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Feminist Gets Pumped And Dumped By PUA

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A.B. Dada
on October 25, 2011 at 12:59 pm
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This is why I’ve had tons of fun with women who are Ph.D’s in “Feminine Studies.” I still don’t know what it means — and I’ve read all the books recommended to me. Mostly beta males who have this strange (disproven) belief in equality.

Sadly, I can’t even begin to connect with the story. My history of one night stands has never involved a bar — maybe I’m the only man in history who gets grossly turned off by tipsy or drunk women.

Either way, you know that this one, who gave it thought, will be no different than the gal who gave a great night of sex no thought. In truth, all women who have an amazing one night stand of sex end up wanting to live that fantasy again. And they do it a few times, and that’s all that they want.

A Maxim: Date as young as you can, if you want to head towards marriage. Any woman over a certain age has gotten these dopamine highs, these rushes of adrenalin, and the bipolar disorder that comes from too many of them in too short a period of time. They can not commit because their hamsters will always want the wheel spinning, and the useful doormat husband can’t spin the wheel fast enough, often enough.

  • Emma the Emo
    on October 25, 2011 at 3:47 pm
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    What were the books recommended? I want to learn more about feminism and feminine studies…

    • driveallnight
      on October 25, 2011 at 6:41 pm
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      “The Beta in the Rye” / Salinger

      • Ripp
        on October 26, 2011 at 2:35 am
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        Some other reccomendations:

        -The Adventures of Cuckoldberry Finn
        -The Scarlett Condom
        -To Fuck an Uglybird
        -The Red Vaj of Courage
        -The Great Cocksby
        -Call of the Whore
        -The Cunts of Wrath
        -Invisible Man: A Beta
        -A Hairwell to Armpit Hair

on October 25, 2011 at 1:08 pm
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One point: it’s not clear that this is her getting pump and dumped.

She doesn’t say what the one text said, if she responded, etc. Maybe this guy is swimming in girls and doesn’t think he has time to fuck the same girl twice. But it seems likely he was hoping to turn her into a semi-regular hook up, but blew it by overdoing the aloofness.

[Heartiste: Um, no. It seems likely that he wasn't interested in seeing her again. Hence, the three day wait to send a tepid text. He probably felt bad about completely cutting off contact.]

I think there’s a lesson here, that if a girl fucks on the first date, and you want to fuck her again, from a purely selfish perspective you should be at least a *little bit* nice to her, to help her not feel like a slut.

[Or maybe he didn't want to fuck her again. You know, some girls are not hot enough to warrant a second fucking, let alone an LTR.]

  • shiva1008
    on October 25, 2011 at 5:06 pm
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    I actually did that exact thing last week. I liked the girl but sent her a non-sequitur text 4-5 days after the date, and she didn’t reply. This after she told me to call/text at the end of the date. I’m fairly sure that I overdid it on the aloofness. Now both of us are too proud to reinitiate. Maybe I’ll try inviting her to one of my shows in a couple of months

    • Ripp
      on October 26, 2011 at 3:05 am
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      If interested in repeat sessions or an LTR, you’ve got 3 days, MAX, to respond. After she leaves (or you leave), her ASD [Anti-Slut Defense] and hamster spinning regret [Buyer's Remorse] turn on full blast. If you give no response and day 4 has reached, you’ve basically said: “you’re a slut.” And she’ll either disapear, or you’re back in compliance attaining mode. [Game on].

      If she’s worth recycling, txt/call her within 3 days. Preferably within the first, with something very lightly validating “had fun w u” “get home ok?” And build from there. Even then she may not respond. Or will cling on like shit on a fly. Either way, you, playa, are in control. NEXT or next time, done and done.

      Chalk another one up for the good guys.

      • A.B. Dada
        on October 26, 2011 at 12:05 pm
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        I disagree with this 100%. Here’s why:

        In my experience, the hamster of a woman is VERY good at controlling a woman’s outer brain actions after a date — whether or not sex is involved.

        If I go out with a gal on a “first date” and she doesn’t text me at the end of the night or at least the next morning that she had a great time, she’s out. Not because I’m not interested in her, but her hamster has basically told her outer brain to not send that important text showing the door’s open for another meet up.

        Did this NYC slut text him that she had a great night? I don’t see any proof of it. So he did ABSOLUTELY the right thing, even if he wanted more.

        Women give signals to their inner desires. The after date text is massively important for me. If I don’t get it, she’s basically told me she’s not interested.

        Sure, I might pursue her again for a casual banging, but I absolutely, positively will not invest further if she doesn’t do what women MUST do to show me that they want more.

        Alpha, beta, whatever: if a gal doesn’t take 30 seconds to say she had a nice time, she’s out of any relationship possibility but a random banging now and then.

        • Ripp
          on October 26, 2011 at 4:33 pm
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          I see your point.

          I’m specifically talking about an SNL. My point is after you’ve nailed her, you’re in control. And you’re control has a half life.

          How each of us go about next steps in the context of getting what you want (LTR, another lay, sandwich, nexting her,diffusing clingers,social blowback mitigation, whatever) will surely differ.

          Admittedly, sometimes I like the chic, and want to see her (have fun, bang her) again. A subtle txt the following day works for me.

Basil Ransom
on October 25, 2011 at 1:38 pm
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When you first meet someone, she said, you don’t actually see them. You see a flimsy construction of their personality, created by your interpretation of the signals available.

Very keen, on her mother’s part. This is the sine qua non of the player. When everyone else represses their personality in the name of politeness, when first meeting, the player boldly goes forth. He shows his personality in spades, without hesitation.

The player has the greatest advantage over regular men when first meeting strange women. This isn’t exactly an alpha/beta distinction. Simply, players show color immediately, while regular men plod through polite conventions. The shorter the initial meet, the greater the contrast between the player and Average Joe. Betas especially may take a date or two before they will open up to a woman and show some character.

  • Student
    on October 25, 2011 at 2:20 pm
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    exactly. well said. I’ve found that you can even speak in total non-sequiturs or even be superficially socially offensive (last party i went to a told a group of professional school girls that i liked dogs better than girls because the former are easier to train) and still be the guy that everyone likes. the key to it is not having the perfect line or seeking to impress (which is where many stumble), but by conveying strong and desirable personality traits.

    • Ripp
      on October 26, 2011 at 3:16 am
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      Agreed. Essence of solid game. At a party,bar, venue etc., after initial opening:

      Her: “So, Ripp, what do you do for work?”

      Ripp: [locks eyes, smirk] [pregnant pause] “well…I’m an asshole.” [Fleets eyes]

      Her: [laughter]

      Ripp: [kino escalate] “honesty is important”

on October 25, 2011 at 1:46 pm
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How old is this guy really? She calls him a boy but states that they were both gratified with how their late 20s went. I’d be willing to bet this guy is older.

Women usually know if they’re going to fuck a guy that night if they’re dating down in age. She may have rationalized it but it sounds like she respected his knowledge and command, which older feminists would never admit about someone younger than them.

They are by their nature’s the most agist, sexist, racist people you will ever meet. Spread that tabula rasa bullshit to everyone else, then embrace your cavegrrrrrl instincts.

My guess is she worded it that way to make it seem as though they were both in their late 20s, but he was actually referring to a time when he was younger thus further qualifying her and her inexperience in comparison to him and his current status.

Women lie more often by omission.

  • Alpha cat
    on October 25, 2011 at 4:51 pm
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    I think ‘boy’ is meant as shaming language. She’s pissed the alpha did not commit so she’s trying to shame his masculinity.

    • Ripp
      on October 26, 2011 at 4:12 am
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      Agreed. Exhibited emasculation. Driven by a hurt vagina (figureatively, and litteraly, heh).

on October 25, 2011 at 3:45 pm
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She has Buyer’s Remorse because the guy didn’t make her feel special after. I assume she’s ugly or bad in bed and he just didn’t give enough of a shit to bother with it but if he wanted to avoid this situ and make her feel good about being a one night stand, all he had to do was txt her something flirty after she left his house at 3am instead of 3 days later. Even a simple “that was fun, get home safe. Sweet dreams” and she’d have thought it was the most romantic amazing wonderful night of her life and would have written an article about following your instincts into love blah blah blah.

THEN start tapering off contact with her because from his behavior it sounds like she was probably ugly or bad in bed. This is a good way to avoid any “he said she said” false “i regret my decisions so it was rape” accusations.

Kudos to the “boy” in the story. That was classic PUA 101, especially the “just one nightcap but then you have to go home” stuff.

  • Ripp
    on October 26, 2011 at 4:39 am
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    Agree with YaReally.

    @ Anonymous: “white knight PUAs?” False analogy.

    Good & Evil is irrelevant terminology for the aspiring PUA. For the PUA is a hind-brain ninja pursuing the instinctual impulse to drain his balls in some slut.

    @Lord Valtrex: “it just happened” “I didn’t plan on this” “I don’t usually do this” “how did this happen” “he like, tricked me” and on and on and on…the hamster spins…


Virgle Kent
on October 25, 2011 at 4:37 pm
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You knew it was game on when he showed up for the date 20 minutes late…. isn’t that like chapter 1 page 2 of the PUA Bible?

[Heartiste: Yeah, forgot about that part. That's like the first line in the bible. "In the beginning, you show up late..."]

  • Ripp
    on October 26, 2011 at 4:52 am
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    This post comments have been fucking hilarious.

    [PUA Bible; Revelations] “After thee has blown thine load. Call cab, send her slutessness yonder, make sandwich…”

Rollo Tomassi
on October 25, 2011 at 5:17 pm
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Pay particular attention to the in depth self-analysis of the “inner voice” diatribe she’s admitting to not ignoring, but rather countermanding. This is female revisionist thinking in it’s rawest form.

There is simply no way she is cognitively sifting through all the social deprograming, feminist agitprop she’s been taught after 3 drinks, 3 venues and in the midst of a strong kiss against a wall. She’d have everyone believe that this subroutine of internal conflict was firing all the neural synapses in her brain, but the truth of the matter is she was autonomously deferring to her true biological impulse to fuck the Alpha and collect the seed; all other priorities rescinded.

I’d bet my next paycheck she was in the pro-phase of her ovulatory cycle at the time as well.

  • Ripp
    on October 26, 2011 at 4:55 am
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on October 25, 2011 at 9:25 pm
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It use to boogle my mind how women can attempt to rationalize their whore mongering ways and expect fucking sympathy.

The problem with the modern day, westernized woman is she does not want to be held accountable for her actions or behavior. Think of Jack Nicholson in As Good As It Gets when one the dim witted female cum dumpster characters ask Nicholson how he was able to write from the female perspective, and the oration he delivers is pure truth: I just think of a man and strip away all forms of accountability, responsibility, moral restraints, and so forth. I can’t do the line justice here, but please you tube the movie and that scene for those who haven’t seen the film. I have to admitt it was an eloquent adage of the psyche of the feminine perspective and world view.

I used to have some compassion for women, but know I realize without the bitterness that these menatlly unstable creatures are best served hot and wet, and left dripping jizz from their oral receptacles. Attempting to find a good woman for a wife in these days and times, that hasn’t had her hamster wheel realigned several times. Good Luck! But then again women don’t want goodmen, they want men that can give them a good time.

  • Ripp
    on October 26, 2011 at 5:06 am
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    “hamster wheel realigned several times” LOL

    In the Auto-Maintenance analogy of game, Big-O tires is like the beauty salon. Where the slurrs realign their hamster wheels by breathing hot air around the room.

on October 26, 2011 at 5:19 am
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Bravo. Great post, commentary and comedy.

Wish I could see pictures of this slurr. My instincts suggest a weathered but acceptably fuckable SMV-7.5, down from a solid 8 during her peak cock carouselling years.

Gentlemen, what SMV do these words project to you?

on October 26, 2011 at 11:24 am
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I am a 16 year-old Alpha-In-Training. I would like to speak out to those that are too insecure to go ahead and practice game, thinking they are inherently incapable of pulling a win.

For a long time, I was depressed and confused. To me, it was an indisputable truth that women and men were psychologically the same, a conclusion my mind reached from being bombarded with feminist propaganda (which is VERY strong here in Norway) touting how evil it was to think of men as superior in any way.

So it constantly confused and frustrated me that women were being treated not like actual equals, but as special snowflakes that could never be spoken harshly to, and why they kept jumping on the same macho-cock they denounced while I spent my nights alone. I kept rationalizing this by saying to myself women were only irrational and girly because of “Social Conditioning”.

Deep down, I knew this was BS, but I tried to convince myself of it because if it wasn’t true, it would mean I had to take the effort to become confident and masculine. Funny how the brain tries to avoid intellectual effort (hence, people clinging to ass-backwards religion). When I stumbled across CH, the bubble could withstand no more. For a few days, I was even more depressed and desperate. I had no chance, I thought.

But as I gathered the strength and discipline to start practicing game, my life almost instantly became less depressing and confusing. It’s very early days yet, but despite the lack of actual sex, results are extremely clear. Girls giggle in delight when I tease and slyly condescend them, taking charge of conversations, never holding back for fear of rejection.

I am working on a couple of chicks here at my school at the moment, two of which have BF’s. One of those chicks has a 23 year-old guy (she is 17), so I likely can’t get her, but that does not stop me from going right ahead with my game, and she clearly enjoys it. The other has a BF who seems intimidated by me (something I was at first baffled by – intimidated by ME?) when I talk to her. She turns her back on him as he jealously looks at her from a distance, rubbing her thighs and grinning at my pretty beginner-level alpha-maleness. Very soon, I will ask her out (as in; “Hey, I’M going to see this film, wanna come?”) and make a move.

I am a complete beginner. I have no natural alpha-ness and had to learn game manually. Even before having done anything too direct, results are very tangible. What was once cold politeness and dismissal is now body language that radiates arousal.

It’s easier than you think. Tell the woman in your head to get the fuck off that pedestal.

  • Ripp
    on October 27, 2011 at 6:49 am
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    Echoing Dan Fletcher’s comments:

    For finding this blog at your age, you, my young friend, are going to live an amazing life.

    I found this blog 4 months ago, and it has been the resource gold mine that continues to enlighten me and fuel my desire like no other.

    Always be learning. Always be applying new material. Always be closing.

    Now go ravish that hot scandinavian pussy. Keep us posted.

More Science Confirming Game Concepts: Long-Term Relationships Can Bring Out The Worst In Couples

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on October 24, 2011 at 7:01 pm
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The other night, the girl I’ve been seeing for the last 10 months says “Oh I’m going off the pill next month, I’ve been getting fat.”

Me: Hit the gym.

But clearly relationships ebb and flow….In these situations it’s best to keep a lower profile.

We now see each other about once a week, down from about 3 times a week.

In the meantime, I’m keeping in shape, going out, gaming other chicks.

The lesson I’ve learned since understanding game is never stand still…

  • Ripp
    on October 25, 2011 at 3:31 am
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    *Fist Bump*

    When objectives are completed, success fueled complacency is your worst enemy. Set new, more challenging objectives.

    Never stand still.

Sometimes The Best Game Is Silence

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on October 24, 2011 at 6:54 pm
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Great post.

Part of the effectiveness is the contrast it presents. The girl remembers you as someone who always had something cool to say, something interesting and suddenly there’s nothing.

No “neg” about herb…no neg about her hair…just silence.

I’ve been in this situation and when I smile but am not my usual cocky self, it’s a kind of let down that in the girl’s case gets her wondering: “Why was he so weird, is it because of the guy? Do I look different? ” and her hamster starts spinning they way most girls get neurotic.

Sometimes when I don’t respond to texts or Instant Messages, it evokes the same response…if my game was good or if I had presented myself as someone interesting and cocky and now have nothing to say….

  • King A
    on October 25, 2011 at 11:33 am
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    Yes, but isn’t the practical advice getting a little impressionistic at this point? If game is your frame, all moves — even beta mimicry! — can be considered an instance of pick-up mastery. “Vulnerability game,” “asshole game,” “direct game,” “indirect game” … the brand starts to dilute.

    The most important piece of testimony is his admission of imperfection, or “gamelock.” “One can’t be on top of [his] game all the time.” The abstract discussions on sites like these tend to misrepresent the importance of dealing with setbacks. In any sport, it’s more important knowing how to lose positively than it is to win, since losing is an inescapable element of any game. We learn far more from our (and other’s) fuck-ups than we do from successes.

    We are prone only to share our wins, or exaggerate mediocre experiences into tall tales, out of ego-puffery and insecurity. The irony is, the masters at the top of their game like CH are best positioned to share their failures, knowing that they have enough cred stored up not to damage their reputation. They can admit to the flaws in the artwork which lend a masterpiece its character, as opposed to the “flawless” schlock of ostensibly “perfect” representations, like a Leonardo original compared to a glossy photoshop.

    Anyway, great music is made in the silences. There is no more jarring “note” than the absence of one. It’s a cliche to say women like the strong silent type, and cliches are generally true. All the wordy chatty game advice forces dozens of techniques to roar through your head in the moment of truth, and our tendency is to kill the bunny rabbit dead dead dead with every weapon we have. But the laconic guy is the true impresario.

    You guys should incorporate zen into game. There’s your book title, Roissy. Zen and Game. Or, Game and Zen. It worked like gangbusters for that hippie fruitcake Robert Pirsig.

    • Ripp
      on October 26, 2011 at 5:52 am
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      “We are prone only to share our wins, or exaggerate mediocre experiences into tall tales, out of ego-puffery and insecurity.”

      Except you, Queen B. You don’t even have failures, let alone success. We can’t even give you a score- you’ve never even put on a uniform.

      Get your oxygen tank breathing, adult diaper-ass back in the bleachers, put on your telescope thick glasses and let the managers, coaches, staff and players, play the game. When the ball goes into the bleachers, your bitch ass can wheel over there and get it for us.

      I gracefully opt-out of Queen B’s “we” association.

      Yah, great reply. What brilliant insight. Like 70 years ago when you learned to ride a bike: you learned from your mistakes, right?

  • Ripp
    on October 26, 2011 at 5:58 am
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    Agreed. (After a quick bitch slap to Queen B)

    And sometimes that silence is a neg itself.

Sometimes The Best Game Is Silence

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Cock o'the Walk
on October 24, 2011 at 9:18 pm
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Shame she had to emasculate the herbster like that. You know she had the conversation with him about “saying hi” to an old friend as pretext but all three players understood the interaction for what it was. A meeting of a woman’s former and new male lovers is always a status contest.

  • Ripp
    on October 25, 2011 at 2:08 am
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    I’d qualify it a litter further as an ST (shit test) combo. Shit testing her current BF/date and her ex fling/date/BF simultaneously. She’s yearning to validate herself and stroke her ego by seeking positive attention from both men.

    Was in this exact situation 2 months ago (but I was the new guy).I was at bar, ex BF was outside at patio smoking cig. Slut8 comes to me at bar, “I want you to meet Rich, he’s really cool, come outside.”

    Ripp: “No.” [grab ass, turn shoulder, continue grubbin my appetizer]

on October 25, 2011 at 1:51 am
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The pregnant pause and expressionless face is gold. A multiple use tactic.

And IMO a more advanced tactic. Agree with the post in that if you can’t think of something to say, respond with silence. The body language is key here. Expressionless = you don’t give a shit. No sudden shifts in your BL to acknowledge her shit test frame. And this can work as a neg, AMOG, compliance test.

And I love adding a subtle but stinging “heh, dork” after.

Her: “hey Ripp how are you!? Haven’t seen you lately! This is my boyfriend, Sphen.”

Ripp: [very slightly raises head as she interupted my txting,lock eyes] [pregnant pause].

Her: [face goes from excitement to confusion to embarassment]

Ripp: “heh” [slowly look back down at my phone] “dork”.

Corporal Hicks
on October 25, 2011 at 9:29 am
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Silence means refusing to give your opponent ammunition.

“Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake.” – Napoleon

  • Ripp
    on October 26, 2011 at 7:14 am
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    Corporal Hicks (Michael Biehn), cool actor.

    Man, I love Aliens. What a great fucking movie. Hudson has to be my favorite (Bill Paxton):

    [drop ship crashes] “game over man, game over!”

Dan Fletcher
on October 25, 2011 at 12:31 pm
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This behavior will emerge organically from a strong frame. Someone enters into your kingdom, you may send envoys or you may ignore. It is of little consequence in the grand scheme of things.

Also, I find great pleasure in encountering a girl I have fucked/am fucking with her orbiters in tow. Around this time last year, I was sticking a lizard who was notorious for her stable of beta-bitch-orbiters. I observed two orbiters dutifully pecking and groveling at her feet. Without hesitation, I approached and wrapped my arm around her waist, greeted them with a shit-eating grin and held court. I dominated the conversation and tooled the orbiters. They nervously smiled and oozed supplication. When I had gotten my rocks off, I left as quickly as I had arrived.

Generally I am a moral person but something about other men being the eunich friends of a broad I am plowing gives me immense satisfaction.

  • Ripp
    on October 26, 2011 at 6:11 am
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    “I was sticking a lizard who was notorious for her stable of beta-bitch-orbiters. I observed two orbiters dutifully pecking and groveling at her feet…”

    LOL. Love the animal descriptions. I see this shit so much I can vividly image the “groveling pecking” assholes.

    Peck, Peck Peck, grovel, Peck, shit smile, Peck, grovel grovel.

Ex-Stripper Describes Her “Girl Game”

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on October 21, 2011 at 4:00 pm
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” a road-worn and tossed away wet ex-stripper single mom with enough cock notches on her vagina wall to make it look like a gynecological cave painting.)”

LOL love this line.

  • Maya
    on October 21, 2011 at 8:40 pm
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    Yeah, me too. So funny.

    • Ripp
      on October 22, 2011 at 7:35 pm
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      Me three. I laughed so hard I farted.

on October 21, 2011 at 5:26 pm
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Priceless prose:
“Although you have to wonder about the kind of man who would be willing to pony up big bucks for a useless rock and ceremony to geld himself by marrying a road-worn and tossed away wet ex-stripper single mom with enough cock notches on her vagina wall to make it look like a gynecological cave painting.”

“A woman with *clinically* low self-esteem, (as distinct from nearly all women who are told they have low self-esteem but in actuality are full of themselves)>..”
The late alpha male Carlos Castaneda said that self-victimization/low self-esteem is merely the shadow side of self-imporance/narcisism. It’s the same thing.

There’s lots more gold here, but what I want to know is this:

where do I get the kevlar condoms? If no such thing exists, somebody ought to invent one right quick. The market is begging for such innovation.

  • Miss_Fu
    on October 21, 2011 at 7:18 pm
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    “The late alpha male Carlos Castaneda said that self-victimization/low self-esteem is merely the shadow side of self-imporance/narcisism. It’s the same thing.”

    I have very low self-esteem, but I agree with this, though with shame. It is hard to admit to myself that the root of my problems is something as disgusting as narcissism. Realizing this is actually what has helped to boost my self-esteem a bit, ironically.

    • (r)Evoluzione
      on October 21, 2011 at 8:08 pm
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      Yes. People with low self-esteem feel they are ‘too good’ for their current life circumstances. They feel they deserve better than who and what they are, thus, the negative self-image.

      As you alluded to, radical self-acceptance is the key to transcending that. For myself, my low self esteem disintegrated once I realized that underneath my nice-guy exterior was an aloof asshole, and one that is in full possession of his darker instincts. Polite, PC feminized society teaches us to reject parts of ourselves and try to be something we’re not. Eliminate that, and the rest is easy.

      • Ripp
        on October 22, 2011 at 7:44 pm
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        Agreed. Great insight.

Ex-Stripper Describes Her “Girl Game”

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Steve Johnson
on October 21, 2011 at 5:57 pm
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Girl game is effective at manipulating exactly the kinds of men women desire the least.

I always thought this was exactly the point.

“Girl game” isn’t aimed at teaching girls skills in manipulating men it’s aimed at (indirectly) teaching girls to pick men that are in their league* and if it’s applied soon enough she’ll actually bond with the guy.

Pretty devious when you think about it.

* Girls would sooner pick men out of their league – those men don’t put up with “girl game” tactics. The men who stick around are those who aren’t.

[Heartiste: This is a bit contortionist, but I get your point. Nevertheless, when most women -- particularly aging single moms -- think about girl game, they think about how it will help them finally land that alpha male of their dreams.]

  • Anonymous
    on October 21, 2011 at 6:22 pm
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    [Heartiste: This is a bit contortionist, but I get your point. Nevertheless, when most women -- particularly aging single moms -- think about girl game, they think about how it will help them finally land that alpha male of their dreams.]

    Such projection.

    [Heartiste: That word doesn't mean what you think it means. But keep flailing. It amuses me.]

    All the old, worn out puss, weary women I’ve heard of just wants a guy to worship them.

    [Women want the love of a top dog. But only the hottest, youthful, feminine women have a shot at getting commitment from such men (who are, after all, much fewer in number than the demand for them). So women who are aging, or ugly, or fat, or burdened with spawn baggage, or generally unpleasant to be around, will have to settle for lesser men who will have them. Or remain single. And the further a woman's SMV is damaged, the more she has to settle. She of course will spin this settling as something she wanted to do all along, but those of us who are vivisectors of the human condition know better. Heh heh heh.]

    And if anything, to be rich/ able to provide.

    [You seem to be under the mistaken belief that only betas are rich providers. Step outside the house sometime.]

    They don’t want some charming alpha male.

    [And men don't want some hardbody 10 either. *off sarcasm*]

    They’ve had their fun with those before and they are over it.

    [Keep telling yourself that.]

    It seems to benefit all involved.

    [Somewhere a divorce raped beta wept.]

    The beta finally gets a girl who may be a (fainting) beauty.

    [Your mistake is in believing betas want "fainting" beauties. They don't. They want peak beauties, unsullied by numerous cocks. But since they are betas they will settle for the dregs of womanhood. Or porn. Which, btw, is what we are seeing happen today in our society currently in a state of advanced decay. Porn, video games, delayed marriage and fertility clinics as far as the eye can see.]

    The alphas don’t have to deal with old cougars and get the young, bubblies they desire.

    [The betas don't want to deal with the old cougars either.]

    The old women get to have had their fun and now get security.

    [So certain r u?]

    I’m not sure why this concept upsets you so?

    [Silly cougar, I'm not upset. I'm having a grand time watching you spin your delusions.]

    Are you a beta getting old puss left overs?

    [Is that any way to describe your charms?]

    • Mats
      on October 21, 2011 at 8:50 pm
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      Female “Anonymous” says:

      All the old, worn out puss, weary women I’ve heard of just wants a guy to worship them.

      There is a glaring diference between what they SAY and what they WANT.

      You seem to assume that the women you met (aging, probably ugly, baggage-ed, worn out) will really come out clean and say they wanted someone (alpha) they know thay have no chance in grabing.

      • Ripp
        on October 22, 2011 at 7:59 pm
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        Of Women: It will never stop amazing me what their culturally programmed frontal lobes SAY to try and convince otherwise what attraction triggers their hind brains RESPOND too.

        ~4 hours after first date meetup:

        [Ripp pumps, pulls out, blows load on her face]

        Her: “I don’t usually do this”

        Ripp: “heh” [goes downstairs to make sandwich]

Ex-Stripper Describes Her “Girl Game”

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on October 22, 2011 at 8:21 pm
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I always enjoy the CH’s evisceration of femicunt delusional contrive.

It’s like chlorine in the pool of vaginal discharge mentality. Refreshing.

Comment Of The Week: The Natural State Of Woman Is Submission

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on October 20, 2011 at 7:55 pm
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Also explains why so many girls I meet love doggy-style position. It’s the ultimate in submission.

  • Ripp
    on October 21, 2011 at 11:02 pm
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    Doggy-style. Awesome.

    Doggy-style in the ass. Fucking awesome.

    Reverse cow-girl anal: Artistically fucking awesome.

on October 20, 2011 at 8:49 pm
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Even when the balance does begin to come back around women will still feel like we are missing out on *something*. Inherently we understand that, not only are we weaker, we are not as intelligent or often times, as interesting. We see the men congregate, the bonds that you form, the things you create and we know, deep down, that most of us will never have that. We can be a part of it by supporting our husbands doing these things. If we are intelligent enough and can learn to keep our mouths shut we may even be allowed into the group to at least listen and even sometimes comment. However, we will never be a part of what it is to be MAN.

As a (maybe silly) example. I was watching 13 Assassins a couple of weeks ago and a band of 13 samurai strangers band together to kill a man. WIthin days these men were bonded in a way that woman are incapable of. Some of us do see that and crave that. However, we also understand that if these men were stupid enough to allow a woman in, the entire thing would be finished, merely by her presence and she ruined what she wanted to be a part of by her presence. The best we can hope for is to be outliers, supporters of this. It is a noble place to be and arguably even necessary. But, deep down, we know it is never the same and this can be a very difficult thing to come to terms with.

  • Miss_Fu
    on October 21, 2011 at 12:45 am
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    Well said.

    • Ripp
      on October 21, 2011 at 10:58 pm
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      Yes. Thanks ladies.

      As a practicing “gamer” or, “asshole player” I do indeed embrace the very, sadly very few honest and true women that exhibit knowledge.

      You can further support this by educating the young and fertile women that you have influence over. And the beta men. Of course, so as long as you are not chastising yourself socially or within family constraints. I do understand the difficulty of openly advocating this knowledge.

Comment Of The Week: The Natural State Of Woman Is Submission

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on October 21, 2011 at 5:43 pm
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Pffft. King A is an omega keyboard PUA whose only success with women exists in his dreams.

  • Ripp
    on October 21, 2011 at 11:25 pm
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    “King A is an omega keyboard PUA”
    No, because calling him a PUA would be a compliment to him, and an insult to the community.

    King A is the King of Mental Masturbation.

    [Mental Masturbation]
    The concept that what you THINK is happening is really just a fantasy about what you want rather than the reality of what has occurred, is occurring, or will occur.

Comment Of The Week: The Natural State Of Woman Is Submission

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on October 22, 2011 at 12:10 am
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Queen B: Buzz off.

While I enjoy reading some of the discussions regarding the genesis of today’s challenge with female pedestalization, it’s time to kick King A off of his.

King A is well read with respect to history, philosophy, Oxford’s thesaurus and probably has 8 pages of bookmarks in his browser from various historical authors. Fine. Here’s a cookie.

Whenever there is an opportunity to make a claim about the socioeconomic-politico-philosophical outer most rung of “game”, King A will surely rise to the occasion. And will contrive some interesting long winded prose- most of which consists of unnecessary banter to exhibit his vocabulary. Sometimes there is no clear point at all. Most of the time the point could be made in a just a few sentences.

Argumentum Verbosium
Folks don’t be awed or afraid of big words and long writings. It is simply, just that.

Now when other CH posts are made regarding mid-level and low-level topics relating to game, seduction, strategy, methodology, tactics, experiences, field reports, gambits, interesting questions, inquires from beginners, suggestions of other resources, etc. King A is either not coming to class that day, or pops out and trolls with baseless comments. And provides no other suggestions or solutions, or bases any of his claims from shared experience(s).

Why is that? I’ll tell you why: He has no game. He’s never had any game. And he has never tried or applied anything. = Has no experiences to show for.

sedit qui timuit ne non succederet

  • n/a
    on October 23, 2011 at 7:14 am
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    This is unfair to the admittedly windy KA. He’s an older gentleman drawn to just those outermost philosophical rungs of game that you oddly discount.

    This blog’s incitement to philosophy, whether it shows itself in the pontificating orotundities of KA or the shrewd moralizing mock-babble of his jester-twin GBFM, is a good thing.

    CH is almost as much an anti-feminist blog as it is a pure game blog. This is not Rooshville. CH goes beyond that (excellent) site; it answers to a wider interest and a greater rigor.

    Variety is the spice.

    • Ripp
      on October 24, 2011 at 5:14 pm
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      Fairness? Irrelevant.

      “older gentleman”
      I estimate ~60yrs. Further solidifying my point. IF (if) he did have success with women, it was a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away. Jerking off jaw wahs for used droid parts doesn’t count.

      “outermost philosophical rungs of game that you oddly discount”
      I’ve made no statements to suggest this. On the contrary it’s of great interest to me.

      Agree with your other statements.

      To simplify: King A brings argument to the outer rung of game (as we’ve titled it) and is educated, academically, to do so. However when baseless comments are made by him in the APPLIED arena of game, and are clearly wrong and inconsistent with reality, I will call him out. Again, in APPLIED game King A is a [Mental Masturbator]. He should be asking questions to learn, and sharing experiences to support. Maybe he can learn a gambit to talk Granny Thelma out of her diapers.

      Variety of hot pussy is the spice.

      • King A
        on October 25, 2011 at 1:08 pm
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        I must be Ripp’s estranged dad.

        Son, there are only so many ways of proclaiming how uninterested I am in qualifying myself to you before I simply shut you off. This reply is a work of mercy, my child. Take a step outside of yourself for a moment and consider the true worth of your obsessive-compulsion.

        Don’t you realize what your manic criticism makes you? It makes you my bitch. You allow your resentment to control you to such a degree that you become purely reactive to another man. I would appreciate the criticism if it weren’t so transparently indicative of your own little issues that no one cares about.

        And my interests are clearly broader than yours. Admirable as Roosh is in a certain way (or Eric Markovic or Owen Cook), I have zero desire to live their life. That you and the majority of this niche readership wish to emulate your superiors in one narrow regard is just peachy. Vaya con Dios, muchachos.

        CH has wisely shielded the most important elements of his identity from groupies like you for a similar reason: he does not want his hobby to become his identity or raison d’etre the way it so happily dominates his legions of imitators.

        I’m not knocking a man’s choices — in fact they may be the best available to a fellow, and more power to him. I am simply saying there may be superior strategies based on higher goals.

        Now you can take exception to my goals, you can call them delusional, you can claim there is nothing higher than the reproductive imperative and we are all just tussling around down here in the muck. That’s usually what these disagreements devolve into. I won’t quibble with the ultimate ends that motivate you and the PUAs who name themselves after fictional characters, except to flatly deny that they are a terribly good (or even a sustainable) reason to live.

        Yay! you cuckolded a trust-fund brat’s hair-trigger whore of girlfriend (or likelier, friend with benefits). Start a blog. Pick a debonair nickname. Post updates on how Large you are Living. Charge admission. Chumps will pay.

        I like your discovery of the purposes of Latin, btw. Very classy. I think you’re elevating your rhetoric game. You’re welcome.

        • Ripp
          on October 26, 2011 at 6:54 am
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          “only so many ways of proclaiming how uninterested I am in qualifying myself to you before I simply shut you off”
          Yet you reply, and continue qualifying yourself…

          “Don’t you realize what your manic criticism makes you? It makes you my bitch. You allow your resentment to control you to such a degree that you become purely reactive to another man.”
          You sound upset. You ok? So you were saying something about being reactive…

          “Admirable as Roosh is in a certain way (or Eric Markovic or Owen Cook), I have zero desire to live their life”
          Exactly my point. And you haven’t. You’re a [Mental Masturbator] of Applied Game.

          “CH has wisely shielded the most important elements of his identity from groupies like you for a similar reason: he does not want his hobby to become his identity or raison d’etre the way it so happily dominates his legions of imitators.”
          Assumption. Irrelevant.

          “Now you can take exception to my goals, you can call them delusional, you can claim there is nothing higher than the reproductive imperative and we are all just tussling around down here in the muck”
          Straw King, I haven’t made those statements. Again, simply: you are purely ignorant in the subject-matter of applied game.

          “ends that motivate you and the PUAs who name themselves after fictional characters, except to flatly deny that they are a terribly good (or even a sustainable) reason to live”
          Do you tell yourself this every year, the only time you fuck your fugly wife, to make yourself feel better?

          “Yay! you cuckolded a trust-fund brat’s hair-trigger whore of girlfriend (or likelier, friend with benefits).”
          I’m sure I have. Would you like to see pictures?

          “Start a blog.”
          In progress.

          “Pick a debonair nickname.”
          Hi Queen B, I’m Ripp. Nice to expose you as the fumbling retard you are.

          “Post updates on how Large you are Living. Charge admission. Chumps will pay.”
          I will give you 50% off, for being King Chump.

          “I think you’re elevating your rhetoric game. You’re welcome.”
          Yes, but light years behind the soporific awe of yours. Thanks.

          Concede, my friend. You have lost this battle.

Revisiting AMOG Tactics

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on October 18, 2011 at 1:07 pm
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The link on boyfriend destroyers is sociopathic stuff, just the way i like it.

  • King A
    on October 18, 2011 at 5:42 pm
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    I don’t see the sociopathy. All I see is bad screenwriting and fantasy.

    The witty conversationalist gets the girl in the movies. Life is not a movie.

    Repartee is an important weapon in the arsenal, but posts like these overestimate its importance. They give off the impression that all you need to master a social dynamic is The Comedian’s Guide to Handling Hecklers.

    What ever happened to the deep PUA-community truth that recognizes women do not respond to conversational content so much as tone and demeanor?

    The old familiar truths are not dramatic or novel enough to constantly repeat in blog posts.

    • Ripp
      on October 19, 2011 at 8:15 am
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      Since you have the audacity to denounce tactics written by Tyler Durden, perhaps you can share with the group some of your own? Please also include specifics on tone and demeanor.

      Or maybe share with us just one personal story of how you overcame an AMOG?

      • Trimegistus
        on October 19, 2011 at 10:04 am
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        I see what he means: a list of “snappy answers to stupid questions” isn’t enough, and mentally scripting out how you WISH conversations will go just paralyzes you when they don’t. Attitude can save you when the script breaks down.

        I would say the best attitude to have (and the hardest one to develop) is to not care if a fight breaks out. Seriously: whenever a male vs. male contest develops, there’s that little voice in the back of your head saying “what if he wants to fight?”

        Just a few weeks of martial arts or boxing lessons can make a big difference, because you won’t be quite so nervous about “getting into a fight.” Boxing more so than most martial arts because boxing helps you get past the big psychological hurdles of 1) getting hit (in the face, most likely) and 2) making yourself hit someone else.

        Spend a few evenings at boxing lessons, let some Mexican guy punch you in the face a few times, punch the Mexican guy back, and you won’t be nervous because some fratboy’s feeling aggressive at the bar.

        • Ripp
          on October 19, 2011 at 7:28 pm
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          So you’re saying non-verbal communication really matters? WOW!!! Um, yah bro. New here?

A.B. Dada
on October 18, 2011 at 1:18 pm
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Dealing with AMOGs is vital if you’re in PUA mode, but if you’re not looking for a pump and dump, AMOGs can change from competitor to colleague for the better. One of my business partners is a previous AMOG who became a friend since I wasn’t looking to snatch his girl.

Game helps in way more than just picking up random sluts at bars — it helps with dealing with employers and co-workers, friends and family, and your wife and kids. Those are situations where you won’t face AMOGs typically, but being confident in yourself will allow others to admire you, even adore you, with no sexual goal in the needs department.

  • King A
    on October 18, 2011 at 3:58 pm
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    Like A.B. says, confronting and neutralizing is good, but co-opting is better. Top-level mastery sublimates primitive pissing contests into true pack-leader assertion. You win the lesser conflict (which may be physical) by elevating it to a higher conflict (which is social).

    Neturalizing rather than co-opting competition is a common theme on this blog and elsewhere. Pick-up advice is too skewed in the direction of lone-wolf dynamics rather than pack dynamics. True alpha behavior does not just focus on gina tingles and the effects on women; it focuses on the overall social interplay, which includes other men. The alpha orders the chaotic community under his commanding presence.

    Deal with these conflicts by elevating them into an area of leadership in which they cannot compete. If you don’t know how to befriend a sloppy, hotheaded instinct-alpha sniffing around your pack, you are too vag-o-centric. A good example is the Swingers scene where Sue attempts resolving a challenge directly (with a gun), while the true alpha Trent co-opts the challengers (the technique is not shown, but the true-to-life results are).

    Mike: “What are they doing here?” ["They" being their former attackers now playing video hockey in their apartment]

    Sue: “Oh, no, no, it’s totally cool, man. We saw ‘em that night at Roscoe’s. Trent cleared it up. I apologized, bought ‘em some chicken and waffles. It’s totally fine. They fuckin’ love T, man. That boy can talk.”

    This obviously calls for a higher level of mastery, but it should be the end-goal for any alpha aspirant.

    The snarky cutesy sarcastic verbal-jousting suggested by Tyler Durden actually lowers you to the interloper’s level in a subtle way. Arm wrestling? The obvious joke doesn’t conceal your essential wussitude. It declares that you are about avoiding escalation and conflict, rather than addressing it squarely.

    • Ripp
      on October 19, 2011 at 8:21 am
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      The only example I’ve ever seen you muster up to support your point is a scene from a movie?

      “All I see is bad screenwriting and fantasy.” (Your words from your comment above).


      • King A
        on October 21, 2011 at 4:27 pm
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        Holy shit, dude. Ease down with the Rain Man Call For Examples.

        We cite movies because 1) they are accessible to everyone and 2) they make a clearer point than the mixed muddle of real-world examples. I commended Durden’s commentary above for that reason. They are not flawed as didactic tools, just limited.

        We don’t have an anecdote of the week like some Robert Evans of game. Nor does he, nor do you, I suspect.

        We do not fancy ourselves the Second Coming of Mystery Moskowitz (or whatever monstrum in nomine he so dorkily rechristened himself out of); in fact specialists like that are grotesque half-men, like young gymnast girls so dedicated to their sport that they delay puberty. We admire their accomplishments for what they are, which is maybe one-tenth of a life lived in full. We forget this in a forum so obsessively dedicated to a single subject.

        I am happy to see my lifelong intuitions about the war of the sexes articulated well and without fear in places like these. I am satisfied confirming their truth through experience and metaphor and art, and thereby adding to the treasury of knowledge for other men to use as they may. I encourage everyone to post real-life examples of how game has worked in their lives. Testify to the faith, brothers! Can I get a witness! But you’re a fool to think this constitutes the chief part, or even the most important part, of the credibility of game.

        Most examples that even the most active PUAs can cite will come across as mundane to the point of irrelevance. That’s not because we are blowhards and exaggerators, or hypocrites speaking out of school. That’s because — and listen closely here — life does not arrange itself into perfect just-so stories.

        Moreover, the fabulist tendency of locker room talk makes Field Reporting not the most reliable assessment of a person’s value to the conversation. In fact, those who are least given to Big Fish Stories are usually your most reliable narrators. They have nothing to prove to a Mr. Clarence F. Ripp from Youngstown, Ohio. Your obsession-compulsion about the cred of everyone you read tells us how insecure you are about your own.

        Go here and read about “exigencies.” under the header “What I did”:

        Then go look up “exigencies.”

        • Ripp
          on October 23, 2011 at 10:10 am
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          Queen B,

          You’re big word lecture of random irrelevant commentary is yet another dodge of the issue. To be clear, I’m directly challenging your experience, thus your credability.

          I’m simply asking you to provide a personal story about an AMOG situation you encountered, and what you did about it.

          To be fair, and in return, you can ask me any question about my game experiences.

          Perhaps we can learn from one another.

    • YaReally
      on October 19, 2011 at 10:47 pm
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      Tyler’s tactics aren’t meant for handling your social circle of weak beta males and vague AMOGs to get the average cute girl that a couple quiet guys have a crush on and that you see every week when your group is hanging out at the bar together.

      Just be a cool chill guy for that, like you describe.

      His tactics are meant for walking into exclusive high-end nightclubs as a complete nobody and taking done up popular socially savvy super-confident chicks off of guys who buy them trips to Europe and invite them to after-parties at their mansions in Beverly Hills and are connected with half the city’s nightlife etc. These guys will try to tool you on your clothes, money, job, travel, etc.

      They’re also meant for taking the hottest girls in the club who are surrounded by meat-head jocks buying them drinks all night and scaring off their competition with headlocks and aggression. These guys will try to physically tool you.

      If you’re going for the lone 2 or 3 set that’s hanging out at the bar not really chit-chatting with anyone, awesome, you’ll get girls out of it with way less risk and there’ll be some decent ones in the batch.

      But if you haven’t run into actual AMOGs, then you haven’t left the bar at 2am with the hottest girl on your arm and tried to flag down a cab. :)

      • King A
        on October 21, 2011 at 3:39 pm
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        YaReally wrote: “His tactics are meant for walking into exclusive high-end nightclubs as a complete nobody and taking done up popular socially savvy super-confident chicks off of guys who buy them trips to Europe and invite them to after-parties at their mansions in Beverly Hills and …” etc., etc.

        Right. His lessons are narrowly focused on a hyper-specific situation. I was speaking more broadly. Life is more than a parody of James Bond at the casino.

        Hey, you got me. What can I say? Pulling off a jewel heist is fun to think about and do and then exaggerate and brag about, but I won’t kid you: it’s not the focus of my life. If I spy an opportunity, I’ll take it with the skills I have; but I’m not seeking out a big game safari to impress internet blabberers with my collection of rhino heads. Those ashen-faced dudes at game workshops strike me as repulsively sorry creatures, completely unaware of the rigid limits that exist beyond their expensively purchased, contrived “frame.”

        I would think that most readers here are more interested in applicable advice, not just long-shot chances at the high-risk/high-reward holy grails of game. Or maybe they still dream about being an NFL walk-on, too. Each to his own.

        You’re falling into a bad rhetorical trap, though. The world that exists outside of your tinseltown imagination is not by definition a “social circle of weak beta males and vague AMOGs.” Part of the lazy critic’s M.O. is to imagine anyone who disagrees with him out to be the precise target for his counterpoint.

        What, say, Neil Strauss did (or what some Canadian Owen Cook does) is not rocket science. If that impresses you — or worse, if that’s what you assume must impress everyone interested in game — then you’ve consigned yourself to a very limited field of expertise against which I find it pointless to argue.

        • YaReally
          on October 21, 2011 at 4:40 pm
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          “Part of the lazy critic’s M.O. is to imagine anyone who disagrees with him out to be the precise target for his counterpoint.”

          “but I’m not seeking out a big game safari to impress internet blabberers with my collection of rhino heads. Those ashen-faced dudes at game workshops strike me as repulsively sorry creatures”

          Are you reading what you write? lol

          “His lessons are narrowly focused on a hyper-specific situation.”

          It’s not hyper-specific if you don’t want it to be. That’s like saying a boxer trains for only a hyper-specific situation. But the boxer goes to gyms, signs up for fights, watches fights on TV, and overall trains a lot. It’s not a hyper-specific situation for him because he puts himself in that environment. You not wanting to get off the couch and put down the Doritos and hit a punching bag takes nothing away from his art.

          “but I’m not seeking out a big game safari to impress internet blabberers with my collection of rhino heads.”

          How about seeking out a big game safari to live up to your full potential as a man for yourself? How about striving to be the best version of yourself and crafting your life into something better than average normal people settle for? How about wanting to be the best you can be in all areas of life?

          You, King A, are a dabbler. Your comments and overall attitude scream it:

          All you do is piddle around in something to get enough experience to wax philosophical on it and argue with people about it, and then you bail. Yellow belt in Karate (train till you’re a blackbelt), “learning verbal game is too hard for new people” (go out and get embarrassed by fucking up some conversations and learning to take social pressure), “mastering pickup is too hyper-specific and sad” (seek out and hit on hotter girls), “it’s not plausible to be witty in stressful situations” (take an improv class and go out more), “that’s too many balls to juggle in the air at once” (train enough that you gain unconscious competance and you’re no longer juggling balls the way you’re no longer thinking “breathe in, now breathe out”).

          You are completely satisfied with being mediocre and avoiding any tough challenges while rationalizing that you’ve mastered “enough” of it to “get it”, and most of what you do seems to be done purely for the benefit of appearances and coming across like you’re well-versed and knowledgable in a variety of subjects.

          But just like I can tell from your posts that you have no game and don’t go out and regularly pick up girls, a Karate blackbelt would be able to tell you don’t really know how to fight if you were on a blog about fighting and arguing what happens during a fight.

          You are inexperienced with pickup and gorgeous women and it radiates, but the worst part is that overall you appear to have surrounded yourself in walls of limiting beliefs, rather than addressing challenges and taking them on.

          I hope that one day you try chipping away at some of those walls, because every man has a ton of potential in them but men with your attitude and beliefs are people who end up wasting that potential.

          You could be so much more than you’re settling for. :)

          • Ripp
            on October 23, 2011 at 8:58 am
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            “But just like I can tell from your [King A] posts that you have no game and don’t go out and regularly pick up girls”

            YaReally *Fist Bump*

            You nailed it, 100%.

on October 19, 2011 at 8:42 am
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There is too much mental masturbation going on with the replies here. I have to call it out: Look guys, if you object to the content of the post at least back up your claim with some type of example, story, experience etc. Then offer your tactic or gambit or maneuver or bird call or whatever the fuck it is you do to AMOG.

Simply writing “no this won’t work it doesn’t sound right or whatever” is weak and a glarring indicator you’re farting out your keyboard.

on October 19, 2011 at 9:05 am
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Straight up: If you’re not getting AMOGed when you’re out at a busy venue with your date, she’s not that hot. Or the set you’re talking to isn’t that hot.

The best methodology I’ve ever come across regarding AMOG is credit to Asian Playboy:


(In that order of priority).

I’d say the high majority of AMOGing can be accomplished by befriending (~80%), why? = most men are beta. Before I started studying game I use to call it “out nice-ing” the guy. This was during my college years and getiing AMOGed happened all the time. Simply I would befriend or “out nice” the threat by making friends. He’d end up liking me because I’d dominate the conversation and frame and get to know him, then be cool and say “cool to meet you man” then roll off with my chic. It’s very easy to make guy friends. If you can’t do this, you have much work to do before gaming hot women.

As it states. The AMOG doesn’t exist. Don’t look at him, don’t acknowledge him, at all. If logistics favor then turn your back to him so you are still facing the target. Don’t mention him to the target. Hold your frame with the target. If/when AMOG tries to interupt, slighty amplify your voice and hold frame, keep the target’s attention on you and your conversation. If you’re doing this right, the AMOG will blow himself out by akwardness.

The last resort. Rarely have had the need to do this. But have, and it can be risky. But also it can be fucking hilarious. Mystery’s guy Matador has a good video of some tool moves on You Tube. I don’t feel like digging it up now, but it’s worth a search if you want to see some smooth AMOG gambits. Essentially you make fun of the AMOG so as long as it doesn’t hurt your game with the target and fleshes out the betaness of the threat (makes him flustered, frustrated, irritated, annoyed).

I’ll provide some recent stories in another post.

  • YaReally
    on October 19, 2011 at 11:16 pm
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    “Straight up: If you’re not getting AMOGed when you’re out at a busy venue with your date, she’s not that hot. Or the set you’re talking to isn’t that hot.”

    Quoted for fucking truth lol There are a lot of “players” out there getting laid left and right by average to decent chicks at the bar, or picking up gorgeous chicks outside of the bar environment by doing day game or social circle game and not taking those girls all dolled up out to busy party venues.

    And that’s cool, good on ‘em for getting laid. But they’re not playing the same game some of us are. :)

    Nice to see someone else on here who actually goes out instead of argues KJ-theory.

    • Ripp
      on October 23, 2011 at 9:27 am
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      Again, YaReally *Fist Bump*.

      AMOGing isn’t some meathead mexican standoff every time. Like it’s gunna end up in a brawl so you need be a fucking ninja, break bricks on your head and prepare for a UFC match…*just in case*.

      Honestly in my experience, most of the time it’s just a harmless beta dude that has some liquid courage and goes to talk to the hot chic. If it’s your chic, sometimes I just cold read, look at body language, determine he’s beta and let him betafy himself out. [Ignore].

      Quick story: was on a date, SMV7, nice long legs, athletic ass and waist, nice rack, plain face. I go to piss, come back to find a dude pecking and shit smiling at my date talking about where she works (nerd). All I did was sit down and say “what’s up man”. And he fuckin rolled over on his belly like a fuckin puppy dog in submmission. Apologized to me, to her, got nervous, rambled, stuttered. Explained why he was talking to her, told me “I’m sorry man, I knew someone was sitting here, I saw the 2nd glass…” it was kinda sad and pathetic. I just said/did nothin, he left.

The Four Month Flake

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on October 17, 2011 at 4:16 pm
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Seems like this was an exception and not the rule. Yes, you turned the tables but (1) doesn’t calling 4 months later make you look a little needy and (2) are there many other instances where this worked for you?

  • Ripp
    on October 18, 2011 at 7:09 am
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    “doesn’t calling 4 months later make you look a little needy”

    No. Here’s why:

    Think of game like exposures from a camera to the target (you being the camera.) The only exposures she got were alpha, attraction triggering exposures. So 4 months went on. Irrelevant. Now if he ‘exposed’ a beta/needy voice mail frame, that would indeed be needy. However it was not:

    “Hi. It’s [Name redacted, or IgnatiusJReilly if you prefer]. It’s been a while since we met. Call me.”

    Neutral, solid, short, decisive, directing. (the tone, pace, pauses and inflection of the voice are the most important, although we can’t hear them, i have faith in thee ye olde heartiste.)

on October 17, 2011 at 6:14 pm
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This is timely for me because of something that just happened yesterday. I chatted up a girl (HB8) at a coffee shop. Got lots of IOI and we talked vaguely about getting together again sometime, though she hedged about the upcoming week because she’s in the middle of exams. For reasons I won’t bore you with, I have her my number but did not get hers. I told her to text me when she’s ready. I figured it was 50/50 that she would contact me.

Last night I get a text from an unfamiliar number that I assume is her:

“Sorry. Commuting and school is taking it out of me. Don’t have the capacity for much else right now.”

I responded with “Who is this?” Then “Wait, is this HB8?”

I didn’t hear back from her. So now I’m thinking I’ll wait a couple weeks and ask her about Halloween plans. In our conversation she mentioned she might go to a concert but wasn’t sure she wanted to. So maybe I can suggest an alternative?

Or should I wait even longer? I think she’s interested, otherwise why even bother to text me in the first place?

  • A.B. Dada
    on October 17, 2011 at 8:47 pm
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    I hate to say it — and I hope someone calls me out on this if they disagree — but to me that’s a nice blow off, but it is a blow off.

    She apologizes for not being into you enough.

    She gives an excuse for why she’s not into you enough.

    My translation:

    “Sorry I’m not into you enough. I could say that commuting and school is taking it out of me, but I’m not into you enough. Don’t have the capacity for much else right now, unless a guy comes around who I’m really into.”

    She likely COULD be really busy — that may be truthful, but I’ve dated women in college who were supremely busy, and they always made time to see me if they were into me enough.

    I wouldn’t press it. You sent a response, she didn’t write back. Now the ball is in her court.

    Guys always complain when a woman flakes and fades without reason — in this case, she DID at least say she was too busy to date (you).

    Don’t get ONEITIS. Aim for 3 more just like her.

    • Ripp
      on October 18, 2011 at 5:43 am
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      My 2 cents:

      1st Mistake: giving her your #, and not getting hers.

      Her txt was just a polite “not interested”, the fact she texted is, well, infrequent, but polite. Your benefit: you now have her #.

      The excuse that any women gives, NEVER take seriously. EVER. Doesn’t matter if she’s the fucking mayor’s executive assistant. If she is into you, she will make the time.

      As AB said, don’t trap yourself in ONEITIS.

      -Stick her number in what I like to call “cold rotation”. Txt her in about 1 – 3 months. Move on immediately to prospect new targets.

      Cold openers I use:
      > “wanted to touch base in case you got rich” (credit: Artisan)
      > “I swear I met your twin the other day”
      > “hey [name] good to see u at [fun event]” (implying you have 2 or 3 of the same name’s in your contact list. might be hard with a weird name)

      notice they are all statements. I have different strategies for response times and 2nd and 3rd tier txts…but too much to go into…

Prime Alpha
on October 17, 2011 at 8:42 pm
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Flaking is not attractive per se. It only “works” on people already attracted to the flaking party. Ergo – The initial approach attracted her, in which case you could have easily met with her the same week.

In fact – the strength and attraction built in the INITIAL APPROACH is what allowed you to flake, and NOT the flaking itself, which was attractive. Further more, your successfully succint answer as to why you flaked is what allowed her to get over it – again – the flaking itself is NOT the reason she is attracted.

The only reason to flake on a girl is if you are already seeing several other girls at the time, or one girl you really fancy, if that is your style. Flaking itself is not a tactic, and I would beware speaking of it as such, especially to the unordained.

There is a difference between attraction and driving-crazy. The latter you can ONLY do on someone already attracted. So while flaking CAN drive someone crazy – I will admit that much, as I was both on the giving and recieving end – it does NOT attract in and of itself. In fact, in order for flaking to drive one crazy, attraction is a PREREQUISIT.

[Heartiste: I disagree. Flaking IS a female attractant on its own merits (or demerits). It subcommunicates higher value. The man who flakes (at least in the beginning) is perceived as a man who doesn't feel much need to invest in her, and thus as a man with options. In LTRs, flakiness can quickly become beta, because it erodes a primary LTR attraction for women -- namely, a strong solid reliable alpha presence.]

  • Ripp
    on October 18, 2011 at 6:58 am
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    Ok, had to get that out.


    Women flake, all the time, for no reason. Women will flake on other women, their friends, they will even flake on their OWN set plans. So in essence, they flake on themselves. They just do. It’s part of their illogical, irrational, emotional driven bullshit generator.

    My token response to a flake is “no response.” Silence. Crickets. Nothing. No call, no txt. And very rarely have I ever purposely set up a flake, at this moment I can’t think of a time. I do need to try this tactic and see how it plays out for myself. So I can’t draw from experience to agree/disagree with the tactic.

    After a flake I usually wait 3 days, ignore all calls or txts incoming (if any) and open a new thread via txt at sometime on the third day. The content of the txt will vary, I will even go as ballsy as to setup a meet: “i’m available tonight, meet me ~9ish”. I’ve had some success with this. I gauge this by the prior compliance history.

    The frame I set is always very aloof, neutral and peculiar. Any txt along those lines:
    “hey wanted to ask u something”
    “checked out [new venue]?”
    “please shower today -management”

    Then when/if I receive a reply, I ignore for at least a day.

    If I know them from the outer social circle, or something about them, I’ll make up some shit along those lines in my txt.

    With the above method I’ve had great success with getting the chic back into compliance so I can continue tractor-beaming her to make out with my dick.

    I’ve had all kinds of strange bounce backs:
    -chic goes silent for 2 weeks, then calls
    -chic complies to a new date right away
    -chic calls and apologizes on 3rd day
    -chic goes silent for years, then emails out of blue (yes true story)
    -run into chic out at bar, take her home then
    -chic disappears forever
    -find out chic has a boyfriend (heh)
    -chic flakes again, but remains in high compliance (so strange)
    -chic finally gets back to me and nexts me for illogical reason
    -chic goes cold then I re-open with cold rotation and eventually meet a few months down the road.

    My inner game frames:
    1) Never react or respond to a flake. Give it no energy, and it will have none.
    2) Never get outwardly angry/mad/upset/frustrated or any other beta display to the chic, ever. She will never know that I even gave a shit.(that means no addressing the flake, no asking about it, etc. bury it. even if she brings it up, you forgot.)
    3) Chics are random when committing to a meet. This can also work IN YOUR FAVOR, thus her choosing to kick it with you instead of beta guy, or BF or family, or nail appt. etc.

    Lastly I want to mention a great shit-test counter measure and knowledge mining tactic:
    You’re out with a girl you are gaming. She’s on her phone txting then shit tests you with something like “god this guy I met the other day and gave him my number always txts me.” or “my ex bf is so mean, he gets mad if i dont call him back” or “so random this guy i dated a month ago just txt me.” OR whatever…you get the idea.

    My suggestion: Embrace it. Inquire about it. Ask them about the guy. “was he cool?” “what did you like about him?” “why did you stop seeing him?” “don’t be rude, at least txt him back.” “what did you do to make your ex BF so mad?” “how is he annoying you?” “what did he say…is he a tool?”

    I stand firmly by this because I have had so much success with it. And from this I get inside the mind of the “flakey chic.” I’m so cool and so casual about her orbiters and “other guys” that she is comfortable spilling her pretty little beans. And now you can USB 3.0 directly into her dome and get some insight about her and what’s going on in her world. Her txting patterns. etc. You can also use this thread to talk about “annoying chics” etc. However the best transition for this shit test counter measure is to inquire about the sexual relations with the guys, delicately, if she hooks then perfect. You’re talking about cock and cum and pussy and fucking and orgasms (and make sure you kino-ing while you’re doing it, dumbass).

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The Shocker
on October 13, 2011 at 2:23 pm
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Last weekend a rich-princess type was at my house for a party. As a fitness test, she asked me when I last got laid. It doesn’t matter what I said (“my pipes are good” or something)- she was looking for ‘one of those guys’ that gets fucked all the time.

Later that night in front of a club, another flooz with a vastly over-inflated sense of SMV would interrupt our conversation to state how badly she wanted to fuck the bouncer. Who she had never talked to.

Folks, good luck trying to find a woman who likes you for your vibe. It is abundantly clear hot American girls have embraced their basic states- they are going to fuck the quarterback.

The game community has vastly underestimated just how committed women are to fucking the guy at the very tippy top. Women aren’t just looking for “an alpha” guy. They are designed to disregard not just you and your friends at a bar, not just most of the football team, but literally every swinging dick except the guy holding the football, getting the attention, star of the show.

Heartiste has discovered very specific things that women look for and as time goes on he is proved right again and again. Bitches want Pantone 12-0752. Anything else, pick up lines, day game, etc., is Bush league.

For those of you who like to pontificate about the awesome alpha things you do, and I don’t care why you do it, YOU’RE NOT GETTING AS MUCH GRADE A TAIL AS YOU WANT TO BE and you fucking know it. And this is A-OK. You are forgiven. Fresh Start.

Either commit to being great and figure out how to get there, or shut the fuck up. Your mediocre, above-average wins might make you more successful than 90% of the male population, but the 90th percentile isn’t waking up next to these girls:

Game hobbyists have barely scratched the surface. So far game has described how to project normalcy with a touch of superiority. We need to be projecting supremacy. We know some of the signals chicks look for. We really have no idea how to respond.

  • Student
    on October 13, 2011 at 3:55 pm
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    if you think that a bouncer is a king-of-the-castle alpha (actually a high power low status position) and that just because one bar slut vocalized a primal fantasy that there is some great meaning about the general female population behind it, then youre really not in a position to be talking at ppl about attraction dynamics like you do.

    another EG. when that girl asked you when you last got laid, shes not testing to see whether you get laid to see whether you’re fuckworthy, shes just fucking with you and testing if your frame is solid (bc this type of question is subconsciously intended to make most guys nervous and/or excited. w u i think it was the latter). responding with “my pipes are good” is better than a straightfwd answer but you’re still playing into her qualifying frame. and it wasn’t witty or funny either. ie, you get a C for that test (not a fail, but nuthin to brag about). did you end up sleeping w that girl? my bet is not, even though she was ripe for the picking if you had better game than u did.

    as for the quarterback or whatev. its not necessarily being a pro athlete that attracts the babes, its the inherent, natural confidence that many elite athletes have, and that the avg joe can mimic w the principle of game.

    athlete and/or $ status alone is not enough. see for EG pro hockey player wives and GFs. take a look at the Vancouver canucks

    peep the sedin twins wives. some of the best hockey players in the world, multi-millionaires, and leaders of an almost-championship team. and super ugly wives. and they aren’t the exception either, quite a few NHL players have less than impressive SOs.

    [Heartiste: You're right about that guy playing into the girl's frame. "my pipes are clean" is playing by her rules. Better answer is something along the lines of: "Are you the sex police?" or a simple "perv" will do.]

    • Ripp
      on October 14, 2011 at 2:29 am
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      Agree with Student. Shocker, you just got slipped the shocker, by a guy.

      To launch into a rant catapulted by some drunk slut murmuring “I wanna fuck the bouncer” indicates weak game and frustration.

      Never take “what” a woman says seriously, ever.

on October 13, 2011 at 2:33 pm
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I need input.i betad up with my gf.broke up 3 weeks ago.she’s initiated contact a couple of times.we always see each other since we school together and im still keeping on the low. She clearly wants me back but there’s one problem. Her ugly friend. She’s like a fat troll from hell. My gf,rather ex listens to her,and i think not because she wants to,but because of fear of wrath of the troll. Now, whats the best way forward?im more into getting back at the troll than winning back my Ex. But i wouldnt mind a win win.

  • Ripp
    on October 14, 2011 at 2:38 am
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    Agree with above comments.

    Not only do you need to move on, but make a commitment to yourself: you will always be gaming more than one girl at a time from here on out. If you don’t, its inevitable you will end up in the same position you are in now.

    Fat troll friends, other beta guys, ex gf bitches, unknown sources are always going to hate.

    Have many options, you’ll always win.

Wrapped Around His Finger

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on October 12, 2011 at 6:17 pm
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But here’s the question I ask: do you really want to be that guy? Surely I am not the only man who is repulsed by his behavior.

I don’t care if acting that way gets me a million bucks or a million women. The way he treats her and the people around her is just abhorrent. Being a decent person who makes life better and who people genuinely like (not just a narrow age of young women) is more important to me.

  • Anon
    on October 12, 2011 at 6:44 pm
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    Every time i read you, i sense that you’re gonna start to cry.
    Next time, please cry all your tears out before posting, maybe the result would be manlier.

    • Ripp
      on October 13, 2011 at 1:53 am
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      Quintin, if you had any more sand in your vagina you really would be a clam.

  • Dan Fletcher
    on October 12, 2011 at 10:48 pm
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    Those who don’t practice game will come to ruin amongst those who do.

    You’re projecting your male point of view on to women. Someone treating you, a man, in such a cruel way would make you feel awful. But you are no women and the behavior that satisfies her is not meant to satisfy you.

    Clearly she loves such treatment. Can’t you see that? Couldn’t we call you cruel for knowing what a women truly craves and not giving it to her?

    • Ripp
      on October 13, 2011 at 1:58 am
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      “Those who don’t practice game will come to ruin amongst those who do.”

      I would just add “[try] to ruin….

      • Ripp
        on October 13, 2011 at 2:03 am
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        F’d up my original reply.

        Point is I agree with Dan Fletcher’s statement. It’s a common occurence here at CH. The ones who post and cry and dispute game truths are ones who don’t practice game or have tried and failed.

on October 12, 2011 at 7:18 pm
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Here’s a question for H or anyone else willing to offer their thoughts:

Assuming you have a girl in this situation – lovestruck with an Alpha – and then this girl discovers the blog finally understanding what she has allowed herself to become for years or so. This girl then realizes she needs nothing from him as he has needed her more all these years (financially, as exemplified in this post, and etc.) *She can get over the sex, and find it elsewhere*
Well, what now H?
Put yourself in the position of a guy who perhaps found someone he actually might have loved. Or grown ” extremely fond” of if the L word scares you. You lose a girl who was honest with you all this time and left because she was tired of being used. Is your response, judging by all the previous posts, seriously just going to be – some variation of “there are other fish in the sea”. Don’t get me wrong, your analysis is spot on – I love it. But at some point the games have to stop, no? You both have to mature out of this or otherwise fail to admit/come to terms with the fact that you both want each other and don’t want to deal with losing each other (even though you both could afford to, I’m not being direly and sickeningly romantic here). I honestly don’t know what kind of women we’re talking about here, but they resemble doormats more than anything else.

[Heartiste: If you haven't hurt over losing someone, you haven't lived.]

  • Ripp
    on October 13, 2011 at 3:05 am
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    “Don’t get me wrong, your analysis is spot on – I love it. But at some point the games have to stop, no?”

    No. The game will never stop. Because women will always exhibit behavior where an alpha or “game” response is required to keep the relationship in control by the man. Whether its a one night pickup, an LTR, a marriage, a fuck buddy or whatever.

    Can an alpha man “love” or be “extremely fond” of a woman and not ‘want’ to risk losing her? Sure. Irrelevant.

    The tough truth Anette is that for men who have experienced being with many hot women, SMV 8 or above, you realize what they are capable of, and what they do act upon- whether in a “committed” relationship or not.

    Were not talking about doormats, were talking about physically attractive women who have a daily endless supply of suitors approaching them, and txting them, calling them, etc.

    Quick story: was together with a gorgeous 8.5, maybe a 9, Our relationship was awesome. Super fun. She was always with me. One night she passed out and her phone buzzed. I picked it up, and went through it. I opened pandora’s box into the life of the hot chic and the ugly truth that although I could pull hot women, I was clearly not in control of the relationship- and had lots of work to do to save myself from emotional pain.

    As my journey continued I’ve only seen this confirmed over, and over again. Even by women that are 7s, and sometimes 6s. I have lady friends that keep a universe of orbiters and they tell me about these guys. And this also is how I’ve confirmed the above. Hot young women who are 20yrs old to even 30yrs old that jerk men around, even their BFs, fiances, etc and make up stories to tell them so they can hang out with guys like me. Why? Because I’m a dick, mostly. I’m the guy that will tell them their tatoo is ugly, their makeup makes them look like a clown, they need to get to the gym, their roots are showing and they look tore up, will ignore them when they txt, will ditch them at a venue for a short while, will txt/call other chics in front of them, and on and on…

    …I “game” them, and they love me for it.

    To add, I’m not an asshole all of the time. Just enough assholery needed to cross the sexual line as fast as possible.

  • King A
    on October 14, 2011 at 2:17 am
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    Annette wrote: “Don’t get me wrong, your analysis is spot on – I love it. But at some point the games have to stop, no?”

    Yes. The games eventually stop. What happens after recess is indeed the important matter. But the playing is not frivolous, either. It conditions a man to fashion a post-game life worth putting the games behind for.

    If this is not fathomable to a guy in the thick of it (the vast constituency of this blog, of course), he is trapped in a feedback loop of fantasy. He’s doing it wrong. Some even extrapolate the cock carousel into politics and science, as if the wild-oats period of adolescence is the tyrannical fact upon which the rest of human life is dependent.

    Much of the short-sightedness of the game community probably owes to the delusions of immortality that attend youth. Like wrinkling spinsters who insist they “still got it!” there is some denial of the inexorable progression of life, as if the fairytale just reverts back to chapter one rather than ever reaching an end.

    Did ye not hear it? — No; ’twas but the wind,
    Or the car rattling o’er the stony street;
    On with the dance! let joy be unconfined;
    No sleep till morn, when youth and pleasure meet
    To chase the glowing hours with flying feet.

    Look, the need to progress past the basics is not brought on by simple disillusionment. This is a critical misunderstanding. Men never get tired of pussy. We would play Game (or video games) for the rest of our lives something greater never called upon us. What breaks us out of the one stage is not something negative, like boredom, but rather something positive, like the will to apply such effective wisdom to the greatest possible endeavors.

    Advanced class is about how to discover which of our finite choices is worthy of applying such a devastating tool to. What else can the sharp cold steel knife of game slice wide open?

    Turns out: lots of things.

    But hark! — that heavy sound breaks in once more,
    As if the clouds its echo would repeat;
    And nearer, clearer, deadlier than before;
    Arm! arm! it is — it is — the cannon’s opening roar!

    • Ripp
      on October 15, 2011 at 6:53 am
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      Folks, King hAte is back! And he’s bringing us another serving of useless rhetorical vernacular to make a point that could otherwise be done in a couple of sentances.

      King A enough of us have read your bombastic postings and we get that you believe there is a ‘greater meaning’ (however you want to phrase it) that us students of game haven’t realized yet. Fine. Accepted. Maybe you are right.

      Now, show us.

      Since you have mastered game, and have gone through the luxury of having an endless supply of beautiful women waiting to serve your sexual needs, then for once, come down to our level and share your knowledge with us. Provide some examples.

      Or let’s look at this another way: an opportunity for you to validate your purpose here on this blog. Like the old wise man kicking down knowledge to the youth by telling them to save money for a rainy day, or whatever.

on October 13, 2011 at 3:32 am
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Great post. I always appreciate the surgical writings of Roissy. He writes in 1080p.

So I’m a west coast guy, but currently out here on the east coast for some family shit. I need to throw down a few quick stories of success.

Was in Boston at a bar. A hot blonde, smv 8, was sitting solo scribbling away. Turns out she was writing a grant request for her Phd (lots of colleges in boston.) Long story short I’ll bulletize my tactics:
-never smiled at her, only smirked
-continually fleeting eyes
-never responded with positive “oh that’s cool” shit to her ramblings of academic success
-called her a dork, several times
-called out her fake colored eye contacts
-ran the healthy gambit (low BMI, waist-hip ratio), this always works I’m telling you
-***called her a “netflix kind of girl”, she laughed, had no idea why she was, perfect
-another dude entered set, she broke convo with me, I. Interupted her, reframed convo and befriended guy, dominated conversation, ignored her until he left
-walked her to car
-heavy makeout,pulling hair, pinned her against car, hand up he skirt, spreading ass apart, rubbin the kitty from the front, lasted around ~15m. Hot.
-thin athletic, in heels,
-total seduction ~3 hours from cold approach.

No alcohol. She didn’t drink, and I wasn’t either.

Didn’t fuck close that night, but the buildup was fucking exciting. Anyways crdit to CH for some of the tactics.

  • Ripp
    on October 14, 2011 at 3:11 am
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    Thanks guys.

    @AB: I’m very aware of the “pecking” or leaning in beta behavior. I first saw this outlined in a mystery video years ago. I’m very conscience of it and almost never do it. I stay leaned back, one shoulder dropped, glass by my side. It’s hilarious to watch beta guys peck like fucking pigeons when talking to a chic. That and they’re agreeable nods and shit eating smile.

    Here is a funny part I forgot to add: so ms. Phd is a diet coke fiend. As I tucked her into her honda accord (with black leathr seats, heh) her car was filled with empty diet coke cans. Her car door had 4 of them stuffed in the side pocket. After sucking face whilst she was sitting down in the driver seat I playfully push her off gently “get off me” (a great maneuver during heavy makeout, role-reversal) then look at the cans and say, “you and your fucking diet coke” grab a can, crunch it in my hand ljike a meathead and throw it on the parking lot ground. She’s appalled. But turned on. “Get outa here” I close her door and roll off.

    Now I’ll share my killer end of night txt that I always use (must be a high compliance target, like phd girl). Once the chic has gotten home wait about 15 to 30m or however long needed and txt: “stop thinking about me and get some rest”

    Ms phd girl responded right away. I have very good success with this, id say 90%. But here is the next most important part: after she responds, DO NOT REPLY back, no matter what. Start new thread the next day.

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on October 11, 2011 at 4:58 pm
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Body language and style are both subconscious for the most part, it seems like if you’re lacking in those, it’ an ‘overall game’ issue. You can tell someone ‘what to do with their hands’ in a social situation, but unless it’s awkward it’s still going to look awkward.

An FTC sounds like it would work great in theory, but then you actually have to make a quick escalation. The last thing you want is a girl saying “Didn’t you have to get back to your friends?”.

I hate to duck out, but I’d much rather avoid picking up a girl in a group setting. When she’s alone – master that first.

  • Ripp
    on October 12, 2011 at 1:33 am
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    Dead wrong. I’ve never had a target ask a logical question to qualify my FTC. I game every week, night and day game. Sometimes I don’t use an FTC, but when I do it is never challenged.

    An FTC opener can be as simple as: “hey real quick, was wondering ___?”

    Fill in blank with environmental/situation question.

on October 11, 2011 at 5:40 pm
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Use “Short Set Method”. It’s for both the “low-key bar full of regulars” and the “too loud to have a long conversation” situations:

- Make a funny/playful off-hand comment, tease, cold-read, etc.

- Bail and be social with other people

- Re-open later

Regulars aren’t used to people sitting down and taking over their group for the night and you should be socially competent enough to understand their perspective. When you say something funny/playful off-hand and bail they get curious about who you are and discuss with their group “what was that?? lol” and will notice you chatting up other groups and all the social proofy stuff you’re doing (because you’re doing social proofy stuff to DHV yourself, right? Waitresses are flirting and hugging you? Bartenders are shaking your hand? You’re making random groups of people smile and laugh?).

If they’re curious and confident, they’ll re-open you later. If they’re curious but shy, they’ll give you a chance to re-open them by standing near you later in the night. If they’re curious but shy and lazy, they’ll just be more receptive when you come back later. Even if a girl is completely rude to you, when she sees that everyone else likes you, often her attitude will 180 completely because now her hamster is going “Shit, everyone else likes this guy, who IS he?? Did I just tell a movie star to fuck off?? Those girls like him, what do they know that I don’t know?? Oh no I hope I didn’t mess up my chance…”

This method is a lot more work than just sitting down and zeroing in on her magically plowing through every obstacle like a super-ninja which it sounds like is the solution the guy in the article is hoping for…but this method is what actually CONSISTENTLY works, and consistency is the goal. If the girl loves you right off the bat by fluke, you can just sit down with her group but that’s just crossing your fingers and playing the numbers game and hoping you’re handed an opportunity on a silver platter.

Create your OWN opportunities with some strategic game.

  • Ripp
    on October 12, 2011 at 1:24 am
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    Agree 100%

    And IMO this is better game. Open, hit hard with confidence ‘interest spike’ then roll off. Reopen later. Work the venue.

    Gold, good reply.

on October 11, 2011 at 10:29 pm
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From CH’s latest tweet he linked to:

“Ancient Athens was probably the most productive civilization in history, and never did a society have less sexual repression for men than Athens did, where the government was kind enough to subsidize prostitution so that men were never in need for sex, and where women had absolutely no rights, and so could not interfere with the productive energy of men.”

I’m perplexed. Isn’t the reason society is in decay today and men never grow up is in large part due to easy sex? The main theme from this blog has been don’t be the sucker working the 9-5 your whole life to marry that 5/10 when you can just learn game and get consistent 7 and 8s.

But our civilization was built on hard work so this is a destructive trend (for society) when our sexual energy is being harnessed not for society, but for hedonistic interests.

If sex was easy in Ancient Greece then why weren’t the men just super-complacent with their lives instead of building a legendary civilization?

  • Ripp
    on October 12, 2011 at 1:36 am
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    Straw Troll.

Occupy Cupertino

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on October 8, 2011 at 2:41 pm
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Speaking of college/university… I would like the opinion of the esteemed commenters here, and hopefully the great Heartiste himself on where I should focus my attention. I’m at uni and I’ve considered and attempted doing some street day game on the side when I have some free time. Mostly I’m just getting out of the house and doing 1 or 2 approaches or none on the street or bus or wherever, aa is mild but I have massive identity and inner game issues which arent going to be solved anytime soon. Even so I’ve tried street day game. But videos like this make me very disheartened, along with input from the community which often ranks street daygame as being the hardest and having the lowest approach/close ratio.

So I’m thinking I might just focus on college game full time. What I’m looking at doing exactly is meeting a large amount of people and then hosting house parties – I live in a studio near the college. I’m not sure about this but I think I would invite about 30 and then I could reasonably expect that about half of that – 15 would come. Once it starts I assume it’d be smooth sailing from there – find out which of the girls I invite (it’d be over 80-85% girls – I know ten times as many girls as I know guys, I’m trying to meet more guys but I’m actually finding it hard to find guys that arent beta shlubs-tangent) are DTF, work out the logistics of whether they can stay the night, then once the party is over everyone leaves and the girl stays and then the real party begins.

What do you guys think? I would appreciate any help. College game isnt really discussed on here, I’ve only seen it mentioned briefly by the men who have found game in their late 20′s or even 30′s and are sad because they could had so much sex if they knew in college what they know now. I really think that one can do very, very well in college. I think it is not unreasonable to think that if a guy becomes very popular he can have sex with upwards of 50 women a year. I dont know any expert in day game that could do that with women off the street. Seems like you’d put in less effort in college as well. Less effort, bigger reward. My university has over 23,000 women and about 40% of them are very attractive – sometimes it seems like 80%. Some parts of campus are so incredibly target dense that they rival clubs or fashion shows.

  • (r)Evoluzione
    on October 8, 2011 at 5:58 pm
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    Yeah, daygame is hard, but in that target-rich environment, you can do 5-10 approaches a day on average, maybe more.

    This numbers game is essential for three reasons. First, it gives you a thick skin & teaches you not to give a FUCK what other people think. This is a massive lever in helping you get over those “inner game issues that are not going away anytime soon.” That’s a limiting belief that can be, and needs to be, flushed away immediately.

    Secondly, those big approach numbers do yield results, if slowly, but it teaches you to be less attached to outcome. Your goal is to simply have fun with the approach, entertain yourself with the girls around you, often at their expense. Make the interaction fun and light, and screen out the frumpy-faces who take life too seriously to joke & have fun.

    Three, once you start to get numbers on the regular, and start going for drinks with girls frequently, having makeouts with different girls, your confidence will boost through the roof.

    Day game is self-reinforcing. The more you do it, the better you get at it. It’s a positive feedback loop, at least until you get to a moderate skill level. The great thing is, these are real social skills that translate directly into getting jobs & promotions, negotiations in business deals, and with friends and family. Don’t give them short shrift just because they’re hard.

    Don’t look at those stupid youtube videos of chodes doing it wrong. Don’t read too many pickup blogs. Stick with the masters–read here, Roosh, Rollo, and maybe one or two of your favorites. Don’t get caught in the comments sections too much. Read Roosh’s Day Bang, go indirect unless you get gold-plated, bulletproof hypersexual IOI’s, which you should be getting before too long. Your confidence will start small, but the day approach rapidly builds confidence, because you get to see your successes add up. Cocky-funny and amused mastery are the frames you want to cement inside your head.

    In my college, I was a shorter, kind of skinny guy, handsome enough, and I knew nothing of game. Yet I was propelled by my dick to make approaches and talk to girls. I had no plan, no sense of what to do, and some strong beta tendencies from all the PC indoctrination. I had a couple of plusses–drive & motivation, a bit of an attitude, but I had a lot more minuses, and I still did OK. If I had to do it all over again, and could talk to my 19 year old self, give him a few books, a good talking-to, hell yeah, I’d do it, but today I have no regrets. That’s the other thing. You have two things in your favor–opportunity and time. You’re young so don’t put too much pressure on yourself to improve. You’ll improve well enough just living, and so with a little red-pill knowledge, you’ll do fine.

    Bottom line–just get out there & talk to people. Don’t overthink it. Just act. Get moving. Say anything. Your identity and inner game issues will resolve. (Hint: accept yourself for who you are, and make no excuses for your desires or any part of yourself) It gets MUCH easier over time.

    • Ripp
      on October 10, 2011 at 8:48 am
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      Really good advice from r(Evoluzione).

      Be “outcome independent”. Because as a MAN you don’t derive your self worth by the petty reactions of women. If one chic doesn’t work out, doesn’t matter, you will meet a better looking, more fun chic 10m later, especially at a university.

      When some chic blows you out or you make an ass out of yourself or whatever, do this:
      1) chuckle to yourself
      2) be proud of yourself for having the balls to open and TRY, most men would never even attempt
      3) the chic won’t remember you or the interaction, so who cares anyway

      If you can find a close friend who is SERIOUS and MOTIVATED to ‘work’ with, this will help. If not, roll solo.

      Set attainable objectives, and be realistic and honest with yourself. For example, start simple, really simple:
      Week #1: open 1 set per day, with a simple hello and go for a positive “hello” as a response.
      Week #2: open 2 sets per day, start with hello and a simple compliment, then roll off.
      Week #3: open 3 sets per day, use functional openers: “where is the science lab bulding,” or what I always liked “hey excuse me, my best friend loves [article of clothing, etc], she’s always looking for these kinds of things, where did you get your [boots, bag, shirt, whatever].

      Like an emperor, you are slowly, yet constructively building your empire of pussy.

on October 9, 2011 at 7:44 am
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I went to college at a California State University school. The CSU system isn’t that expensive relative to private schools and the University of California system.

In college I was a fucking rock star. Hardly went to class. Chased pussy around the entire time. I talked to enough alumni from my fraternity to figure things out and took note of it.

I had a fucking blast in college. I wasn’t there to get an education. I was there for chics and beer. To maximize my early 20s and take advantage of as much young hot pussy as I could. And I did.

Graduated with a degree in business. My GPA was shit but no employers look at GPA (at least I’ve never heard of one) and I have no interest in grad school.

But here’s the best part: I got into direct software sales after college. By 26 making 6 figures and killing it. Laughing at all the assholes who graduated from some private school with $100k in debt only to get some shit job after having studied their asses off.

The value of a university: high concentrations of young hot pussy, networking, and if you’re going to the right kind of school (party school) it is drunken disneyland. A great way to spend your late teens/early 20s.

I still relish in the memories of living in the dorms with dozens of hot, young and stupid 18 & 19 yr olds right down the hall.

  • Michael
    on October 9, 2011 at 9:40 pm
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    similar to my pursuits, but i want to be able to work all over the world and not tied to one place with a static commute for 40 years.

    • Ripp
      on October 10, 2011 at 8:15 am
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      To expand on my profession a little: I’m an outside sales professional. I live in the domain of my customer’s location and work out of my house when making phone calls and writing proposals.

      Worked for a european company, would travel there about 2x per year. My territory included 7 states in the western US and I was always out of town. As far as game is concerned its killer opportunity to work on cold approach in airports, hotel bars, just about everywhere.

      Don’t get me wrong, I worked my ass off. Stressful as all hell traveling so much.

Comment Of The Week: Fat Chicks And Their Ludicrous Standards

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on October 6, 2011 at 2:02 pm
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You completely lost me (as well as the plot) when you started ragging on economics. There’s nothing in economics that preclude people from having utility functions that incorporate relative social standing as a component. Ditto for sexually derived motivations.

  • Ripp
    on October 7, 2011 at 4:40 am
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    You’re only as good as your options.

    You’re on a 2nd date with an SMV 7 [Slut A]. At the first date you were able suck on boobs and give a good up the skirt reach around and tickle the kitty of [Slut A]. During this 2nd date you meet with a larger group of [Slut A]s friends and therby are introduced to SMV 8 [Slut B]. [Slut B] is giving off IOIs and attraction signals to you. After flirty exchange you have gina tingled both [Slut A] (via jealousy plotline) and [Slut B] (via DHV spikes and kino).

    What do you WANT do?

    Opt 1: Settle with [Slut A] and try and fuck close at the opportunity cost of foregoing [Slut B]? (Less risk to blow load that evening)

    Opt 2: Ditch [Slut A] with the cost of losing the account and opt for the chance to seduce [Slut B]. (More risk, better reward, really hot eat for breakfast ass).

    Economics, indeed.
    AB = 1
    Stuki = 0

    (Based on a true story, names were changed to protect the victimized.)

    Anyone guess which option I chose?

on October 6, 2011 at 11:11 pm
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well, there are sub-narratives and there are sub-narratives.

for every case of the pathetic loser woman you showcase here there may be one who is successful in holding to unrealistic high standards; she is not of the reality-based community. like bush-cheney and co.,she makes her own reality, somewhat like some of the aphas who comment here. she may be a practitioner of a subversive ‘inner game’. she does what she wants and screw ‘em if they can’t take a joke.

to be sure these may be the outliers, psychological manipulators nonpareil, but their existence shows it’s possible however rare or common they may be. i’m sure even our blogmeister has seen such cases, women so arrogant and confident that their social success has everything to do with pure chutzpah and nothing else.

having said that, having a clear vision is probably the best for most of us who are not gifted with sustainable grandiosity or talent for dazzling with brilliance.

so which is it: do you advise us to delude ourselves that we possess a higher smv than we in fact have? or is this advice only applicable to guys?

  • Ripp
    on October 7, 2011 at 5:30 am
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    What you are referring to is an attention whore of the highest vaginal caliber. A short lived characteristic with intermittent peaks usually occurring at night venues where the male/female ratio is greater than 2 to 1.

    I assure you she is not a practitioner of sharp inner game, or a practitioner of anything other than feeding her ego with cheap compliment suds to be soaked up by her bloated hamster. Good work you beta shit heads. Ya know, the ones that post “damn girl you are gorgeous” comments on her facebook immediately following a posted pic of her most recent night of attention whoring adventure.

    But to answer your snippety little question: neither.

    1) goto gym
    2) don’t whore for attention & validation from men
    3) swallow cum
    4) make sandwich(s)

    You may not be able to dazzle with brilliance, but with a semen map of hawaii across your breast you can glisten and sparkle in the right light.

The Modren Man

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on October 5, 2011 at 12:05 pm
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Well, some guys will just fuck anything that moves, which is why even the fat bitches can get anything they want from men losers, up to and including marriage.

[Heartiste: ftfy.]

Unfortunately, I don’t subscribe to the belief that something is better than nothing. If all I can get is fat bitches, I’m gonna use my right hand… and with the way the west is going right now, fat bitches are the future of western womankind.

Jeez, I hate fat bitches.

[I don't hate fat bitches who don't proselytize that fat is fine, nor do I hate fat bitches who understand their fatness is a handicap in life and work to lose weight.]

  • carolyn
    on October 5, 2011 at 1:01 pm
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    sigh…just pile on. again. don’t you guys ever get tired of it?

    read “good calories, bad calories” or the more accessible “why we get fat” both by gary taubes, and then appreciate just what we’re up against. the wonder is that we ALL don’t get fat. i’m sure it’s already been brought up here, that he postulates that our current low fat frenzy is the cause of much heart disease and “diabesity”. i wish the word was spread further and wider. it should be shouted from the rooftops.

    we have been lied to. the way to go is low-carb where hunger is minimized. I’ve been more successful at dropping weight than i ever was on any low-cal diet. but don’t let me ruin your fun. go ahead and mock the poor girl.

    [Heartiste: The major issue -- the venal sin, if you will -- is not the shift to empty carb bad calories that has occurred in western nations. It's the delusion that fatness is OK, even sexy, and those who say otherwise are evil people to be shunned to the outer wastelands of the PC mirror funhouse. Fat apologists are the true evil, bringing their message of ugliness and loserness and phony self-esteem assuaging to all who are weak in the face of temptation and liable to actually heed that message, thus making the world an uglier place by the day.
    It is those messengers of malignancy who earn the full brunt of my righteous wrath.]

    • Trimegistus
      on October 5, 2011 at 1:20 pm
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      Jesus. “We’ve been lied to” — by who? Nobody every says eating too much won’t make you fat. Or are you trying to blame restaurants and groceries for making you eat too damned much?

      Forget this week’s fad diet. It’s not what you eat, it’s how much you fucking eat, and how little fucking exercise you get. Put down the pint of Ben&Jerry’s and go take a fucking walk.

      Develop some god-damned self-control, and self-respect. Take responsibility for yourself and stop looking for an excuse to claim victimhood.

      • carolyn
        on October 5, 2011 at 1:43 pm
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        all i can say is read the book. “gc,bc” is very dense so “why we…”is better if you don’t have much time. of course self control is important, but when being faced with soul-deep hunger on a low-cal diet is a constant, you won’t take it for long. given freedom to eat meat, eggs, fish certain vegetables to fullness is easily tolerated in comparison. when you’re satiated that cupcake doesn’t have the same power over you.

        taubes even claims that exercise, while desirable, is counterproductive to weight loss; you’ll just develop a bigger appetite.

        as for blaming the food industry-yes, i do in part. high fructose corn syrup and sugar is in everything. it’s almost inescapable unless you read the labels. i believe it’s no accident that taubes’ premise hasn’t been rigorously tested. possibly the money isn’t there to do it because the findings might inconvenience conagra. the food pyramid? what a load.

        don’t get me started on the busiesses advertising crap food to children.

        [Heartiste: I agree that the food industry and government are worthy of some blame. But my target designator is not limited in scope, and it is happiest when zeroing in on the juiciest, most loudmouthed, most hypocritical enemy encampments.]

        • Ripp
          on October 6, 2011 at 2:07 am
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          I took nutrition and food science in college, thinking it was going to be an easy jerk off elective that I needed and would breeze by it. Actually it was a true science course, and I was only able to cheat on a few assignments, I actually had to study a little bit. Anyways…I learned one very important principal above any other diet horse shit exercise plans blah blah blah.

          Per Day:
          Caloric Intake vs. Caloric Expenditure.


          For example those pretty young 18yr hotties that come in freshmen year in the fall with flat stomachs, only to go home at winter break with a pudgy little belly and muffin top…”the freshmen 15.” Ya know the soccer champ or volleyball girl from high school that then comes to college and trades that sport for guzzlig cheap booz and beer, swallowing tablespoons of DNA from frat guy assholes like me, and eating late night pizza…etc.

          Genetics play some role. But at the end of the day, if you’re sitting on your fat ass and not exercising and eating more calories then expending, your body will store these extra cals as fat.

          1) Diet
          2) Exercise
          3) Shut the fuck up

on October 5, 2011 at 1:55 pm
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The clear parallels between the thinking on this blog and feminist thought would be hilarious if they weren’t such a stark insight into the depravity that is in human nature.

Both sides here believe everyone is basically the same. Feminists believe that men who don’t like fat chicks are misogynistic oppressors who could (presumably) change their preferences but refuse to in order to propagate the patriarchy. CH believes that all men value the exact same things he values in women, which I’ve gathered are flat stomachs, moderate-sized breasts, and slightly-bigger-than-standard-white-chick asses. Both sides are obviously wrong. Some men are, for example, ass men and want a particular kind of ass with less concern as to what it’s attached to. Some men only care about a woman having a flat stomach and care a lot less about the rest of her. Some guys care a lot about face. Some don’t.

There’s pretty good evidence that a non-negligible part of the male world does not share CH’s views on the importance of a flat stomach. This disconnect probably explains why this is issue generates so much vitriol around these parts – not a lot of posts on how important it is for a woman to have a symmetric face or most of her teeth, because no one would disagree on those. But from what I recall, 20% of readership here liked that 200+ lb porn star you posted a while back, and closer to 50% would tap that at least once. Fat acceptance basically recognizes that more dudes would be nailing and marrying fat chicks if it were socially acceptable. CH reasonably realizes this would probably lead to more fat chicks, and justifiably opposes it out of self-interest, because there are probably already a lot more fat chicks than men who find fat chicks appealing.

Interestingly, black men, perhaps the most naturally alpha subgroup of men, tend to favor heavier women. How would you explain that? Yes, if you look at a lot of the very hottest of them, they do have pretty small waists, but looking more broadly, black guys appear to care more about T&A than about flat stomachs, unlike many white guys. Perhaps because black women tend to carry extra weight better, on average, than white chicks.

Of course, most fat chicks aren’t hot. Particularly older ones. Just as, unsurprisingly, most women aren’t that hot. Particularly, surprise surprise, older ones. For your typical woman, the existence of attractive plus-sized models does her no more good than the existence of attractive supermodels: she isn’t either of them. But this idea that every man looks for the same things in a woman is patently false.

Also, I’m curious: women who run away from their husbands to live in sin with convicts obviously show deep, profound insight into the psychology of all women. When some dude marries a land whale, what insight does that give us into the psychology of all men?

  • Dan Fletcher
    on October 5, 2011 at 11:09 pm
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    Your argument is mostly vapid, but here it goes anyway:

    “There’s pretty good evidence that a non-negligible part of the male world does not share CH’s views on the importance of a flat stomach.

    Please present this evidence. Here is evidence for dudes not liking fatties(hint: it decreases fertility)

    From the study:
    There are clear advantages to using BMI as a basis for mate selection: BMI is closely correlated with health and fertility. In a recent cohort study, 115195 women were followed over a period of 16 years. The lowest mortality rate (for all causes) was associated with BMIs close to 19 (Manson et al. 1995). Although representing the `normal’ range as declined by Bray (1978), women whose BMI fell between 19.0 and 24.9 had a 20% increase in relative risk of mortality. At still higher values of BMI, relative risk of mortality accelerated considerably: 33% increase in relative risk for BMIs of 25.0^26.9; 60% increase in relative risk for BMIs of 27.0^28.9 and over 100% increase in relative risk for BMIs of 29^32. A high BMI also has a negative impact on fertility. Put together, the evidence suggests that the balance between the optimal BMI for health and fertility is struck at around a value of 18^19, which, in this study, is also the preferred BMI for attractiveness.

    “not a lot of posts on how important it is for a woman to have a symmetric face

    Because they were born with a crooked face and cannot change it short of drastic surgery. However a fatty can become slim by not inhaling cookies and hitting the stair-master. No sense berating an asymmetrical women. She just got unlucky.

    “But from what I recall, 20% of readership here liked that 200+ lb porn star you posted a while back, and closer to 50% would tap that at least once.

    Selection bias. Do you think that fact that she was a PORN STAR had anything to do with that?

    “Fat acceptance basically recognizes that more dudes would be nailing and marrying fat chicks if it were socially acceptable.”

    Manginas will marry what they can get. Fat acceptance merely alleviates people of personal responsibility and rationalizes their shitty and dangerous life choices(being fat is fucking terrible for your health). Much easier to rationalize things away than hit the treadmill.

    If you get anything from the study I posted above, it should be that being fat negatively effects fertility. It is well accepted that women are most sexy when their fertility is at its peak. We can then argue that women are hottest at a 18-19 BMI.

    “interestingly, black men, perhaps the most naturally alpha subgroup of men, tend to favor heavier women. How would you explain that?

    Favor? Or has necessity become a virtue?

    Who do rich and successful black men date?

    “But this idea that every man looks for the same things in a woman is patently false.

    Straw man.

    “Also, I’m curious: women who run away from their husbands to live in sin with convicts obviously show deep, profound insight into the psychology of all women. When some dude marries a land whale, what insight does that give us into the psychology of all men?”

    That most men aren’t alphas.

    • Ripp
      on October 6, 2011 at 2:46 am
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      Dan Fletcher = 1
      FairNBalanced = -9999

      FairNBalanced, you got owned buddy.

      “But this idea that every man looks for the same things in a woman is patently false.”

      I understand the argument you are trying to introduce with the representation of peculiar fetishes of men; not every single existing man will 100% agree on what the exact most attractive attributes of a woman should be. You’re splitting hairs.

      It is in the aggregate where CH is correct.

      BMI 26? I see you like a little FUPA on you’re women…(Fat Upper Pussy Area)

      [Heartiste: Strawmen and false equivalencies are all the haters have left in their quivers.]

Niceguys Lose… Again

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A couple of points to share…

I was going beta on my gf…then I decided to go away to a party without her…one that was full of women…

She went MENTAL…I kept my cool, blew it off and went….

While away…I email closed hot younger flight attendant…who wrote me saying she wants to go for drinks when she’s in town…

Then when gf when I got back she went mental after we met up again…i to her that I was not happy with the way things were and laid low…basically I was a jerk.

Results? 1) Suddenly she’s calling me all the time after a dry spell.
2) she’s banging me…after a dry spell
3) She’s stopped nagging me, constantly shit testing me

Guys…this girl is the worst of all shit-testers and she basically laid down like a kitten after I was a complete dick.

Also…guys, chicks know when other women are hitting on you….it’s like they can smell it on you.

Another girl I’m gaming….constantly tells me I’m in her words “completely crazy”….in other words I’m tapping into her own wild side….

I just smile or laugh…but never be dumb to hints…never seem over eager.

It’s a fine line you walk….show interest, then walk away.

  • A.B. Dada
    on October 4, 2011 at 2:00 pm
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    Walawala, please repeat after me:

    “My women will always know I have options.”

    do it one more time:

    “My women will always know I have options.”

    Hey, even if you’re Mr. Monogamy or so busy you can’t keep two in the background, she is desperately needing to feel that her man is attractive to other women. Women do not trust themselves if they made a good decision about keeping a guy around in their lives unless ALL of their friends, co-workers, random women on the street, waitresses, flight attendants and even their own sisters and cousins WANT THEIR MAN.

    Repeat it two more times and your penance is complete, my son.

    • Ripp
      on October 5, 2011 at 3:56 am
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      Likewise when you actually DO have other options, you don’t put so much value about the option you choose to have in front of you at the moment. Women can smell this powerful attractant.

      Further when dating hot women they will consistently be approached and txt/called by men- mostly orbiters. Be her best option. Fight that fire with your fire: Pull other numbers, keep other women in your orbit, open sets in front of her, chat with the cute server, the cute bartender, the bag chic at the grocery store.

      “My women will always know I have options.”

on October 4, 2011 at 2:59 pm
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So i broke it off with my girl 2 weeks ago. I had betad up and she lost attraction.i asked her what next then and she was like she doesnt know cause replacing me will be hard.weve been together for 9 months,im on the NC rule but we always see each other because we go to the same uni.i know i should move on to another girl but i want to give it a shot just to rate what i need to know is,on week 3,should i call her,or send a non sequitor text?i want to get to her crazy and make that hamster lose afew

  • Ripp
    on October 5, 2011 at 4:12 am
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    Follow AB’s and Dan Fletcher’s suggestions.

    Most importantly, review xsplat’s comment.

    You have a great opportunity in front of you: move on and rise above your past. Learn now to NOT focus so much energy on any ONE woman.

    When one woman doesn’t work out, it doesn’t matter…because you will meet a hotter and cooler one tomorrow.

on October 4, 2011 at 7:09 pm
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This might sound like a sill question, but how do you act like a jerk or bad boy? What kind of things are asshole behavior?

I’ve been running game for a few years, with some good success but I’ve never been called a jerk or bad boy.

Could someone give me some examples of things to do or say?

Openly talk about banging other women? Insult them? Put them down?

  • Ripp
    on October 5, 2011 at 4:46 am
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    Not a silly question. xsplat is correct in the learning/patterning aspect of being jerkish, assholish or whatever characteristic you are trying to adapt.

    As with any habit, your goal is to reach unconscious competence. Over time, *mostly through application*, this will happen. Some study and reflection will be necessary as well.

    Some tactical suggestions, first starting with your questions:

    Openly talk about banging other women?
    -No, not necessarily. If she discusses banging other men, then yes. This is good. Share sexual stories, anchor them to you. However the more appropriate tactic is to ‘suggest competition.’ I run a dating gambit every first date where I mention a recent story of where I walked out on a date, among other things.

    Insult them? Put them down?
    -No. Insulting them will blow you out. Or insulting them in response to a shit test is a FAIL. Learn negging. There was a great post earlier here at CH about the ‘insidious neg.’ Look it up.

    -Never apologize, for anything, ever

    -Stop complimenting

    -Be critical of her apparel, appearance, jewelery, makeup (not insult, but critique in the negative form. ex. “I don’t care for that outfit, just looks, bland.” or “What are you wearing? [puzzled look])

    -Interrupt her during an invested dialogue. Ex. she’s talking about work or something important to her (whining etc.) Interrupt, “shit I forgot my phone in the car”, [bounce, come back and ignore conversation.]

    -Point out a fat or ugly woman when in public and comment “fat/ugly people are so disgusting.”

    -Disagree with her.

    -Call her a “dork”. (my favorite.)

    Your transformation will take some time. If you have the skill set, go on some throw-away dates (dates with women you have no interest in) to practice your new asshole persona. It will involve some studying, and creativity to make the assholeness congruent with your life.

    The rewards: hotter pussy.

on October 4, 2011 at 8:54 pm
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There is always this confusion that acting all aloof and an asshole will get you the girls. This is simply not true, the reality is that the guys who are attractive to women can get away with that type of a behavior. Women just deal with it, they would rather have a desirable guy that doesn’t act like an asshole. So putting on the negative attributes of the bad boy is not going to improve your sex life.

Instead focus on becoming a desirable guy: good job, interesting life, do hard workouts in the gym, bring out your masculine essence, become a good cook. Women crave a guy that has all the hallmarks of masculine independence. Do the best that you can. This is a lot of hard work, but you will have a happier life, whether there are girls or not, focus on your life and the rest will fall in place. You will also attract the better quality girls, not the emotional wreck that floats in bars and clubs.

[Heartiste: Troll.]

  • Ripp
    on October 5, 2011 at 4:57 am
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    “There is always this confusion that acting all aloof and an asshole will get you the girls.”

    haha…you are surely confused my friend.

    “…bring out your masculine essence, become a good cook”


    “…but you will have a happier life, whether there are girls or not, focus on your life and the rest will fall in place.”

    whether there are girls or NOT??? …the rest will fall in place…???

Another Game-Validating Scientific Study: Make Decisions, Get Laid

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Basil Ransom
on October 3, 2011 at 2:19 pm
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Dada, good list.

Dinner at home dates are good as well. But treat her like the help, not the guest. Don’t start cooking until she shows up. You can even buy the groceries together. Make her prepare a course or two. Make her clean the dishes, set the table, toss salad etc. And don’t be too precious about the whole affair.

  • Ripp
    on October 3, 2011 at 9:17 pm
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    Agree. #1 reason why I live alone. Making dinner with your date at your pad is fun. And as AB mentions…TELL her to do stuff. Its like playing house and chic love that shit. Im always on the grill while I tell her to do the lady crap.

    “Make her clean the dishes, set the table, toss salad etc.”

    toss salad…heh…

on October 3, 2011 at 3:06 pm
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100%. And 1 to AB’s recomendations above.

A couple of other suggestions to add/augment:

1) Never apologize for a decission you’ve made regarding venue choice(s). If it sucks, bounce.

2) TELL her where you are going with assertiveness and when to be ready. Ex. “were going to sushi at [venue]. I’ll pick you up at 8.” Speak as if assuming compliance always.

3) TELL her what to wear. (I always go for skirt and heels if its a day2, to compliance test, and will downgrade venue choice if she shows up in jeans or something shitty. If she says “I thought we were going to [venue A], I say “ah, changed my mind.” Be decissive, lead.

4) On a first date drink meetup of sort, and after about 45 to 60 minutes, interupt her thread and get the tab. Continue to chat for another 10m or so. Then pay tab. Standup, say “let’s go.” Keeps her off balance and hamster spinning. At that point decide whether to walk her to her car, or go to venue #2 or whatever, this works great to exhibit control, decisiveness and leadership. And doesn’t give her any clear indicator of validation.

5) if she gives you an excuse to not meetup, say “no, cancel, meet me instead.” great way to qualify her bullshit generator.

6) if she invites you to meet up with her friends (and you haven’t fucked her), then tell her “no, meet me at [venue] instead.” Make up some shit about why its better for you. It doesn’t have to be logical.

7) I love ABs suggestion about ordering for her. I always do this. But to add, I memorize my order, and hers, and put the menu down. Not at dinner per se, but even just an appetizer and drinks. It appears so dominant and decissive to roll out your order to the server with a clear and smooth verbal. “I’ll have a vodka soda, the roasted pig shit skewers and the lady will have a vagina pink martini and an order of cunt musceles.” All without fumbling like a retard and pointing at the menu himming and hawing.

on October 4, 2011 at 8:05 am
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I love a good CH post that offers some excellent game advice…now where is King A?

*Paging King A*

I volunteer King A to offer some additional commentary on his own experience with using decisiveness that has lead to banging hot women. I respectfully request a bullet point list with some suggestions that he has found successful.

I’m not patronizing…well I am, BUT I am genuinely curious. King A has made several assertions and implications of his supposed knowledge of game, yet never shares the secret sauce with the rest of us.

C’mon man, show us what’s up. Bestow us with your wisdom. (rhetorical wordiness is not necessary. Just give us the juice.)

  • Anonymous
    on October 4, 2011 at 11:07 am
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    You sound like a nerd.

    • Ripp
      on October 5, 2011 at 5:16 am
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      Is that you King A? Or perhaps one of your dickless disciples?