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Speaking of…googled Ben Carson’s wife? :/
On another note, to CH et al.,
seeking advice, and if it can be expanded into a post by CH, all the better.
My game-related questions (touched upon previously, I’m sure):
1. How fatal is it if on a first date there is mild kino but it fails to escalate? Would that basically shut down the works and you end up losing the girl?
2. How fatal, following # 1, is it to get the dreaded “hug” (CH has also written about the scrotum-shrinking properties of the girl hug) at the end of the date?
I ask because I had gone out on a date that ended up with the above. Now the lame mild kino (touching her hands and arms) I did do she was receptive to but she did not “reciprocate”. She seems very passive. I have no excuse for escalation except for plain cowardice / lack of intestinal fortitude.
She did comply when I told her to sit next to me in the bar rather than across from me and she did wrap her arm around mine when walking when i gestured to her. She didn’t balk at this.
I texted the following day later in the afternoon (i.e., today) to find out her schedule. Her response: busy this week, busy next.
This is the same girl who balked at texting me back when I asked for dates and times last weekend when she said she couldn’t meet because she was away that weekend in another relatively far-off city (i.e., San JOse to my San Francisco).
Though the sample size of behavior is small, her saying she’s busy this week and next without offering some times to meet suggest either extremely passivity to gain complete hand over me, or she simply isn’t that into me and is maximizing her options.
Note: she’s 29, I’m 41. when I told her my age after forcing her to guess, she said it wasn’t such a big gap, though I don’t know if she said that to make me feel better or to make herself feel better. I couldn’t tell.
she’s divorced (!) and from North Carolina. She does freelance video work…I don’t know if any of this is pertinent…..
So I seek analysis of where I went wrong and to what extent. I guess it’s the lack of escalation, but how damaging was it?
And to follow:
should I just let go of this girl? It’s starting to seem like a time-drain.
“1. How fatal is it if on a first date there is mild kino but it fails to escalate? Would that basically shut down the works and you end up losing the girl?”
Not necessarily. Although you need to get used to try to kiss on the first date if the vibe is reasonably well. Optimal: Go in and kiss, or she cheek turns you, you laugh and just keep talking like a normal human being. The fact that you didn’t get jittery or in your head about it bodes well. Not optimal: her sensing fear that you wanted to escalate but did not.
“2. How fatal, following # 1, is it to get the dreaded “hug” (CH has also written about the scrotum-shrinking properties of the girl hug) at the end of the date? ”
Not always, but in this situation that tiny bit of uncertainty that you had could have her thinking “Ummm he’s a nice guy and all but I don’t think I’m really feeling it” aka you weren’t the boss of your own domain therefore it was tough for you to take risks like teasing her harder or going for a kiss. All that being said, you should stay on her radar with off handed texts and push again for another meetup because…you just never know :)
“Now the lame mild kino (touching her hands and arms) I did do she was receptive to but she did not “reciprocate”. She seems very passive. I have no excuse for escalation except for plain cowardice / lack of intestinal fortitude. ”
All good man. Don’t be too hard on yourself. You know what to do next time with this girl or another and just think “haha screw it why not…I just wanna see how far I can take this tonight as long as she’s complying…no big deal either way” See it as an experiment rather than your identity is riding on this particular girl’s reactions to you.
“Though the sample size of behavior is small, her saying she’s busy this week and next without offering some times to meet suggest either extremely passivity to gain complete hand over me, or she simply isn’t that into me and is maximizing her options.”
Try not to speculate what someone else is thinking too much. It will only get you in your own head too easily.
“Note: she’s 29, I’m 41. when I told her my age after forcing her to guess, she said it wasn’t such a big gap, though I don’t know if she said that to make me feel better or to make herself feel better.”
Who knows, who cares. I usually get with girls 6-10 years my junior, and only a small percentage of those had a deal breaker with an age gap. Next time, tease her harder with an age question. Absolutely convince her that you are younger than she is…like you are new to drinking and Smirnoff ice is the jam.
“should I just let go of this girl? It’s starting to seem like a time-drain. ”
She’s just one option in your portfolio. Keep at it, don’t care either way what happens, and always give yourself other options. The cream will rise to the top, and the ones that don’t work out won’t matter.
Trump single-handedly tanked this guy’s campaign. In true Trump fashion, he gave him a condescending little pat on the back on his way out “He’s a nice guy and has a great future.”
what gets me about Jeb is he’s fucking tall, right? I don’t know about all this game but tall wins all. And he scored a non-english speaking meso-smurf?
[CH: well, jabe is proof that tall is not all.
ps the best player i’ve known was on the shorter side.]
it’s like, for tall guys, the ceiling’s higher or floor lower or vice versa…whatever it is that means that even a mumbling serial masterbatory slouch tall-boy should do just as well as 5’8″ game master.
[CH: tallness — up to a point — is an SMV advantage for men. but so are a load of other character traits, like wealth, social status, social acumen, charisma, looks, personality, talent, and the big kahuna POWER. tallness is not nearly the be all-end all men think it is to their chances with cute girls. i would say a man’s height only becomes a real problem picking up girls when it dips below 5’6″. really short guys will have trouble even with short girls.]
Being 5’4″ has really been a blessing: I was forced to understand women better and take more chances.
I can say since the beginning of my gaming career (circa 2009) that the majority of my results have come from the 5’8″ish down to my height. I don’t know if this is by design or that the majority of girls in the range don’t mind a guy slightly shorter (but not too much) if he is confident and knows what he’s doing.
The hottest girls by far that I have snagged are in the 5’9″ up to 6’3″ (not even kidding…how badass that christmas card would be lol). Mixed results in this range as it’s a bit far off the height discrepency…but agreed there is a significant number of stunners in this range that absolutely do not give a fuck. Even to me, it never gets old when one flirts with me in that “if you have half a brain you can proceed forward but don’t even think I’m gonna help you” kinda way.
CH what I will agree with you on is the girls my height to about 5′. I hate to generalize, but honestly height can be a BIG deal to a lot of these girls, and to a lot of them getting a guy much taller than them is the dream. I blame disney ;)