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A Beta Orbiter Gets The Green Light?

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tjic (@tjic)
on May 22, 2013 at 9:10 am
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Two of your other classics would seem appropriate.

You: “gay”


You: “I don’t know right now’s complicated.”

  • Matthew King
    on May 22, 2013 at 10:25 am
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    Say what? This is the worst possible time for the “gay” reply. And the other stock answer, “It’s complicated,” is straight-up nonsensical.

    Are you all really so programmed? Think about what the “A” stands for in “PUA,” ye herd of soi-disant “alphas.”

    A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

    • YaReally
      on May 22, 2013 at 6:32 pm
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      Agreed. Totally uncalibrated. This kind of thing is why I don’t worry about game going mainstream and making it harder to get laid…most guys will just randomly parrot lines and cross their fingers something works out.

      This is under that category of “lol this will be funny to tell my friends I said to a girl!” instead of “this will actually get me the lay in this situation”.

      • Patriarch
        on May 22, 2013 at 7:44 pm
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        I feel bad for guys stuck in the black nail paint and “omg did you see that fighf outside” stage. I was there. I did that.

        • Scray
          on May 22, 2013 at 9:40 pm
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          I used to get this a lot in HS from girls in the same situ over and over again — having a good time, just shooting the shit, and then unprompted — ‘if we weren’t such good friends….(fill in whatever romantic/sexual thing here).’ Back then I was just mentally like ‘well fuck, there’s just some more pussy I can’t slay. Great.’ Now…I think I may have missed out on a lot of it.

          ‘I feel bad for guys stuck in the black nail paint and “omg did you see that fighf outside” stage. I was there. I did that.’

          lol ya it’s kinda gay…but there’s nothing quite like finding a routine (made up or cribbed from somewhere else) that the Field approves of. And I’ve only found two that are pretty awesome. The ‘hey guys sorry I’m late’ opener….and just the general act of going 90.

          Going 90 is like…….the most powerful move I’ve seen so far. I’ve gotten makeouts with it (even after initial resistance). I’ve also noticed that one of my natural friends….like…that’s his WHOLE game. He just goes 90 at the soonest opportunity. But do it too soon and it’s just a lot of ASD that I’m not good enough to deal with.

          He literally CHASED a girl around the house trying to make out with her. This was against her strenuous objection, blah blah blah ‘you’re creeping me out.’ Fast forward two weeks…he’s back to the same tricks. Ya. They fucked.

          So ya….like four months of doing this and all I’ve gotten are two solid moves. But from just those two moves it’s been several makeouts and one lay. 30 day challenge starts next week……

An Alpha Daddy’s Letter To His Little Girl (About Her Future Husband)

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on May 20, 2013 at 3:04 pm
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I haven’t been able to cold approach for the last few weeks, so I’ve just been doing the whole online game thing. It’s actually hilarious….like…(for me) 10 times more difficult to get anything going than in reality. I’m kind of lost, because I’ve actually tried several of the PUA recommended online openers blah blah blah…and I just think they’re for d00dz (esp online) who just naturally, through photos, are higher value.

So…….I’m just going to start sending increasingly offensive messages.
I get a lot of profile views, but no messages/responses. So, that leads me to believe they look at my height and just do the typical online ‘whatever’ thing.

Anyway, this is the only real practice I’m going to get for another week when all my school shit and whatever is over. Any suggestions, tips on what kinds of messages get an emotional reaction appreciated.

  • YaReally
    on May 20, 2013 at 10:02 pm
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    “So, that leads me to believe they look at my height and just do the typical online ‘whatever’ thing.”

    This is what’s happening. I would recommend changing your height to 5’9″ (not so tall that you get a skewed advantage but not short enough that they’ll “insta-reject” you based on their nom-emotional laundry checklist of features they expect) and just using online purely as practice at escalating, teasing, getting titty pics etc but never meet up with them (since the 5’9″ would be a lie lol)

    Guaranteed a lot of those chicks would love you if you met them in person at the bar on a charismatic night and not give a shit about your height as you feed them emotions. But the reality is with online game that they can go “filter my results for no one under 6’2″” and never get to experience your personality that would woo them.

    So ya, I say lie about your height but keep everything else the same, and use them purely as practice while you’re stuck inside. Then when you’re done exams etc you can get back to hitting up girls in real life where your personality gets them and you can apply some of the online txting stuff you learned toward the girls you meet in person when you get their #s. :)

    • Scray
      on May 22, 2013 at 5:42 pm
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      I’m torn between just lying and doing ‘practice’ or whatever, or just pushing it to see what someone like ME would have to type/do to MAKE someone on the other end of the computer HAVE to type something back.

Great Scenes Of Game In The Movies: Tony Montana Game

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on May 9, 2013 at 11:33 am
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The Connery Bond films are the best example of aloof alpha in action. Connery is the embodiment of amused mastery, whether he’s throwing a goon into a volcano or chucking a blonde into the sheets. Also, pay attention to the way he generally disregards the safety of his female counterparts. White Knight he was not.

  • Scray
    on May 9, 2013 at 2:35 pm
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    Yeah…but I think the difference is that James Bond, without doing anything, already conveys a lot of value vs. Tony Montana who is kind of a runty little cuban guy…so he has to sacrifice some aloofness while at the same time ramping up the overconfidence.

    It just seems like the less value you can get away with passively demonstrating — because of being ugly, little, bad style, whatever, etc. — the more of that overconfidence you have to project. Don’t get me wrong, I’m still bad at actually -doing- it (although I do plan on dropping that Montana line this weekend if I can remember and then reporting in)…but it seems like the path is becoming clear.

    Like…Kenny Powers would be at the extreme of this.

    lol talk about an unshakeable frame

    • YaReally
      on May 9, 2013 at 6:05 pm
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      Yep you’re on the right track. There’s a reason 5’9″ pale ginger nasally voiced skinny-ass balding Tyler doesn’t go to the club and just post-up at the bar waiting for girls to come to him. He has to get in their face and demonstrate his value and force them to notice.

      In the end this is better, because the guy who can passively post-up 1) will probably lose his looks/money/etc one day down the road and it will cripple his results because his entire worth is based on his external attributes, and 2) he never has to learn how to deal with challenge so he can get the girl as long as the planets align for him but a guy with game and charisma can easily swoop in and take her off him because he’s used to being passive and can’t handle competing with someone who’s been forced to game actively.

      It’s like the guy born rich is likely going to be shittier at managing a financial budget than the guy born poor. He simply hasn’t had to develop that skillset and hopefully he’s never in a situation where he needs to be careful with money because he won’t be able to handle it.

      I’m currently gaming in a city where all the guys at the high-end places I go to are better looking than me, richer than me, have expensive cars condos etc, and all think they have amazing pickup skills because they watched Keys to the VIP a few times. And we’re competing for dolled up hotties looking for rich successful guys. So I can’t sit back and be James Bond and expect girls to chase me. I have to get in their face and make them emotionally react to me in a way that these guys are too scared to do.

      • cryo
        on May 10, 2013 at 6:50 am
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        If you actually watch the films, the women don’t just flock to Connery’s Bond as he stands by passively. He is almost always the approacher and often has to deflect massive shit tests before the broads hop into his boat. But its the demeanor in which he does so, as if he’d rather be doing something else but for now chatting up this broad will have to do. That’s the difference between amused mastery and the performing monkeys that a lot of “PUAs” tend to come across as.

        That being said, I agree that if you are working with physical disadvantages it pays to be more ostentatious. I’m only 5’9 myself but have some good looks to work off, so maybe I’m grading on a curve here.

        • Scray
          on May 10, 2013 at 3:52 pm
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          Ya, like the progression of James Bond is approach —> pass-shit tests. Like, he really doesn’t have to build much value before the girl is attracted enough to shit test.

          The progression for someone else is —> approach —> DHV-a-shitton —> pass shit-tests.

          Tony: “what’s your name..where you from…etc.”
          Elvira: (uninterested and bored because to her Tony isn’t even equal value)

          I guess I like Tony Montana in some ways because it just shows that there’s more than one way to skin a cat.

Another Tiresome Hater Schooled To Discourage The Others

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on May 6, 2013 at 5:46 pm
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Super lame.
Ya, brb ‘being myself’ and resigning myself to a lifetime of 3-5′s.
I understand ‘accepting yourself/being honest with yourself/loving yourself…’ but to turn that into ‘ya…and so to get the results i want i should do nothing’ is retarded.
Also…even if it was dishonest and ‘appeasing,’ who gives a shit?

The polite rules that everyone gets taught only work for the natural top 5% of guys — ‘Brad Pitt say….buy a girl drink, be very nice, remember lots of things about her. Brad Pitt wonder why his advice work for him and not you.’

So it’s either accept being forever fucked or taking what’s yours in whatever way you can.

  • ImmoralGables
    on May 6, 2013 at 6:01 pm
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    “So it’s either accept being forever fucked or taking what’s yours in whatever way you can.”

    What’s mine is mine, what’s yours is mine.

    • Plumnuts
      on May 7, 2013 at 9:36 am
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      Again, dreaming. This attitude may bring you great success in gaming girls but don’t confuse it with a recipe for success in other areas cos sure as shit it ain’t.

      [CH: Many of the psychological principles of game are stolen from sales techniques.]

      There’s a reason jackals aren’t king of the jungle, but if that’s all you wanna be then go for it.

      [False premise. Now get the fuck back in your hovel. You say nothing new or insightful that a thousand insipid haters before you haven't already said.]

      • Plumnuts
        on May 7, 2013 at 11:12 am
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        I donate to this blog, and don’t remember saying I was a game denialist or hater. Somebody got the painters in today?

        The sales techniques analogy I’ve heard a thousand times before too. Boo hoo. Whilst it’s great that guys use tools to get what they want out of life, the “in whatever way you can” meme is a complete crock of shit. Selling yourself in the best way possible is not equal to deception and bullshitting, there’s a line in there somewhere and when you stay on the wrong side then it’s not girls who’ll stay away from you but other guys. Fine if you wanna live the PUA life and flip burgers, knock yourself out.

        • YaReally
          on May 8, 2013 at 10:51 pm
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          “Whilst it’s great that guys use tools to get what they want out of life, the “in whatever way you can” meme is a complete crock of shit.”

          I agree. I’m very honest in my style of game. But I think every man has to decide for themselves what moral/ethical lines people have arbitrarily drawn they’re comfortable with crossing to get what they want.

          Someone who’s starting out, and from a deficit like Scray or myself when I was new, or Tyler who was all fucked up, may see it as “I’ll do whatever works, fuck it!!” and cross any lines without caring about the bigger picture that you’re alluding to, because from where they’re starting they HAVE to be jackals just to claw their way up to a proper foothold.

          But in time when the PUA skillset becomes unconscious competence, you focus more on the bigger picture of “alright I can get most of the girls I’m interested in, now I have to decide what I really want in them and what my general code of ethics is”.

          The problem is 1) a lot of guys get so caught up in chasing pussy that they don’t bother doing some self-analysis and thinking about this because, well, they’re getting pussy lol and 2) society and other men (often the blowhard King A types who believe that their morals are the best morals) try to force men to follow THEIR set of morals/ethics/values and shame men or badger them for attempting to discover their own via life experience.

          So really I agree with both you and Scray, I think you’re just talking about different periods of a man’s development in this area, thus the conflict.

          I do some fucked up stuff, but I have very strict lines I don’t cross. They’re just not the same lines most people have.

Reader Mailbag: Own Goal Edition

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on May 4, 2013 at 1:24 pm
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On an asshole dark triad note:

The advice in #4 is why I’m not real concerned about husbands/boyfriends of girls hunting me down to kick my ass if I bang their girls. I think in an earlier time, the girl was always looked at as the innocent one and it was encouraged and manly for the guy to go find the dude and punch him out.

But these days guys have been burned by women enough and shared enough experiences online and mainstream media has harped on how women make their own decisions eat pray love style and guys have seen enough shitty behavior by girls on Facebook twitter etc etc to where most guys, in a rage like this dude will have at LEAST a couple buddies who will redirect his anger toward his girl for cheating instead of the other guy for just accepting easy pussy.

I think this is a fairly new/recent thing, and it works out great for us sketchy player types. I saw a thread on the Misc that was the same way, like 20 dudes chiming in “yo forget the guy man she’s the one who was being a slut, what guy is gonna turn down pussy?”

Even last night I was dancing with a chick and some angry orbiter came out of nowhere to break it up. Was he mad at me? Nope, he started bitching her out instead lol I was like “you two have fun” and moved on but there was absolutely zero worry about one of those 80s prom movie scenes where the Ducky orbiter punches out the douchey prom king to get the girl.

Dynamics of the dating world have changed so much in the past few years lol

  • Mitch Cumstein
    on May 4, 2013 at 6:45 pm
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    I agree there’s less of that, but you still need to be on the lookout. There will always be a guy out there who thinks some asshole tripped and his dick fell into his princess’s lockbox. It’s too painful for him to imagine she would conspire.

    I once knew this guy, recently married, went to this party. He had a weakness for Mexican girls and he saw one he liked and made out with her. She had a boyfriend, but he wasn’t there yet. The guy took off for home before he could get there. But when he got home and was getting out of his car, he heard his name being called. He turned around and WHACK! I guess the boyfriend saw him leaving and could smell it on his own girl, followed him.

    So the pissed off boyfriend didn’t just hit him once, he went to down on this guy. He ended up being put on a gurney and taken to the hospital. Two black eyes. Well…it turns out this guy is a meteorologist for a local TV station. He was told not to drink by his employers, because he’d gotten a DUI. His work found out he was getting drunk when he macked on that girl. They told him, “We’re not going to fire you…but you are leaving. Make up whatever story you want.” So the station built up this whole going-away hoopla and he said on the air he was quitting news to spend more time with his family.

    No lesson to be learned from this. Just a funny story about a guy who kissed the wrong girl at a party.

    • Glenbert
      on May 5, 2013 at 7:39 am
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      No, there is a lesson here… Men from traditional societies (e.g. Mexico) know that the only way to discourage adultery is to be willing to beat the shit out of other men.

      And it’s not about “winning back” the woman, it’s about deterring trashy people from doing trashy things.

      • Scray
        on May 7, 2013 at 3:12 pm
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        idk, i went 90 on a married chick like…in view of her husband on the dancefloor saturday….and nothing happened to me. (lol no i didn’t know she was married or that her husband was there). he just yanked her away.

Fatter, Wimpier, More Pathetic

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Newly Aloof
on May 2, 2013 at 1:34 pm
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@Heartiste: Write a book to help these poor souls.
@YaReally: You too:

  • Scray
    on May 2, 2013 at 1:49 pm
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    Oh that’s awesome!

    It’s more motivation for me to just go out there and put myself in more difficult situs and get some more of that golden advice. Hasn’t steered me wrong yet — probably because, more and more, I can see that it just comes straight from experience.

    • YaReallyAWOL
      on May 2, 2013 at 4:57 pm
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      “It’s more motivation for me to just go out there and put myself in more difficult situs and get some more of that golden advice.”

      You keep going out, and I’ll keep helping you. That’s the deal lol