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Study: Women Really Are Becoming More Like Men

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Scray
on September 26, 2013 at 2:58 pm
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Here’s a good Q for ya’ll:

So….how do you kno if things a girl says, such as ‘I’ve never done X, felt X, etc. before’ are true?

Clearly some girls must lie about this. But at the same time, there’s a first time for everything.

I ask b/c my behavior is becoming increasingly assholish and narcissistic — like, the more I get these girls to do for me, the more I want them to do….just cause — but, it’s seeming to work on every level. Some of the sex has just been insane…..to the point where I can’t even look at these people the same way lol how can you? It’s like living another life.

So anyway, there’s been a surge of comments like those recently and I was wondering ‘well how the fuck do I kno if these bishes are telling the truff?’


  • YaReally
    on September 27, 2013 at 10:16 am
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    “So….how do you kno if things a girl says, such as ‘I’ve never done X, felt X, etc. before’ are true?”

    Best you can do is create an extremely non-judgemental environment for her to admit shit to you. If you really want to play with fire and disillusion yourself (lol), tell girls you think it’s HOT when they act slutty and that you LIKE hearing about shit they’ve done with other guys, and act like that’s some kind of voyeuristic/cuckoldy turn-on. I used to do that now and then when I had a feeling a girl wasn’t on the level about her history and man, the Pandora’s Box of fucked up shit THAT one opens lol

    Girls pretty much only lie about their sexual history/desires when they fear judgement. Girls LOVE to talk about themselves and LOVE sharing secrets and shit. They’d LOVE to tell you all sorts of shit that they’ve done or want to do, but they don’t want to be judged for it.

    So a girl will tell basically two types of people the truth about her sex life:

    1) Someone who she knows won’t judge her (her BFF who acts as her wingwoman when she’s out cheating on her man and/or cheats herself etc. and won’t judge her, her gay friend who sucks a bunch of dick himself and won’t judge her, a highly non-judgemental sexual guy who she feels comfortable admitting shit to, etc.). Her non-BFF friends, co-workers, family, 99.999% of the guys she dates, her husband, etc. are all people she usually feels will judge her, so to them she’s a perfect angel. This is why when you go on those postsecret sites where people admit shit anonymously, girls will admit super fucked up disturbing shit…there’s no judgement when they’re anonymous.

    Keep in mind that she may also judge/shame HERSELF, especially if she’s in a logical headspace, like being in a brightly lit science lab filling out a survey on her sexual history where she’ll bullshit a bunch of stuff and/or have actually rewritten her history via her hamster in her head. But put a girl in a situ where she’s a couple drinks in, horny, and in private with a kinky/freaky sexual guy she trusts won’t judge her or will enjoy her stories as you both share your stories together, and she’ll tell you all sorts of shit.

    2) Someone who’s judgement she doesn’t give a shit about. This can mean either she’s interacting with someone so low-value to her that she doesn’t give a shit what he/she thinks, or it can mean that she’s so confident and legitimately doesn’t care what other people think of her (ie – the thing we strive for in doing pickup) that she’s an open book.

    Also most guys are shit in bed. Girls don’t come back to me for my millions of dollars and 6-pack abs and chisled jaw and ferrari. They come back because I’m a good fuck lol So I hear stuff like “omg I’ve never cum like that before” etc. all the time, and I quiz them a bit on what guys they’ve fucked have been like in bed because the stories are usually funny in a shake-my-head way. Maybe they’re all just brilliant actresses improvising stories on the fly, but when you go out a lot you tend to get a sense for when people are bullshitting you.

    Anyway, enjoy it and take it all as a compliment. You’re hitting them on emotional levels that most guys don’t know how to tap into, and if you’ve done your homework on how to fuck, you’re going to end up with a lot of girls falling for you. Pretty much every girl I bang falls in love ASAP, that’s part of why I follow all the rules on keeping them at arm’s length.



Study: Women Really Are Becoming More Like Men

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Scray
on September 26, 2013 at 2:58 pm
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Here’s a good Q for ya’ll:

So….how do you kno if things a girl says, such as ‘I’ve never done X, felt X, etc. before’ are true?

Clearly some girls must lie about this. But at the same time, there’s a first time for everything.

I ask b/c my behavior is becoming increasingly assholish and narcissistic — like, the more I get these girls to do for me, the more I want them to do….just cause — but, it’s seeming to work on every level. Some of the sex has just been insane…..to the point where I can’t even look at these people the same way lol how can you? It’s like living another life.

So anyway, there’s been a surge of comments like those recently and I was wondering ‘well how the fuck do I kno if these bishes are telling the truff?’


  • YaReally
    on September 27, 2013 at 10:16 am
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    “So….how do you kno if things a girl says, such as ‘I’ve never done X, felt X, etc. before’ are true?”

    Best you can do is create an extremely non-judgemental environment for her to admit shit to you. If you really want to play with fire and disillusion yourself (lol), tell girls you think it’s HOT when they act slutty and that you LIKE hearing about shit they’ve done with other guys, and act like that’s some kind of voyeuristic/cuckoldy turn-on. I used to do that now and then when I had a feeling a girl wasn’t on the level about her history and man, the Pandora’s Box of fucked up shit THAT one opens lol

    Girls pretty much only lie about their sexual history/desires when they fear judgement. Girls LOVE to talk about themselves and LOVE sharing secrets and shit. They’d LOVE to tell you all sorts of shit that they’ve done or want to do, but they don’t want to be judged for it.

    So a girl will tell basically two types of people the truth about her sex life:

    1) Someone who she knows won’t judge her (her BFF who acts as her wingwoman when she’s out cheating on her man and/or cheats herself etc. and won’t judge her, her gay friend who sucks a bunch of dick himself and won’t judge her, a highly non-judgemental sexual guy who she feels comfortable admitting shit to, etc.). Her non-BFF friends, co-workers, family, 99.999% of the guys she dates, her husband, etc. are all people she usually feels will judge her, so to them she’s a perfect angel. This is why when you go on those postsecret sites where people admit shit anonymously, girls will admit super fucked up disturbing shit…there’s no judgement when they’re anonymous.

    Keep in mind that she may also judge/shame HERSELF, especially if she’s in a logical headspace, like being in a brightly lit science lab filling out a survey on her sexual history where she’ll bullshit a bunch of stuff and/or have actually rewritten her history via her hamster in her head. But put a girl in a situ where she’s a couple drinks in, horny, and in private with a kinky/freaky sexual guy she trusts won’t judge her or will enjoy her stories as you both share your stories together, and she’ll tell you all sorts of shit.

    2) Someone who’s judgement she doesn’t give a shit about. This can mean either she’s interacting with someone so low-value to her that she doesn’t give a shit what he/she thinks, or it can mean that she’s so confident and legitimately doesn’t care what other people think of her (ie – the thing we strive for in doing pickup) that she’s an open book.

    Also most guys are shit in bed. Girls don’t come back to me for my millions of dollars and 6-pack abs and chisled jaw and ferrari. They come back because I’m a good fuck lol So I hear stuff like “omg I’ve never cum like that before” etc. all the time, and I quiz them a bit on what guys they’ve fucked have been like in bed because the stories are usually funny in a shake-my-head way. Maybe they’re all just brilliant actresses improvising stories on the fly, but when you go out a lot you tend to get a sense for when people are bullshitting you.

    Anyway, enjoy it and take it all as a compliment. You’re hitting them on emotional levels that most guys don’t know how to tap into, and if you’ve done your homework on how to fuck, you’re going to end up with a lot of girls falling for you. Pretty much every girl I bang falls in love ASAP, that’s part of why I follow all the rules on keeping them at arm’s length.



Study: The Neg Works

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jamesmarkii
on September 12, 2013 at 8:20 am
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Examples
That purse is pretty but looks kind of cheap?


  • YaReally
    on September 12, 2013 at 11:05 am
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    “That purse is pretty but looks kind of cheap?”

    Nope. This is just a compliment followed by a flat-out insult.

    Something like “that purse is pretty. My friend got one just like it when she went to Asia for like $5, I can’t believe how cheap that stuff is there! :) ” as if you expect her to agree, is more of a neg because its all complimentary but there’s a backhanded implication that her purse is a knock-off which makes her want to qualify “no this is the real thing, it was expensive!” to not seem like a girl who wears cheap fake shit.

    Of course commenting her purse is pretty either way is super gay lol


    • Crazy Heart
      on September 12, 2013 at 11:37 am
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      You can use an insult like this if she is being a complete bitch, but it’s still better to be playful about it.


      • some dude
        on September 12, 2013 at 12:03 pm
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        Insults like that don’t work because they reek of butthurtness, better to be the man they want and then choose to either bang them or reject them
        Once they see value in you then an insult or rejection will work but not before, if she is being a bitch (and not shit testing) then she sees no value in you


        • Scray
          on September 12, 2013 at 12:38 pm
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          Ding-ding-ding-ding-ding!

          So much pickup advice focuses on what to do when you have value (not even necessarily higher value), and what most guys struggle with is just getting value.

          A good neg is a sneaky, subtle DHV commando sent behind enemy lines. Like, this right hurr: Nice purse, you must be aggressive. Look at the beauty of that neg. Playful, unafraid, cold read that implies some form of pre-selection (ya ALL OF THE GIRLS, and there were plenty, that I know who have big purses tend to be aggressive, you’re just another one in a million).



Hipster Racist
on September 12, 2013 at 8:32 am
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Didn’t they used to call “negging” “teasing” and isn’t it something boys and girls start doing on the playground?


  • Scray
    on September 12, 2013 at 12:41 pm
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    Nah, this is wrong. Teasing is for when you have already established the correct dynamic. Negs (and other assorted tools) establish the dynamic.


    • YaReally
      on September 12, 2013 at 1:39 pm
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      This is key. That’s why Mystery talks about using 3 negs immediately on a 10. From there you only neg if she tries to take things back into an adversarial/testing frame, to snuff out bad behavior and teach her to be nice.

      Teasing doesn’t work if you’re low-value…negging is to establish your high value. That’s why you for neg a 6…if you’re a decently social confident guy, you’re already high enough value. But the stripper who has millionaires buying her trips to Rome, you’re less than nothing to her until you establish value.

      Another key is that teasing is blatantly conscious, whereas negging tends to come off like you’re oblivious…as if you didn’t realize asking if she’s wearing extensions is, in Girl World, an insult. Like you seem like a big dumb friendly dog establishing rapport but you inadvertently poke at a sore spot. So you have that plausible deniability…but they still have to react.

      There are a lot of little nuances to all this, which is why 1) so many guys with their “read about negs in Maxim” level training and no field experience fuck it up, and 2) when executed correctly, it’s powerful as fuck.

      All these little things Mystery came up with about starting in Attraction not trying to start in Rapport, and not goin backwards in the pickup from Comfort back to teasing, etc…these are important details that make a difference.

      I still highly recommend people serious about learning game watch/read Mystery Method. The actual wording is old-school outdated, but the concepts are still 100% solid. I use a lot of RSD stuff these days, but I have a massive solid foundation of MM under it.


      • Tilikum
        on September 12, 2013 at 2:35 pm
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        “Teasing doesn’t work if you’re low-value…negging is to establish your high value. That’s why you for neg a 6…if you’re a decently social confident guy, you’re already high enough value. But the stripper who has millionaires buying her trips to Rome, you’re less than nothing to her until you establish value.”

        This is the best advertisement for inner game too. Fix your frame, get it congruent, and the value follows you in the room, in cop circles called “command presence”.

        Lest all the simps and new learners think that you have to keep overthinking this stuff forever. If you really fix your game and internalize it, you don’t just mimic a natural, you become a natural, implied value and all. But you MUST do the work. Learn to kill your ego first, and then fire it back up and focus it.

        Then you can just be the kind you (not the nice one) but with full frame control. The land of milk and honeys. Or a healthy LTR. (note on that, less than in 10,000 are LTR material BTW, but don’t take my word for it.)


        • Scray
          on September 12, 2013 at 5:36 pm
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          ‘note on that, less than in 10,000 are LTR material BTW, but don’t take my word for it.’

          This. Banging girls and sloots may be a matter of game-skill, but finding legitimately cool girls seems to be more of a numbers game.



Bob Wallace
on September 12, 2013 at 9:22 am
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Negging is a dumb word. It’s just teasing. I’ve been doing it since I was 12, and have an inborn natural talent at it. And yes, it made young teenage girls get crushes on me. If you don’t have any talent at it, it’s really not going to work. I don’t know how anyone can develop a natural spontaneous wit. I’ll say this, though: when you are witty then you are often a cause of wit in others.


  • YaReally
    on September 12, 2013 at 11:12 am
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    “If you don’t have any talent at it, it’s really not going to work. I don’t know how anyone can develop a natural spontaneous wit.”

    Nah, you can learn it. It’s a lot easier for guys who grow up teasing girls (like guys with multiple sisters etc), but anyone can learn it. That’s why there are books on comedy and improv classes and shit. It’s just hard and can take a long time and the path is full of a ton of awkward embarrassing interactions until you get better at it lol


    • Bob Wallace
      on September 12, 2013 at 1:26 pm
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      “Nah, you can learn it.”

      I have seen guys make incredible fools of themselves trying to learn it. In college I saw a guy in the library sit down at a table I was at and said to the girl sitting there, “What’s the story, morning glory?” He honestly said that. I think I looked at him with my mouth open. Then he got defensive and said, “It’s the only way I know to talk to girls.”

      I looked at her and said, “I looked at you and had a spontaneous physical reaction.” She sort of giggled and looked down. Then I added, “I didn’t say what kind of reaction it was.” She looked confused and maybe a little angry.

      I said to him, “That’s how you do it.”

      It was completely spontaneous on my part and his was completely rehearsed.


      • Scray
        on September 12, 2013 at 1:52 pm
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        10 bucks says you were just better looking than the other guy. Case closed. File under: things passively high value men think count as ‘wit.’



Dealing With Hair-Ruffling AMOGs

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YaReally
on September 11, 2013 at 9:14 am
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Oboy, here come the eBadass crew, ready to throw down at a friendly fun house party because someone people like in their social circle dared to tool them in a friendly fun (if annoying) way. UNLEASH THE HOUNDS OF HELL AND BURN THE HOUSE TO THE GROUND I HAVE SO MANY FRIENDS AND AM INVITED TO SO MANY PARTIES YOU GUYZ BECAUSE I HANDLE THESE SITUATIONS SO WELL NOW WHERE’S MY MOLOTOV COCKTAIL!!!?!?!

Here’s how you handle it:

1) Internally: your hair is gay anyway. Does that make you sad? Is your whole identity based around being a Don Draper lookalike? Will girls not LIKE you if your hair is messy or if I don’t think it’s cool? Is your whole fucking self-worth based on how perfect your hair is combed? What if I just ran a shaver thru half of it? Would you cry like a little bitch and stop going to parties and stop talking to girls and throw a fist at me because you’re so attached to your external shit that if anyone fucks with it it DESTROYS you? What if I spill a drink on your shirt? What if I tell you your shoes aren’t cool? What if a girl makes fun of your car? You are not your fucking khakis.

2) Externally: leave it messed and turn to the nearest girls and stoically deadpan “girls. My buddy just messed up my incredible hair. Does it look ridiculous? It does, doesn’t it. Now how am I going to lose my virginity, with this terrible hair? I can already see that you no longer want anything to do with me, when you used to love me. Fix my hair for me, so I’m worthy of love again.” and lean forward for them to fix it.

Don’t take yourself seriously. Life is short.

I’m making fun of the OP because its not the same situ as a short guy who gets hair-ruffled because of his height. From this guy’s writing you can tell he’s wrapped up in the identity of trying to be a stoic Don Draper badass…people are fucking with him because they think his stoic roleplaying is retarded and incongruent and they’re right and it bothers him because his brain is going “nooo!!! I’m pretending to be don draper don’t ruin it for me :( :( :( my hair is messed now I don’t look like him o no!!!! Does everyone still think I’m cool??? I gotta run to the bathroom and fix my hair so I can feel cool again before anyone notices!!”

Would they ruffle the hair of some legit alpha? No. Because that guy is congruent and they know it won’t bother him. They’re literally only picking on him because they know it’ll bug him and they know it’ll bug him because he’s incongruent and playing pretend instead of being himself, even if he doesn’t realize it. He’s putting on a persona externally, and people can tell his internals don’t match it.

Anything he does that gives a fuck in any way will be reactive until his self-worth is based on his internal core value where this kind of thing doesn’t phase him, instead of his external shit.

They can tell he attaches his self-worth to his image and they know its not actually solid so fucking with his image will get a reaction because he’s not congruent to it…VS the short guy where they’re picking on him just because they’re bullying him and he can’t do anything about his height. This guys problem is an easy fix (quit attaching your worth to your image), whereas the short guy’s situ actually requires AMOG’ing.


  • Scray
    on September 11, 2013 at 11:26 am
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    ‘whereas the short guy’s situ actually requires AMOG’ing.’

    Truff. It’s almost like opposite land. If you’re otherwise normal and react to someone trying to tool you, you’re a beta tryhard. But if you’re short (or something else that on its face indicates a lack of masculinity), you HAVE to stand up for yourself. You have no choice.

    People may eventually start saying you have a complex or whatever, but you will get more respect. No such thing as a free lunch.



Lower Your IQ For Happiness

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Scray
on September 10, 2013 at 12:08 pm
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Well……phuck…………………………

Long story short, smashed that divorced single mother in the wide social circle that the 7 is a part of. I thought she was an 8 or something, but like….her face is maybe a 5, but her body ls liiiiiike……….an 11.

Dis is great tho. Cause u see, she is 31 (older than me) and has two kids (fairly old). All the greatest features evaaaaar. She’s a roman catholic half-hispaic, half-white….

The main issue hurr is that t3h sex was t3h most amazing ever. Liiiiike, cosmically righteous. Liiiiiiike, I felt like I was on drugs afterwards. Liiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiike, I feel like I has become a man nao.

Can’t really eat, can’t sleep…..all can think about….is smashing her moar.
Horrible situ. Srs.


  • RappaccinisDaughter
    on September 10, 2013 at 12:24 pm
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    You’re not looking to marry this woman, correct? So who gives a shit how old she is and how many kids she’s got?

    Just…make sure you wrap it. With your own Trojans, that you bring to the party, and make sure you flush ‘em down the toilet when you’re done.


    • YaReally
      on September 10, 2013 at 5:26 pm
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      “Just…make sure you wrap it. With your own Trojans, that you bring to the party, and make sure you flush ‘em down the toilet when you’re done.”

      This. Watch out for the 30+yo chicks. Esp when you’re a young up & coming law(?) type dude who’d make a good provider to lock down with a pregnancy (or even just a scare).

      Otherwise have fun lol Older chicks usually know their shit in bed compared to the young’uns, partly because they know their bodies better and partly because, like how a fat chick gives good head, they HAVE to be good in bed.

      You’ll be a better lay for the hotter girls down the road when you’ve had good sex a few times in your life, even if she’s a butterface. Try banging her and then going out to the bar after lol it does good things for your vibe with other girls to have just been laid.


      • Scray
        on September 10, 2013 at 5:34 pm
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        Hnnnnnng.


        • YaReally
          on September 11, 2013 at 3:54 pm
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          Also stick to the rules. Once a week max, once every two weeks is preferable with an older chick…she’s not going anywhere, she’s old, so you don’t have competition that’s going to take her away, and she’s going to get attached a lot faster than a young’un. Don’t txt every day. Don’t do DVD cuddle movie nights and shit that isn’t sex related, etc.

          Long as you’re safe/smart about it, it’s fine. But that magic rainbow-shooting pussy will make you want to not be safe/smart lol



Hunter
on September 10, 2013 at 1:42 pm
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so last weekend… kinda started to try to do the ‘kiss girl in 10 secs’ challenge that yareally shared in that liam vid WAY back in june or something.

friday night, after getting out of my scared self, i go up to redhead across the street:

Me: Hey I gotta ask you something.
Her: Yeah?
Me: Would you ever kissed a stranger on the street?
Her: Hmm no.
Me: Oh…
Her: Well… (smiling)
Me: (in my head i’m thinking, oh shit)

Friend pulls her away as she asks where i’ll be tonight. I tell her this where. she can’t go to the bars there cuz her friends aren’t old enough (college town).

Definitely going to try this again this weekend. Maybe even today after work lol (I feel like i’m going to tell myself i wont be able to though).


  • Scray
    on September 10, 2013 at 7:21 pm
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    Humiliation is the only way. If I were you, I’d just make it a point to go out and approach without getting laid in mind. Like, go up to a girl and just say something really obnoxious.

    Ya, I’ve done it for shits and giggles (there’s a FR around here somewhere with the opening ‘so do you do anal?’). You have to free yourself from the opinions of others. Bomb in front of your bros, go after the hot chick with everyone watching. Dare to fail. And when you get in there, just go for it. The level of success you need to experience in order to feel god-like is VERY low, lol.

    I still have trouble completely going for it, but as time goes on it gets easier and easier.

    That’s all I can really say atm (that’s ass-to-mouth), because atm (at the moment) my thoughts are kind of a jumbled mess.


    • YaReally
      on September 10, 2013 at 8:15 pm
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      “The level of success you need to experience in order to feel god-like is VERY low, lol.”

      This is an important point lol especially when you’re starting out. You hold a 10 minute conversation with a smokin hottie and don’t even get a number or anything but you’re like “woohoo I am awesooooommeeee!!!!” dancing around lol

      You get numb to it the more you do it, which is why you start pushing things down the road. Opening with crazier shit, opening harder sets, escalating faster, going for 3-somes, etc.

      But when you’re starting out, just getting yourself into set can be an addicting adrenaline rush…so get the fuck in there and crash & burn. :D