online chicks are cool with one drink to make sure you aren’t a serial killer or 400lbs neckbeard and they’re down to leave to bone with no LMR, if you run solid text game.

You don’t have to respond to every text. Don’t answer stupid shit. Make them qualify to you, put them on their toes. You aren’t impressing them, they’re impressing YOU cause you’re a busy dude with shit to do and they need to give you reasons to give them your time.

There’s some online shit off the top of my head. I used to do a ton of it while also going out when I was hyperfocused. But I’m too busy focusing on career stuff to go out much right now and OKCupid is gay and POF is full of ugly fatties, so I just use Tinder these days because it’s hip with the kids and full of 18-25yos. No ab pics and I’m a generic looking white guy but my profile blurb is clever and I’m in an area with a bunch of college chicks, I’ve had plenty of success on there.

If you’re under 30, decent looking, single (if a girlfriend catches you on tinder like her friend sees you, you’re fucked, it’s a hookup app) and you’re NOT on Tinder, you are an idiot. Like I say, don’t replace going out with Tindering, but use it as a supplement and text game trainer.


  • martin
    on October 15, 2014 at 8:43 am
    Original Link

    Really? I fit that age range but I am not on Tinder. I am just too sceptical of it. The women on there are clearly highly promiscuous and I really doubt that the numbers work out. But the promiscuity is enough to turn me away from it. You would have to assume any woman you meet on there has potentially many other partners at the same time.


    • Scray
      on October 15, 2014 at 3:35 pm
      Original Link

      As we’ve told you before, you suffer from the beta trap of thinking in terms of promiscuous vs. non-promiscuous women, which is an artificial distinction high value girls trick betas into believing in.

      What’s funny is that accepting this whole paradigm is to accept a host of contradictions — if a woman’s looks are 80 percent of her value, then logically, her sexual history can’t count for that much anyway.

      [CH: not for short term flings. a woman’s sexual history only becomes an issue for men if she is in the running as a prospective LTR or wife. the greater the man’s commitment, the more of a woman’s character traits he’ll judge.]

      If this is the outgrowth of some sort of “impulsiveness” gene, then “promiscuity” is also correlated with other “good” and “fun” behaviors and vice versa for “chastity,” which strongly implies a wash.

      [the madonno/whore “complex” exists for sound evolutionary reasons. it is advantageous to men to determine which girls are good to go, and which girls are good to sow.]

      If you have a hot girl who gets your blood going, you really are not going to give a fuck about her past (barring extreme outlier shit like STDs, heavy problematic drug use, etc. etc and even then it’s not because of ‘the past.’) I believe that what many men are mad about is that they have settled for a lower-SMV girl because they think the lower-SMV girl will be more loyal, which they judge based on the sexual history; when that reasoning goes up in smoke, they are pissed. But the root of the anger is in settling for a chick who isn’t smokin’ hot — it’s not because of the chick’s past.

      [the resentment that brews in a man when he’s dating a slut with a history is subtler and less immediate than the resentment that erodes his happiness when he’s settled for an ugly girl. but the resentment in the former case is real and its effects on the relationship are just as corrosive, albeit much time can pass before those effects become symptomatic.]



A Test Of Your Game: The No Girl

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YaReally
on October 7, 2014 at 5:46 pm
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Big reply in mod but what a lot of guys forget in their vision of how this’ll play out (and why a lot of these probably won’t work) is that if she’s saying “No” in THAT dismissive a manner in the first place, that probably means she’s categorized you (unfairly or not) as so low-value that she can even DO that to you in the first place.

So she’s unlikely to listen to your witty little 2 sentence responses that totally zing her or excuse why you were approaching her etc.. If you were high-value enough to her for her to listen to your follow-up to her “No”, you wouldn’t have gotten that hardcore “No” in the FIRST place.

(yes, yes, there are exceptions bla bla)


  • Scray
    on October 7, 2014 at 7:51 pm
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    As someone who has gotten hard rejections aplenty, I gotta agree.



A Test Of Your Game: The No Girl

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YaReally
on October 7, 2014 at 5:46 pm
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Big reply in mod but what a lot of guys forget in their vision of how this’ll play out (and why a lot of these probably won’t work) is that if she’s saying “No” in THAT dismissive a manner in the first place, that probably means she’s categorized you (unfairly or not) as so low-value that she can even DO that to you in the first place.

So she’s unlikely to listen to your witty little 2 sentence responses that totally zing her or excuse why you were approaching her etc.. If you were high-value enough to her for her to listen to your follow-up to her “No”, you wouldn’t have gotten that hardcore “No” in the FIRST place.

(yes, yes, there are exceptions bla bla)


  • Scray
    on October 7, 2014 at 7:51 pm
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    As someone who has gotten hard rejections aplenty, I gotta agree.



California Law Boosts Secret Sex Video Revolution

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YaReally
on October 1, 2014 at 7:33 am
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Egg McMuffin – $2.79
Small Orange Juice – $1.39
Hash Brown – $1.00
The girl you fucked last night not getting Buyer’s Remorse – PRICELESS.

Time for every dude in California to search for “Buyer’s Remorse” in my archive and do some reading. I’ll even link it for the lazy people:

http://yareallyarchive.com/search/?q=%22buyer%27s+remorse%22

Alphas not only won’t be immune to BR, but they’ll probably be the ones that get it the most because they’re too cocky to think they need to deal with BR. Most of the Naturals I know have a ton of former bangs who HATE them because they didn’t do their after-care managing the girls’ feelings to make sure things end on a positive or neutral note.


  • money shot
    on October 1, 2014 at 8:52 am
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    “Egg McMuffin – $2.79″

    disgusting. quality gash would hate a guy for even bringing it up.

    “Most of the Naturals I know have a ton of former bangs who HATE them”

    good. who cares what girls think. worst judges of character imaginable.

    “they didn’t do their after-care managing the girls’ feelings to make sure things end on a positive or neutral note.”

    feelings and management are for orbiters and beta boyfriends.

    so much fear propaganda based on nothing. out of the millions and millions of nightly hookups how many end up with rape charges false or not?

    just the usual bs to keep people from discussing the real issues like mexi invasion, pension lies, budget insanity, horrible schools, water supply, tech bubble, corruption, bloated govt., militarized police force

    cali is a joke


    • Scray
      on October 1, 2014 at 3:13 pm
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      ‘feelings and management are for orbiters and beta boyfriends.’



California Law Boosts Secret Sex Video Revolution

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YaReally
on October 1, 2014 at 7:33 am
Original Link

Egg McMuffin – $2.79
Small Orange Juice – $1.39
Hash Brown – $1.00
The girl you fucked last night not getting Buyer’s Remorse – PRICELESS.

Time for every dude in California to search for “Buyer’s Remorse” in my archive and do some reading. I’ll even link it for the lazy people:

http://yareallyarchive.com/search/?q=%22buyer%27s+remorse%22

Alphas not only won’t be immune to BR, but they’ll probably be the ones that get it the most because they’re too cocky to think they need to deal with BR. Most of the Naturals I know have a ton of former bangs who HATE them because they didn’t do their after-care managing the girls’ feelings to make sure things end on a positive or neutral note.


  • money shot
    on October 1, 2014 at 8:52 am
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    “Egg McMuffin – $2.79″

    disgusting. quality gash would hate a guy for even bringing it up.

    “Most of the Naturals I know have a ton of former bangs who HATE them”

    good. who cares what girls think. worst judges of character imaginable.

    “they didn’t do their after-care managing the girls’ feelings to make sure things end on a positive or neutral note.”

    feelings and management are for orbiters and beta boyfriends.

    so much fear propaganda based on nothing. out of the millions and millions of nightly hookups how many end up with rape charges false or not?

    just the usual bs to keep people from discussing the real issues like mexi invasion, pension lies, budget insanity, horrible schools, water supply, tech bubble, corruption, bloated govt., militarized police force

    cali is a joke


    • Scray
      on October 1, 2014 at 3:13 pm
      Original Link

      ‘feelings and management are for orbiters and beta boyfriends.’