Gosh darnit, they don’t dig them because of the jerkiness. They dig the strength and strong sense of boundaries. A guy with a different set of boundaries just as strong would get the same tingles. It’s no accident that church women swoon for the passionate, upright pastor — he gives off that same strength.
“they don’t dig them because of the jerkiness. They dig the strength and strong sense of boundaries.”
“I’m sure men around would try to social pressure you and be like ‘wow you’re being a dick.’ Here’s the translation: you’re challenging my dominance, I’m feeling weak right now. You aren’t being a dick. You’re holding your frame and refusing to take shit.”
Sadly, these days we are socially conditioned to believe that having boundaries and enforcing them is “jerkish” behavior, when really it’s just refusing to bend your principles despite the social pressure to do so. When you hold your frame, that’s attractive to women…their shit-tests are simply them trying to see if a silly little girl can make you uproot your principles and change your values, because if you crack under the pressure of some chick you don’t even know, how the fuck are you going to stand up to the rest of the world when shit gets real?
More on having, establishing, and enforcing boundaries here:
“they donâ€™t dig them because of the jerkiness. They dig the strength and strong sense of boundaries.”
“Iâ€™m sure men around would try to social pressure you and be like â€˜wow youâ€™re being a dick.â€™ Hereâ€™s the translation: youâ€™re challenging my dominance, Iâ€™m feeling weak right now. You arenâ€™t being a dick. Youâ€™re holding your frame and refusing to take shit.”
I’d say you can whittle down a lot of game to that single commandment. Courage, boldness, etc. Never act out of fear — it’s a difficult thing to do though. I still struggle…because the better things get, the more you have to lose. I’m going to have a tough time when I get back to the sarge because now I have this mental image of me with women…and I know it’s going to be completely shit-kicked.
Just wanted to link some related inspirational real-talk from Tyler on breakups and having to end shit with girls you like:
This is a great vid. I’m gonna take it slow, tho. I’ve just been having a weird time with these girls. Last night the 6 broke down and admitted she loved me….and I mean, wtf do I do with that? I’m emotionally drained. And then I just feel like the 7is gonna wanna a full commitment any day now. That 7.5 I hooked up with awhile ago is hot but she’s so mannish. Yck. I’d hate to be left with just her.
If I keep it up, I’ll end up right back where I started a year ago — with no one lol.
Just a heads-up: It’s gonna get even worse over the next few months, especially if you live in an area that gets a snowy winter.
There’s a chain of holidays coming up that often force relationships to escalate. Thanksgiving, Xmas, New Years, valentines day, and Easter…god forbid your girl have her birthday somewhere in that timeframe TOO.
Each of those holidays involves stuff like family dinners, office parties, partner-required events (new years kiss, v-day flowers) where the girl is socially pressured about being single still. That’s where she brings up that she’s seeing this Scray guy. And that’s where her friends, family, TV commercials, etc convince her that you’re no good because you won’t commit and that you’re just using her.
This forces her to drop the “I love you too much, we have to either be in a relationship or end things because it hurts too much” Ultimatum on you a lot faster than if none of those holidays existed.
So a girl who’s already falling in love will only fall more in love over the next few months.
This is all extra-enhanced by snow, where the girl is cooped up indoors and doesn’t meet anyone new and basically just has all her hopes pinned on you coming around to committing to her.
Figuring out how you want to manage this time of the year will be important long-term:
- Some guys like myself try to keep their relationships so casual that the girls don’t expect any of that from them…as winter approaches I’ll actively start seeing the girl every 2 weeks instead of every week like in the summer. This method runs the risk of losing her to some other guy who’s orbiter-chasing her because she doesn’t necessarily want HIM more, she wants a date for these events and to bring home to her family etc and that guy is offering that while I’m not.
- Another method is to just vanish all winter. Make up excuses for being “out of town” during key holidays etc even if you’re sitting at home in your underwear lol.
- In a similar vein you could go completely radio silent and off the grid and just not see her all winter, which would mean a lot of porn and your palm for you thru the winter
- Another method is picking one and making her your GF for the winter with the intention of breaking it off in the summer. I’ve tried this twice and ended up with an LTR GF twice because I was too chickenshit to break things off lol so I stopped doing this method and switched to the 2 week casual thing
- If you want to play some psychological warfare, you can pick a fight with the girl and break up with her completely unfairly right before this season so that she spends all winter thinking about you and missing you and wanting you back esp since its too cold out to go meet other guys
With all of these methods, you can renew the relationship in the spring/summer if you want. Even if you vanish for a few months you can just go “hey” and re-stoke the flames. With the breaking up situ you just tell her you overreacted and missed her and want to try again. Etc etc.
So you can get back to “single and playing the field and banging your FBs” eventually (tho you may lose them if they happen to meet someone in the winter but that’s pretty rare…new years is the only real “party and meet dudes” holiday out of that list…hell if you ignored all the other holidays and JUST hung out New Years you’d pretty much guarantee she doesn’t meet any other guys over the winter).
The only catch with all of this will be your own feelings for the girls. You’re gonna like some of these girls and not want to see them less. And you’re gonna be in a more scarcity-based mindset because it’s cold and lonely when you’re spending Xmas all alone without a girl curled up to you and hot chocolate and all that awesome gay shit that TV commercials are showing you all thru December. So then the “make one my GF” option will seem appealing but that option comes with “go to her family Xmas dinner and pretend you care about her more than you actually do” type stuff and I hate that shit myself…plus you may develop deeper feelings for a non-high-quality girl just by being cooped up with her and spending time together that you wouldn’t have developed if you were able to play the field more.
So your emotions will pull you in a bunch of different directions. It’ll probably take you a few winters to figure out how to handle all this. You’re gonna break some hearts and you’re gonna feel the stint of loneliness. XMas week, especially, is the loneliest time of the year for a player…you can’t even go out and meet girls because everyone is on vacation and with family etc. so you’re stuck just cooped up thinking “fuck this is lonely ”
But then spring comes around and you go “fuck ya I love being single!!!” lol
Anyway, just warning you in advance what you’re in for. Try to strike a balance between not doing too much damage to the girls (in your defense it’s not entirely your fault if you break their heart because its the season that’s escalating things that otherwise wouldn’t have escalated so fast, so you’re having your hand forced), and not doing too much damage to yourself mentally lol
Great so… it’s gonna be even harder to learn game over the winter then… I mean, it’s not like the clubs and bars will be empty… I hope.
lol it’s so funny, but I never thought of it that way. I started off gaming around the winter time, and it was just such a bitch learning. Had no idea that the season had something to do with it as well.
Here’s a spooky-but-true tale from last week:
6.5 single-mom had been upset with me — having doubts or whatever — ever since we had an argument where I got in her face about something (it was about me being with other women and I got sick of her whole ‘tell me who X is, tell me, I’ll beat her ass’ bullshit) So then, on Tuesday, she says she doesn’t feel that good (and she had been cramping really bad….which annoyed me cause it just meant I wasn’t getting it in), and that something feels ‘off.’
Surprise! Home pregnancy test positive.
That’s right. How did it happen? Who can say?
…this is on a day when she’s supposed to be moving away somewhere for a few months lol. So obv I’m like ‘wtf…….I WAS ALMOST FREEEEEE’
over the course of the week she miscarries (or maybe she had been miscarrying when she had the cramps, whichever). So we’re on the phone and she’s devastated bc this has never happened to her and says she just can’t put her body through having another kid. For some reason, my instant response was ‘well then we can’t be together.’ We get off the phone.
And so…..I try to just X her out of my life forever. I can’t — this chick is the best sex of my life. Lust = love. I just say that we can be friends, and she one-word agrees. We both exchange txts about how sad it is and that we can’t be together bc of the circumstances (there’s other shit too). My primary plan is to just see her and try to fuck her again whenever she comes back.
So then she’s like ‘we can’t do that anymore’
‘bc I don’t do that with friends’
‘even ones you’re in love with’
‘no. im not thinking of anything intimate or touching i want my body and space to be left alone’
‘find it hard to believe you don’t want me anymore’
‘are you fucking insane. i just had a miscarriage wtf is wrong with you’
‘I was just speaking generally’
‘lmfao you’re unbelievable look up what a miscarriage does to a woman. you never have the right thing to say you just care about yourself.’
So tried to talk to her again today and she’s pretty set on this ‘you don’t care about anyone but you’ line. Fck. So I said I’d leave her alone…..did I get miscarriage friend-zoned? WTF. UGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGH.
Only hope now is to just leave her alone and maybe under the guise of being friends we bang?
How we gauging this situation here?
Also, I haven’t told anyone about this. It’s so insane. When you have multiple girls, you can just kind of lean on the others to grieve. Like I slept over at the 7′s house (she’s like my bottom bitch…she takes care of me…I feel an ultimatum coming in my near future tho)…and she comforted me without me having to even talk about anything.
Anyway…..how’s that for a spooky tale?!
Pregnant, miscarriage…..phew. Jesus Christ. My life is stupid now.
Leave them better than you found them, dude. Wtf is this “but waaaah I want the seeeex” shit. You’re developing a skillset that will take you places you can’t even imagine right now…don’t become a fuck-head along the way. Become the man other men want to be, not one of the trash-heap of guys who burn the world around them instead of making it better. This is value-taking behavior, not value-giving, and it’ll bite you in the ass down the road.
There’s a reason selfish Naturals are successful but miserable when you catch them drunk and venting on a vulnerable night.
brb watching Michael Jordan dominate a bunch of children at basketball because he wants to wiiiiiiiiin and who gives a fuck about the kids crying.
Great power, great responsibility and all that shit. Let this chick go find a dude to settle with before she hits the wall.
ugh. It’s hard because I’m so not used to being with girls I actually like. This chick was cool and a good girl. She even had what a lot of women don’t seem to have — self-awareness. Her description of us once: “It’s like Benjamin Button. We’re kind of meeting in the middle, but you’re on the way up and I’m on the way down.”
It’s just going to be hard for me to let any of the cool ones go. Heartbreaking, really. Idk, that’s something that is kind of unsung around here. You get success but it still hurts. Even when you have control over it, or even if you’re the one who walks away or whatever. Still hurts.
lol ya I hear ya. Maybe I’ll do a post about it sometime, but it’s just a part of playing the game.
What the majority of guys who get into game do is first they have no girls, then they learn some game and develop their new super-power, then the first 7-8 with a decent personality (or good sex) that they land, they quit the game and settle down with her because they’ve never felt that kind of connection before and are skeptical that they can find it again in another girl. (then they stop going out, revert to their old behaviors because they didn’t do it all long enough for that stuff to stick, and the girl cheats on them lol)
The Benjamin Button thing is a good analogy. Ships passing in the night type thing. It always hurts a little bit at least, especially when you think “if things were just a LITTLE different, who knows where this could have gone.”
I got a txt from a fuckbuddy that moved away, at like 2am one night months later (so she was out drunk and just missing me) that said “i liked you a lot you know…it’s too bad you weren’t open to that…” She was a cool chick and I miss her, but I’m not in a place where I’m looking to settle right now.
There was another girl that I had insane sexual chemistry with but she was engaged to be married to a nice beta dude and we stopped hooking up as her wedding approached…I could’ve ended her engagement in ONE text, but ultimately he was going to provide her things that I wouldn’t (stability, money, a home, kids, faithfulness, etc.), so we stopped txting and I’ve never tried to re-instigate it even though I know I could easily. I miss that chick a lot, it actually took me like 6 months before I was even interested in other chicks ’cause I’d compare them to her lol
The good side of this downside is that it teaches you to appreciate people and relationships while you have them, and not to take them for granted. In my mind every relationship will end someday, even if you’re together your whole lives one of you will die at some point and it’ll be over. So I’m grateful that we meet in the middle somewhere, whether it’s for years or for a few weeks, or a night. A lot of people take that stuff for granted.
Like some people say “just don’t let any of them get too close”, and that’s a valid tactic too. You can keep the women you’re with at arm’s length and make sure you never develop feelings and dump them before you do. I know guys who do that. But personally I love women and I like some of those feelings, so I choose to embrace them but with the understanding that one day I’ll end up hurting because of it…but sometimes that’s worth it.
This will happen to you again in the future, and with a girl who’s even better for you. You’ll look at her while you’re cuddled up after sex with her asleep on your chest and think “Some day I’m going to break your heart. ” And then it’ll happen again again after her with another girl that’s even better than that one. And down the road someday when you’re ready you’ll finally choose to settle with one of them, but it’ll be on your terms, not because she dropped an ultimatum (guilt) or because you were afraid that you won’t be able to find another girl you LIKE-like (scarcity).
You have to objectively look at what you want in life as you go. If what you want right now is to settle into a relationship at your age, you can go for it, but understand that there’s a good chance that that will be IT. You don’t get to come back to the game without massive baggage after a 5 year relationship (you’d probably have a kid, a divorce, a wife you’re cheating on, no game because you stopped going out, etc.).
And at the same time you have to look at what’s best for her. Are you the best man for her? Can, or will, you give her the things that she needs in the long-term? If she was 21, she’d have time to go find those things if it didn’t work out with you. But at 31, you know she’s hitting the wall soon and what’s best for her might be some other guy who’s not nearly as fun in bed as you, but who will marry her and buy a house and build a family with her. You might give her a few fun years, but if you aren’t willing to commit further than that, you’re going to just leave her an old lonely spinster.
You can give your kid cookies for supper every night because you hate seeing him cry and it feels good when he says he loves you, but is that in his best interest? Sometimes you have to be the “bad guy” and do what’s best for the other person, even if it hurts.
This is the meaning of “Leave them better than you found them”. It’s a lot easier to say than to do lol
Also, I haven’t told anyone about this. It’s so insane. When you have multiple girls, you can just kind of lean on the others to grieve. Like I slept over at the 7’s house (she’s like my bottom bitch…she takes care of me…I feel an ultimatum coming in my near future tho)…and she comforted me without me having to even talk about anything.
ugh. It’s hard because I’m so not used to being with girls I actually like. This chick was cool and a good girl. She even had what a lot of women don’t seem to have — self-awareness. Her description of us once: “It’s like Benjamin Button. We’re kind of meeting in the middle, but you’re on the way up and I’m on the way down.” :(
I’m trying to picture ‘high energy game’. All I’m coming up with are college guys (boys being boys), Robin Williams and Jim Carey (i.e., psychos). And even Robin Williams can be wry. Jack Nicholson only uses high energy on male buds, and Warren Beatty is totally low energy.
I think high energy game would alarm the shit out of any woman over 27 with a functioning hippocampus. She’d be cycling through that gray matter of habit and routinized expectation and be thinking: “frat boy” “forex trader” “Jersey Shore” “Girls Gone Wild” and coming up with RUN AWAY NOW.
Pretty hard to imagine 007/Thomas Crowne deploying high-energy game. While it’s easy to picture a suave guy being “chosen”, if he’s 8-10 no woman will approach him. I think a suave guy with presence actually has to do the choosing, and the only way he won’t scare the shit out of a woman is by going laconic and reticent, while remaining focused.
The only time I cut loose with high energy is if I want a woman to disappear, or don’t care if she does. It’s more entertaining for me, than her, and the ones who stick around and dish it out in return can be fascinating for an extra hour or two (because they have a freaky side that the high energy licenses).
Help me out, someone, and suggest an iconic, desireable male figure over 30 who uses high energy game. I see its utility to be very low once a woman is attracted to accomplishment, protection, intelligence and wealth as much as looks. As CH’s Reader adds, above, successful people are scrupulously frugal in their conversation.
RDJ, Russell Brand, Casanova (probably).
High-energy game is well-suited for men who lack a lot of passive value — e.g., height, good-looks, etc.
The high-energy comes down to you demonstrating your value — and your value is your personality, your charm, your charisma, etc.
Danny DeVito. Prince. The little ethnic guys probably need it.
Putting ‘high-energy game’ on a chiseled WASP with gray temples? Good god. People will call the local insane asylum and call out the National Guard. I don’t think so.
Maybe starting out, ya. But to be honest, if you had two chiseled WASPs in a bar…the more outgoing, fun guy will get the most girls. The problem on this board is that people confuse ‘high energy’ with ‘constant-qualifying/trying to impress.’
I mean, what you ideally want is Step 1 — high energy game, which allows you to maximally DHV and land the hottest girl you can land. Step 2 — low energy game, which is just maintenance of that attraction.
low energy game works only when SHE IS ALREADY ATTRACTED. DUCY?
“The problem on this board is that people confuse ‘high energy’ with ‘constant-qualifying/trying to impress.’”
This. I’m slipping on all the jizz from Buena’s mental masturbation on this. Go out more.
‘adhere to the golden ratio of giving your woman 2/3s of everything she gives you, verbosity presumably included.’
2/3 EMOTIONAL INVESTMENT. As time goes on, more and more women love to hear me talk. Just imagine yourself as Tony Stark. You just say whatever the fuck you want without a filter — chicks dig that. It demonstrates the exact same non-reactivity as ‘stoic silence.’
‘The more of your store you give away, the less she’ll want to browse your product line.’
This is only if you have nothing/little to offer, and so you wear out your bag of tricks in a few long-winded conversations. However, if you DEVELOP the skill of being creative, having fun observations…what you’ll get is rapt fascination. They’ll always be continuously surprised (and aroused) by what you say…because a) you continually remind them of the fact that you’re still a mystery, despite all that you’ve said, and b) you’re so much of an inscrutable force of nature that you can talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, and talk and people still won’t be able to figure you out. What do we have? Mystery in a) and then overconfidence in your own mysteriousness in b)….all the ingredients of a tomahawk tinglebomb.
re: talking without filter. I have the same issue in an opposite manner. I -always- am without filter and as I’ve said before I’ve lit my own dick on fire not only in a game context, but social settings, and even professionally. I am much better at dialing it back these days but your point is salient though you cannot come out of the gate like that. Once you have the hooks in, you can shed your human skin…
“though you cannot come out of the gate like that.”
Yes you can. This is pretty much my style of game. Try it for a year and learn to calibrate it.
Girls primarily care about whether you’re congruent. That’s why everyone loves the Stifler characte in American Pie, ya he’s an asshole but he’s completely congruent and unashamed of it so people watching the movie go “that guy’s awesome”. Same with Russel Brand, Tony Stark, Hank Moody, etc.
The problem with most James Bond wannabes at the bar is that they’re not being laconic low-energy James Bond because that’s congruent to who they are…they’re being it because:
1) they’ve been brainwashed to think that’s what an alpha is
2) they’ve been brainwashed to believe that all girls want that (so in a way they’re supplicating more than the high-energy guy who’s just being himself…does the James Bond guy speak in only a few words to their bro-friends when there are no women around and they’re sitting around pre-drinking and playing Xbox before the bar? Or are they only James Bond at the bar? If you’re talkative with your friends and clam up at the bar trying to be the Jumbotron alpha, you are being incongruent and supplicating and high-quality hot girls who are surrounded by guys like that, will sniff it out)
and/or 3) they’re hypnotized by the environment and pinging off the environment for how they should act (this is what women do, men are supposed to have a stronger frame than their environment), so they walk into a classy martini lounge or they meet a high-value girl and they go “oop, I’d better be classy so I fit in with this crowd! That high-energy “being fun” stuff might work on those slutty drunk college girls but THESE classy women would laugh at Russel Brand and after they let him be a dancing monkey and glance over to me to rescue them, we’ll cheers our martini glasses with our pinkies up and chortle together over what a silly uncouth low-value dancing monkey this Russel fellow was before she begs me to take her back to my mansion!”
You can see these guys at every bar…standing on Death Row trying to act aloof waiting for girls to open them while their body-language oozes “I’m uncomfortable here and acting the way I think I’m supposed to act in this environment”.
Consider high-energy as not reacting to your environment, but instead making your environment react to you.
Scray’s droppin straight-up field wisdom in this thread. The guys who say it can’t be done or it wouldn’t work in such and such situation haven’t seen it done well or gotten good at it themselves.
As an introvert myself I find it can be a little overwhelming when a man tries to talk to me in very extroverted way straight from the beginning… it makes your head spin a little, his larger than life personality unleashed straight away. It can be unsettling.
But if a man is quieter I am more inclined to feel comfortable and to even try to bring him more out of his shell to talk with me, or even be curious about him as to why he is not talking so much. It is more intriguing, it’s nice for when you are just meeting.
folks, i highly recommend that you disregard this anecdotal advice. EOF, i bet you look very… let’s say… different IRL.
She’s right. It’s the pauses, not the stream of words, that matter to an introverted woman with options.
I disagree. I’d describe two of the girls I regularly see as introverts, and they enjoy my extroversion. I was extroverted with them from the get-go. Demonstrating is value is demonstrating value.
Everyone focuses on being the rock, but being a force of nature elicits the same amount of tingles.
Whether you say a million words or two words, what matters is the attitude.
Lol no they haven’t heard it all. I agree that they get hit on. But the ‘quality’ of game is pretty low, on average. Here is what the majority of women seem to experience —
guy they CHOOSE displaying classic ‘low-energy’ game
guys that try to get chosen displaying high-energy insecurity/qualification
If you are a guy that CHOOSES her with high-energy DHV’ing…. = you have a high chance of being way diff than any man she’s known.
Other guys’ game is TERRIBLE. The hot girl is often surrounded by a social circle of super good-looking jacked rich dudes, but they don’t have game and are usually not very alpha and aren’t attractive to her.
The guys cat-calling her and hitting on her during her day are usually low-value guys throwing awkward shit out there crossing their fingers. She’s not getting approached by alpha guys with game.
On top of that, when a girl is a 9+, often a lot of guys put on a “shtick” and sub-consciously KNOW they’re going to get blown out, so they go over-the-top bold and in-her-face in a way that they know isn’t good game but is ego-protection because when they blow themselves out they can sub-consciously tell themselves that THEY didn’t get rejected, it was the shtick they put on that got rejected so their self-esteem stays intact. It’s like injuring yourself on purpose so you don’t have to compete in a sport event you know you’d lose at.
On top of ALL of that, often these girls are frustrated that they can’t get rid of these guys so that a cool alpha dude can approach them. They want the guy at the other end of the bar to come say hi but they have 4 dudes blocking her from his view and scaring off other guys and she doesn’t even want to fuck those guys, and most dudes won’t approach a chick surrounded by good-looking rich-looking guys.
Best analogy for this is from BradP that goes something like: imagine you’re going out with your buddy and all day you’ve been looking forward to it and you’re psyched and you’ve spent thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours on bootcamps and products and you get a haircut and buy a sick new shirt and you read some game shit and you and your buddy watch some game vids to get inspired and pumped up and you’re both ready to kill the club jacked on energy and in state and you enter the club and there’s all these 10 hotties there and you’re like “fuck ya we’re gonna get a couple of these hotties tonight woo!!!!”
…and then a group of disgusting fat 300lbs trolls approach you and your buddy and won’t leave you alone and hit on you all night and every hot girl stays away from you because they see you’re “occupied” AND the fat gross girls are family friends or something where you can’t be an asshole to them and tell them to fuck off and get lost so you can get some hotties and you look over these fatties at the 10 hottie who’s looking at you like “I sure would like to meet this guy but I’m not fighting my way through those gross girls to get to him, oh well”
That’s what it’s like for hot girls lol
So ya, they get approached and guys “spit game” at them, but it’s TERRIBLE game and half the time the guys are more of an annoyance than anything (but they buy her shit and give her free access to the bar and pay for vacations to Paris for her etc and she hates feeling awkward/rude so she can’t get rid of them).
Verbosity is just faster to convey high-value in a chaotic environment because its pro-active while being passively laconic blends into the background (you can be pro-actively laconic but it’s not what 99% of the James Bond wannabes are). Plus being pro-actively verbose allows you more choice…passive laconic alphas tend to have to bang whatever chooses them because they don’t have the energy to overcome obstacles and take the girls they want. I’m not saying that makes them inferior but it’s a drawback of that style.
Being pro-active is key. Take what you want, your game is better than 99.999% of the men that hit on her, whether you’re verbose or laconic.
With game discussions, a man can go out that night and directly apply what was discussed and get a result, good or bad. That’s something tangible that makes progress and can change a man’s life.
A 10 page retard battle over how Jews control hollywood and black people are all criminals does nothing. There’s no one reading it going “huh, you know that guy who’s talking about how worthless Jews are is right, I’ve changed my opinion on this subject!” There’s no direct application for it. It is literally just two circle-jerks fighting over who can blow their loads the fastest.
That doesn’t mean you can’t do it, everyone is free to waste their time however they like. I’ll probably watch some YouTube videos today, that’s wasted time that accomplishes nothing as well so it’s not necessarily any better.
But that’s why people say “Where are the game posts?” Because that’s the shit that will actually change their life.
Very solid argument. I used to care a lot more about politics and all the surrounding things. I don’t anymore and it has improved my life tremendously. I had stretches of anger of hatred that got me nowhere. Just needed to get to that point where I don’t care anymore. Why spend your day obsessing about things you have no control over?
Why give a shit? Why not focus on your own shit instead…
As that guy with syphilis and a thick mustache would say — “a lot of this shit ain’t life-affirming, you [sic] cunts.”
Nah you read it wrong, it’s ‘sick cunts.’
That dude hated jews tho.
Hi folks, I need some advice. I have seen some improvements with my wife since implementing some of these concepts. One example of positive change: I stuck to curt replies during a phone call in which she was asking why I was taking so long to get home, I communicated what was going to happen, then rang off. Several minutes passed before she called back, and wanted to know, “Was I angry with her?” She herself did not sound angry, but sounded confused and respectful. Good! Typically such phone calls are full of strife and shit tests which I seem to be learning to recognize and pass more quickly, while improving my frame a bit.
Here’s the new development. This morning she asks me what is happening with me, and why am I being such a jerk lately? (If she labels what I’m doing jerk behavior, would you consider this good or bad? I realize that one of the mottos is “Better to over-jerk it than under-jerk it”, but I am not looking to alienate her.) I didn’t reply, just carried on with what I was doing. Then she asked why I’m not receptive of her physical affection as much (not really accurate), and why I don’t kiss her as I leave for work? So I went approached her for a kiss. She knew what I was doing while I was still across the room, and she was balling up to prevent me, which would ordinarily have pissed me off. But what I did was I darted in front of her and seized her arms and held her down and kissed her, which she half-protested, half assented, while saying “I don’t want you to kiss me!” I say, “Hey you said you wanted a bye bye kiss!” I kissed her some more. Then she dropped the subject, which is *unheard of* with her. Let’s hope that was a passing grade.
One more note. Her complaint this morning ties back to a big argument we had last week on the same somewhat nebulous complaint that I am ‘becoming distant’ etc (again BS because we are more physically connected recently, though I am verbalizing WAY less than usual). I think I detect that she is hamstering about last week but that it took an entire week for her to come up with the right words (screw up the courage?) to shit test the subject again.
All thoughts or advice appreciated, thanks in advance.
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Hi folks, I need some advice. I have seen some improvements with my wife since implementing some of da lotas cockasz “bring da moviez” concepts. One example of positive change: I stuck to butthext during a phone call in which she was asking why I was taking so long to get home, I communicated what was going to happen, then splloged on the waitresses’ face. Several minutes passed before she called back, and wanted to know, “Was I angry with her?” She herself did not sound angry, but sounded confused and respectful. Good! Typically such phone calls are full of sex and bukkake which I seem to be learning to recognize and pass more quickly, while extending my cockasz a bit.
Here’s the new development. This morning she asks me what is happening with me, and why am I jerking off lately in her face? (If she labels what I’m doing jerking behavior, would you consider this good or bad? I realize that one of the mottos is “Better to over-jerk it in her face than under-jerk it in her bung”, but I am not looking to alienate her.) I didn’t reply, just carried on wacking. Then she asked why I’m not receptive of her physical affection as much (not really accurate), and why I don’t kiss her vaginal area as I leave for work? So I went approached her for a kiss. She knew what I was doing while I was still across the room, and she was balling up to prevent me, which would ordinarily have pissed me off. But what I did was I darted in front of her and seized her arms and held her down and butthexted her, which she half-protested, half assented, while saying “I don’t want you to butthext me!” I say, “Hey you said you wanted a bye bye butthext!” I butthetxed her some more. Then she dropped a load, which is *unheard of* with her. Let’s hope that was a passing grade.
One more note. Her complaint this morning ties back to a big argument we had last week on the same somewhat nebulous complaint that I am ‘becoming distant’ etc (again BS because we are more physically connected recently, though I am verbalizing WAY less than usual, and the augmented distance is due to the increased length of my loststas cockasz, so now i have to stand in the dining room to bang her in the kitchen). I think I detect that she is hamstering about last week but that it took an entire week for her to cum in my face and squirtr (screw up the courage?) to shit test the subject again.
zlzozozzllz, thanks GBFM that is hilarious. Thanks also YaReally for the thorough reply and encouragement, and Scray for the honesty. And Immoral, the Dave in Hawaii post is handy. I’m loving the developments at home, and will report anything else good.
1) consider joining or at least reading the MMSL forums. I don’t read them myself but a skim looks like guys post their progress and share their epiphanies as they apply this stuff to their marriages there and that support network can be a big help, knowing that other guys are dealing with similar situations/tests and seeing their results. You’ll feel alone in this at points, your wife’s instinct is to cram you back into your label even if ultimately that leads down a path that will end in a bad relationship for the both of you…so sometimes it helps to know you’re not actually alone and your relationship is totally fixable.
2) delete the fuck out of your Internet history or only surf at work or something. Cause until she has an explanation for your changes, she will keep digging and digging to find one. You don’t want her stumbling across the Chateau or some red pill sites that have her putting you on the defensive. Pretty much guaranteed she’ll be snooping thru your Internet history and social media (Facebook etc) profiles if possible. This is again why I say to blame Tony Robbins…once she has an answer, she doesn’t have to snoop lol
Google Chrome incognito mode saves huge headaches with re: to deleting internetz history and shit.