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on April 30th, 2015 at 12:52 pm
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Fucking lol at Roosh on Dr Oz. The best part is reading the thread on their forum. This is the same forum that RAPED Juline for his apology:

The entire world hated him, way beyond anything Roosh felt in that TV studio. The dude was banned from a country at the point of this apology. And the footage people saw was cut up to make Julien look way more of a vagina than he actually was in this uncut footage where he’s holding eye-contact, holding his voice tone, making statements, dropping solid quick soundbyte snippets and rebuttals for the EXTREMELY hostile interviewer, constantly bringing the discussion back to the positive frame about what RSD teaches, etc.

They RAPED them for this, oh it’s the END of RSD! RSD’s days are limited! Look at this pussy, throwing everyone under the bus! What a pussy! How can RSD ignore this?! RSD has to address this and fight back or their company will go bankrupt!! The media won’t forget in 10 days that’s crazy!!

Then their hero Roosh goes on Dr Oz and their entire fucking forum is like “Roosh nailed this!” “I can’t imagine anyone seeing this as a failure!” “Roosh you’re amazing, wow the pressure on you must have been severe, you did SO well against those odds!” “Oh what you have a problem with Roosh? I’d like to see YOUR example of how to do an interview with people who hate you!! Let’s see YOUR body language!!” I even saw one poster say “don’t worry this’ll all blow over quick, the media will forget in a week” lol The exact shit that was so pussy when RSD was saying it. Meanwhile Julien is still doing tours and RSD is doing just fine and no one gives a fuck…Julien is literally telling girls in-field to google his name on their phone and is using all that world-hated publicity to market his new product:

Boy did RSD fuck that up. lol.

Reality check for the fanbois: Roosh went in ridiculously naive (which I can’t even understand considering how much he hates on America in general, how do you not know daytime TV will be an ambush for the fat mom market?), spent 90% of the interview staring at the floor, stammered over every second word to the point where he sounded legitimately autistic or something (I’ve seen Roosh’s YouTube vids and he speaks well, but THIS was NOT a good performance of that).

He wasn’t prepared to drop quick soundbites, he wasn’t prepared to debate anything. “Here’s 50 studies that show fat shaming doesn’t work” “Shaming has lowered the number of people who smoke. Shaming has lowered the number of people who drive drunk.” “I think all women are fascinating on the inside” “Ok how many of these women are dating a guy who’s under 5’4″? And short guys can’t just go on a diet and grow.” How do you not have those most basic rebuttals locked and loaded in the back of your head going onto something like this?

This was a massacre. And it was a massacre because they went in the same way the “manosphere guy with no Skype photo” guy and Cernovich went in, naively expecting a fair discussion based on logic instead of feels:

I know Cernovich thinks this was a huge win and I’m not hating on him ’cause i don’t think he’s a bad guy, just really passionate about shit. But he looks ridiculous here. Kluwe makes him look like an idiot. It’s not that Cernovich was WRONG or that Kluwe made any kind of good logical rational arguments. All Kluwe did was throw out feels and insinuations and snark and lol’ing at Mike reacting to him, and all of Mike’s answers require long explanations as he tries to play nice and respectful. And NO ONE is going to sit through a 90 minute discussion to hear Mike’s responses, they’re going to click through the vid and see Kluwe laughing and Mike bouncing all over the screen, then another click and hear a false accusation Kluwe makes up, then another click and see Mike stammering trying to clarify something, then another click and Kluwe is lol’ing again sitting back in his chair relaxed no fucks given…it doesn’t matter what’s actually said, Kluwe wins the modern media game.

I’ve said it a thousand fucking times every time a manosphere guy goes into the public for one of these rapes: YOU CANNOT WIN THESE PEOPLE OVER. They do NOT want a debate with you. For them to admit they were wrong, it would bring their ENTIRE world view into question on so many levels. Anyone who seriously thought Roosh was going to go on and school Dr Oz on his own show, like they don’t have protocol already designed for if a guest doesn’t give them good soundbytes (just show clips of him looking sad on loop, no one cares) or walks off the set (oh he couldn’t handle Dr Oz’s truth!) etc. is naive as fuck. Or what, Dr Oz was going to go “you know Roosh, you have some good points!”? lol come on.

Even the GUYS in the audience will be against him. Because his views challenge their comfortable Blue Pill life.

The way to win these things is to go in KNOWING that they’re going to try to rape you, and focus on the mindset of “I won’t convince these people of anything, but I can make some good points for the 10% of the audience who’s realizing something is off with the Blue Pill, to get them to go check out Red Pill material and wake up and join us”. You need to speak to the silent 10%, the husband who walks by the TV set as his fat wife on the couch jeers at the misogynist on Dr Oz but that misogynist drops a solid soundbyte that clicks with him and gets him to google who that guest on Dr Oz today was and starts his journey from there.

You’ll still get raked over the coals and painted as a huge monster, but you’ll convert a few guys.

…of course that assumes that the reason you’re going on these shows is for the selfless benefit of improving other men’s lives and waking them up so you’re willing to sacrifice yourself and take a hit to your image, instead of going on them hoping to build your brand and fanclub. :P

I think Roosh could do okay, but with his slow speaking style he needs EVERY word to count because he’s never going to get more than a couple minutes to speak. The thing about men and logic and going to the gym is a good point, but it took him like 30 seconds to get it out. He should have that down to a 10 second “Men respond to logic. If you tell a man women like muscles, he’ll sign up for the gym.” It would help if Roosh was more naturally charismatic, but since he’s not he could at least work on wording his snippets to have some humor/wit in them so he doesn’t sound so autistic. “Men respond to logic. If you tell a man he has a nice haircut, he’ll still have that same haircut 15 years later when it isn’t cool anymore lol” “Sure, you’re FASCINATED by them. Just like women are FASCINATED by the guy who looks like Danny Devito without the celebrity status…but we both know we’re not talking about FASCINATION, Doc”

I don’t think Roosh has the charisma to represent the Red Pill well. I get that on paper he’s doing a lot of things right, but unless you really WANT to listen to Roosh, he’s just not captivating. He can work on that, and should if he’s going to do more TV appearances, but this performance specifically was not a win. At BEST it was an “it wasn’t THAT bad”. Anyone who thinks otherwise is as much of a Roosh fanboi as I am an RSD fanboi lol


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on April 30th, 2015 at 12:52 pm
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Fucking lol at Roosh on Dr Oz. The best part is reading the thread on their forum. This is the same forum that RAPED Juline for his apology:

The entire world hated him, way beyond anything Roosh felt in that TV studio. The dude was banned from a country at the point of this apology. And the footage people saw was cut up to make Julien look way more of a vagina than he actually was in this uncut footage where he’s holding eye-contact, holding his voice tone, making statements, dropping solid quick soundbyte snippets and rebuttals for the EXTREMELY hostile interviewer, constantly bringing the discussion back to the positive frame about what RSD teaches, etc.

They RAPED them for this, oh it’s the END of RSD! RSD’s days are limited! Look at this pussy, throwing everyone under the bus! What a pussy! How can RSD ignore this?! RSD has to address this and fight back or their company will go bankrupt!! The media won’t forget in 10 days that’s crazy!!

Then their hero Roosh goes on Dr Oz and their entire fucking forum is like “Roosh nailed this!” “I can’t imagine anyone seeing this as a failure!” “Roosh you’re amazing, wow the pressure on you must have been severe, you did SO well against those odds!” “Oh what you have a problem with Roosh? I’d like to see YOUR example of how to do an interview with people who hate you!! Let’s see YOUR body language!!” I even saw one poster say “don’t worry this’ll all blow over quick, the media will forget in a week” lol The exact shit that was so pussy when RSD was saying it. Meanwhile Julien is still doing tours and RSD is doing just fine and no one gives a fuck…Julien is literally telling girls in-field to google his name on their phone and is using all that world-hated publicity to market his new product:

Boy did RSD fuck that up. lol.

Reality check for the fanbois: Roosh went in ridiculously naive (which I can’t even understand considering how much he hates on America in general, how do you not know daytime TV will be an ambush for the fat mom market?), spent 90% of the interview staring at the floor, stammered over every second word to the point where he sounded legitimately autistic or something (I’ve seen Roosh’s YouTube vids and he speaks well, but THIS was NOT a good performance of that).

He wasn’t prepared to drop quick soundbites, he wasn’t prepared to debate anything. “Here’s 50 studies that show fat shaming doesn’t work” “Shaming has lowered the number of people who smoke. Shaming has lowered the number of people who drive drunk.” “I think all women are fascinating on the inside” “Ok how many of these women are dating a guy who’s under 5’4″? And short guys can’t just go on a diet and grow.” How do you not have those most basic rebuttals locked and loaded in the back of your head going onto something like this?

This was a massacre. And it was a massacre because they went in the same way the “manosphere guy with no Skype photo” guy and Cernovich went in, naively expecting a fair discussion based on logic instead of feels:

I know Cernovich thinks this was a huge win and I’m not hating on him ’cause i don’t think he’s a bad guy, just really passionate about shit. But he looks ridiculous here. Kluwe makes him look like an idiot. It’s not that Cernovich was WRONG or that Kluwe made any kind of good logical rational arguments. All Kluwe did was throw out feels and insinuations and snark and lol’ing at Mike reacting to him, and all of Mike’s answers require long explanations as he tries to play nice and respectful. And NO ONE is going to sit through a 90 minute discussion to hear Mike’s responses, they’re going to click through the vid and see Kluwe laughing and Mike bouncing all over the screen, then another click and hear a false accusation Kluwe makes up, then another click and see Mike stammering trying to clarify something, then another click and Kluwe is lol’ing again sitting back in his chair relaxed no fucks given…it doesn’t matter what’s actually said, Kluwe wins the modern media game.

I’ve said it a thousand fucking times every time a manosphere guy goes into the public for one of these rapes: YOU CANNOT WIN THESE PEOPLE OVER. They do NOT want a debate with you. For them to admit they were wrong, it would bring their ENTIRE world view into question on so many levels. Anyone who seriously thought Roosh was going to go on and school Dr Oz on his own show, like they don’t have protocol already designed for if a guest doesn’t give them good soundbytes (just show clips of him looking sad on loop, no one cares) or walks off the set (oh he couldn’t handle Dr Oz’s truth!) etc. is naive as fuck. Or what, Dr Oz was going to go “you know Roosh, you have some good points!”? lol come on.

Even the GUYS in the audience will be against him. Because his views challenge their comfortable Blue Pill life.

The way to win these things is to go in KNOWING that they’re going to try to rape you, and focus on the mindset of “I won’t convince these people of anything, but I can make some good points for the 10% of the audience who’s realizing something is off with the Blue Pill, to get them to go check out Red Pill material and wake up and join us”. You need to speak to the silent 10%, the husband who walks by the TV set as his fat wife on the couch jeers at the misogynist on Dr Oz but that misogynist drops a solid soundbyte that clicks with him and gets him to google who that guest on Dr Oz today was and starts his journey from there.

You’ll still get raked over the coals and painted as a huge monster, but you’ll convert a few guys.

…of course that assumes that the reason you’re going on these shows is for the selfless benefit of improving other men’s lives and waking them up so you’re willing to sacrifice yourself and take a hit to your image, instead of going on them hoping to build your brand and fanclub. 😛

I think Roosh could do okay, but with his slow speaking style he needs EVERY word to count because he’s never going to get more than a couple minutes to speak. The thing about men and logic and going to the gym is a good point, but it took him like 30 seconds to get it out. He should have that down to a 10 second “Men respond to logic. If you tell a man women like muscles, he’ll sign up for the gym.” It would help if Roosh was more naturally charismatic, but since he’s not he could at least work on wording his snippets to have some humor/wit in them so he doesn’t sound so autistic. “Men respond to logic. If you tell a man he has a nice haircut, he’ll still have that same haircut 15 years later when it isn’t cool anymore lol” “Sure, you’re FASCINATED by them. Just like women are FASCINATED by the guy who looks like Danny Devito without the celebrity status…but we both know we’re not talking about FASCINATION, Doc”

I don’t think Roosh has the charisma to represent the Red Pill well. I get that on paper he’s doing a lot of things right, but unless you really WANT to listen to Roosh, he’s just not captivating. He can work on that, and should if he’s going to do more TV appearances, but this performance specifically was not a win. At BEST it was an “it wasn’t THAT bad”. Anyone who thinks otherwise is as much of a Roosh fanboi as I am an RSD fanboi lol


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on April 30th, 2015 at 1:31 pm
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@Sun Wukong
Ya, it’s not that he isn’t well-spoken in his YouTube vids, it’s that it’s not going to play well in the media circuit over here just like it probably doesn’t go over in a chaotic nightclub where girls have ADD and there’s loud music and stimulus everywhere compared to a quiet half-empty lounge.

Roosh could do better if he wants to. But he’ll have to actively work on that and take this interview as a wake-up to step his game up. Maybe that can be the next chapter of his life since he’s getting bored with pickup itself: work on becoming better at PR and the media circuit to promote the Red Pill.

And he has to do it NOW, like hiring a media coach and actively studying this shit before he does another appearance. This isn’t the old days, you can’t spend 10 years fucking up the media circuit before you get comfortable at it and no one will see because that was the 80s and the interview is at best on some old VHS tape somewhere. EVERY mistake you make from the moment you step out of the gate is on YouTube preserved forever and will be spliced into a montage to use against you when the SJWs attack. If you want to go represent the Red Pill in the media then you better be actively learning to do that WELL.

To Roosh’s credit, ’cause this whole event was probably a huge mental ass-fuck for him, he did some shit well:

1) He looks good now. He doesn’t look like some mountain man ungroomed hermit anymore, he looks like a dude where you first see him and go “ok, I’ll listen to this guy’s message, he LOOKS like a high-value guy at first glance”. As much as I don’t care for suits in pickup, it helps in the media where people are going to judge you on the split second they see you as they pass the TV set.

2) He makes valid points and he DID try to steer the conversation back to what he wanted to say. The content he’s putting out is good content, but it’s going to keep getting steamrolled if he doesn’t chop it up into rehearsed soundbite and make it more charismatic/entertaining to listen to. He needs people to go “haha that’s so true, no wait I mean I’m offended booooo!!” I don’t think Roosh is naturally very social, he sticks to his bubble and one on one conversations, so when he has to joke around with someone hostile or a crowd that isn’t immediately welcoming to what he’s saying, he freezes up because he’s out of his comfort zone. Running more group/mixed sets infield would help with this lol If you can’t keep a gaggle of drunk chicks and their AMOG boyfriends engaged and win them over, how are you going to hold your own against a Dr Oz? This is entirely fixable if he wants to fix it but usually a guy’s ego is what will hold him back from this part…the same ego that won’t let them learn routines in pickup because they want to do it all natural even even Naturals use their own streamlined soundbite routines.

3) He didn’t get angry or explode, which is what they were hoping for. Which to his credit, against all that pressure, is pretty impressive. Like it could’ve been a LOT worse, most guys would have exploded, but focusing on staying calm and having the frame of being the only sane person in the room is great. That’s actually my biggest critique for other guys who try going up against the media like Cernovich: they react too much and it’s way too easy to get them riled up because they’re passionate about their message and all it takes is a couple purposeful misinterpretations or accusations and they fly off the handle trying to defend themselves and get sidetracked into no man’s land where they’re not prepared. Watch how Julien keeps bringing things back to the message he wants to give instead of getting sucked into huge long side tangents. Roosh isn’t great at this yet, and few people would be in that situation, but I can see him at least ATTEMPTING it. So good on him. The last thing the media needs is a Red Pill guy flying off the handle and proving “See they’re just frustrated angry misogynists”. Calm, cool, collected, but with charisma.

We all have bad nights and we all get blown out, and one bad set doesn’t summarize a person’s worth. All you can do is try to do better tomorrow. But this is entering the big dog’s game…either step it up or don’t enter, ’cause they will eat you alive.


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on April 30th, 2015 at 1:31 pm
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@Sun Wukong
Ya, it’s not that he isn’t well-spoken in his YouTube vids, it’s that it’s not going to play well in the media circuit over here just like it probably doesn’t go over in a chaotic nightclub where girls have ADD and there’s loud music and stimulus everywhere compared to a quiet half-empty lounge.

Roosh could do better if he wants to. But he’ll have to actively work on that and take this interview as a wake-up to step his game up. Maybe that can be the next chapter of his life since he’s getting bored with pickup itself: work on becoming better at PR and the media circuit to promote the Red Pill.

And he has to do it NOW, like hiring a media coach and actively studying this shit before he does another appearance. This isn’t the old days, you can’t spend 10 years fucking up the media circuit before you get comfortable at it and no one will see because that was the 80s and the interview is at best on some old VHS tape somewhere. EVERY mistake you make from the moment you step out of the gate is on YouTube preserved forever and will be spliced into a montage to use against you when the SJWs attack. If you want to go represent the Red Pill in the media then you better be actively learning to do that WELL.

To Roosh’s credit, ’cause this whole event was probably a huge mental ass-fuck for him, he did some shit well:

1) He looks good now. He doesn’t look like some mountain man ungroomed hermit anymore, he looks like a dude where you first see him and go “ok, I’ll listen to this guy’s message, he LOOKS like a high-value guy at first glance”. As much as I don’t care for suits in pickup, it helps in the media where people are going to judge you on the split second they see you as they pass the TV set.

2) He makes valid points and he DID try to steer the conversation back to what he wanted to say. The content he’s putting out is good content, but it’s going to keep getting steamrolled if he doesn’t chop it up into rehearsed soundbite and make it more charismatic/entertaining to listen to. He needs people to go “haha that’s so true, no wait I mean I’m offended booooo!!” I don’t think Roosh is naturally very social, he sticks to his bubble and one on one conversations, so when he has to joke around with someone hostile or a crowd that isn’t immediately welcoming to what he’s saying, he freezes up because he’s out of his comfort zone. Running more group/mixed sets infield would help with this lol If you can’t keep a gaggle of drunk chicks and their AMOG boyfriends engaged and win them over, how are you going to hold your own against a Dr Oz? This is entirely fixable if he wants to fix it but usually a guy’s ego is what will hold him back from this part…the same ego that won’t let them learn routines in pickup because they want to do it all natural even even Naturals use their own streamlined soundbite routines.

3) He didn’t get angry or explode, which is what they were hoping for. Which to his credit, against all that pressure, is pretty impressive. Like it could’ve been a LOT worse, most guys would have exploded, but focusing on staying calm and having the frame of being the only sane person in the room is great. That’s actually my biggest critique for other guys who try going up against the media like Cernovich: they react too much and it’s way too easy to get them riled up because they’re passionate about their message and all it takes is a couple purposeful misinterpretations or accusations and they fly off the handle trying to defend themselves and get sidetracked into no man’s land where they’re not prepared. Watch how Julien keeps bringing things back to the message he wants to give instead of getting sucked into huge long side tangents. Roosh isn’t great at this yet, and few people would be in that situation, but I can see him at least ATTEMPTING it. So good on him. The last thing the media needs is a Red Pill guy flying off the handle and proving “See they’re just frustrated angry misogynists”. Calm, cool, collected, but with charisma.

We all have bad nights and we all get blown out, and one bad set doesn’t summarize a person’s worth. All you can do is try to do better tomorrow. But this is entering the big dog’s game…either step it up or don’t enter, ’cause they will eat you alive.


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on April 30th, 2015 at 1:39 pm
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@Rollo
To be honest I guess I’m naive myself, I didn’t even realize there’s payment involved in these shows lol So I wasn’t even thinking about that angle.

But I don’t even care if he DOES cash in. Go nuts, just cash in in a way that helps men instead of makes them go “ya those red pill guys look like weird autists, I’m not checking out that forum or reading those books”. That’s why I don’t care that RSD makes money, because they put out a ton of free content and guys get help from it. So that’s fine, go ahead and make some money off it. I haven’t paid a dime to learn pickup.

But if you’re going to cash in and go public, then you better step your shit up or you’re just going to do damage and turn that 10% of guys in the audience who are unhappy with their lives, off. THAT is your target on these things, not the person right in front of you, that person isn’t going to help you. That person is the obstacle you have to be prepared to work around to get your talking points (refined into charismatic snippets) out to that 10% of guys.

Would be curious to know if he did make any bank off it. I missed it if he said he did, so I don’t want to be that guy that’s like “I bet he made millions” what a sellout and perpetuate gossip/rumors if it’s not confirmed for sure. Either way though, I can’t fault him. If he goes on and nails an appearance the way he should be prepared to AND makes bank off it, then good on him lol

But like the couple voices no one is listening to on his forum say: there’s no winning. The media will not embrace the Red Pill. At BEST they would embrace a watered down form of it under a COMPLETELY different label. They will never hold Roosh up as someone to respect and admire. It can’t happen. But he can spread the word out to that 10% that will listen if he sharpens up.


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@Rollo
To be honest I guess I’m naive myself, I didn’t even realize there’s payment involved in these shows lol So I wasn’t even thinking about that angle.

But I don’t even care if he DOES cash in. Go nuts, just cash in in a way that helps men instead of makes them go “ya those red pill guys look like weird autists, I’m not checking out that forum or reading those books”. That’s why I don’t care that RSD makes money, because they put out a ton of free content and guys get help from it. So that’s fine, go ahead and make some money off it. I haven’t paid a dime to learn pickup.

But if you’re going to cash in and go public, then you better step your shit up or you’re just going to do damage and turn that 10% of guys in the audience who are unhappy with their lives, off. THAT is your target on these things, not the person right in front of you, that person isn’t going to help you. That person is the obstacle you have to be prepared to work around to get your talking points (refined into charismatic snippets) out to that 10% of guys.

Would be curious to know if he did make any bank off it. I missed it if he said he did, so I don’t want to be that guy that’s like “I bet he made millions” what a sellout and perpetuate gossip/rumors if it’s not confirmed for sure. Either way though, I can’t fault him. If he goes on and nails an appearance the way he should be prepared to AND makes bank off it, then good on him lol

But like the couple voices no one is listening to on his forum say: there’s no winning. The media will not embrace the Red Pill. At BEST they would embrace a watered down form of it under a COMPLETELY different label. They will never hold Roosh up as someone to respect and admire. It can’t happen. But he can spread the word out to that 10% that will listen if he sharpens up.


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“Roosh has the balls to go on one of the most feminine bullshit mainstream quack shows and tell it like it is in front of everyone and make no apologies.”

I agree. But that’s also the reason that he should have been better prepared. I can’t believe that he would think he was going on some rational debate 60 minutes type show. To think that he would have to actively have no idea how the media has handled similar guys before and would have had to have not even YouTube searched Dr Oz to see what kind of show he was going on. Like, I don’t want to fully jump on board with what I think Rollo is implying, but I also can’t see Roosh being dumb enough to go in that blind. That’s like one of us going on Jerry Springer expecting a rational discussion about something…it would be insulting to think that anyone was that dumb/naive. Esp when Roosh isn’t some random dude, he’s running Return of Kings and fighting with Jezebel on the regular and like Rollo says he knows how people handled Julien and Elliot Rodger etc.

So I don’t feel like I know enough about it to guess at the intentions and motives behind this, but I CAN critique the actual appearance and how it fits into the mainstream’s view of TRP.

@Lucien

“He didn’t conform to the masculine aggressor stereotype.”

I agree with this completely. The other mistake guys make is “Dude you should have gone right back at him!! Get in his face about his credentials and talk over him and dominate that shit!!!” The Cernovich PR model basically that he said RSD should be using. No, that approach is stupid and feeds right into their narrative. They’ll edit out all your points and just show montages of your angry-ass face and frustrated voice. The way to win these things is to stay calm, rational, hold your frame, but make good concise undeniable points.


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“Roosh has the balls to go on one of the most feminine bullshit mainstream quack shows and tell it like it is in front of everyone and make no apologies.”

I agree. But that’s also the reason that he should have been better prepared. I can’t believe that he would think he was going on some rational debate 60 minutes type show. To think that he would have to actively have no idea how the media has handled similar guys before and would have had to have not even YouTube searched Dr Oz to see what kind of show he was going on. Like, I don’t want to fully jump on board with what I think Rollo is implying, but I also can’t see Roosh being dumb enough to go in that blind. That’s like one of us going on Jerry Springer expecting a rational discussion about something…it would be insulting to think that anyone was that dumb/naive. Esp when Roosh isn’t some random dude, he’s running Return of Kings and fighting with Jezebel on the regular and like Rollo says he knows how people handled Julien and Elliot Rodger etc.

So I don’t feel like I know enough about it to guess at the intentions and motives behind this, but I CAN critique the actual appearance and how it fits into the mainstream’s view of TRP.

@Lucien

“He didn’t conform to the masculine aggressor stereotype.”

I agree with this completely. The other mistake guys make is “Dude you should have gone right back at him!! Get in his face about his credentials and talk over him and dominate that shit!!!” The Cernovich PR model basically that he said RSD should be using. No, that approach is stupid and feeds right into their narrative. They’ll edit out all your points and just show montages of your angry-ass face and frustrated voice. The way to win these things is to stay calm, rational, hold your frame, but make good concise undeniable points.


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@Sun Wukong @NBTM
“Most of us can’t step forward to do the same without an attack on our livelihood. For him stepping forward is his livelihood.”

This. There’s no real benefit for most of us to going public, and for the Manosphere all it does is give the haters a face and name to try to use to slander you with, if they don’t flat out destroy your livelihood. But if Roosh is determined to go public and make this his life, then he should WANT to do better at it and improve where he can. Like Mr Miyagi said: Left side of road good, right side good, middle of road squash like grape.

“Blue Pill is the frame for everyone in the audience, yet you’re trying to make a Red Pill point without being able to establish that frame or the underlying concepts first.”

Right. And you’re going to GET that point with that audience on that day. You would have to sit with them and openly discuss shit for hours to even start to get to where you can make your points.

But if you make short concise charismatic undeniable points that you’ve practiced and have locked and loaded, that 10% of dudes who stumbles across the YouTube vid of it or sees this discussion somewhere and checks it out or sees his wife watching it or catches a re-run on TV, and already has a bit of an inkling toward thinking this way, he’s going to go “hmm, I want to know more about what this guy is saying”. THAT’S your audience.

@Lucien
“Damn, I looked at the Julien Blanc video as well. This is upsetting; these people aren’t getting out the part of their message that is good. They’re not redirecting to feminism and feminized culture. They’re not making the bigger point.”

I would say in Julien’s case he was there to defend RSD as a company, not make a bigger point. Like that was damage control that he was forced into, backed into a corner with a company and salaries reputations etc. of his friends/co-workers on the line etc. so his interview would naturally be a lot more defensive than Roosh’s. If he got out of there just getting the pressure off RSD at ALL, that’s enough of a win.

Roosh on the other hand actively sought attention through this program and then showed up to the game without a ball. Like there was no reason to go on Dr Oz except to actively try to promote the Red Pill, promote himself and his brand, or promote both. So you should be prepared as FUCK for that.

I am lol’ing hard at the thread on his forum where everyone is like oh we can’t critique him, sure we can all be armchair jockeys about what we’d do, oh look at those guys on reddit playing armchair jockey. All of these homos were happy to play armchair jockey when it was Julien in the hot seat lol So far as I’m concerned both their performances are up for critique. Julien didn’t do amazing, but compared to what we just saw Roosh do? Julien was at least looking in the direction of the fucking host and talking coherently lol And you can bet the CNN guys weren’t offering him mints and shit backstage. He’s a kid too, like mid-late 20s I think.

@rugby11ljh
“Holy hell this guys my age Julien and the FI did a huge job annihalating his existence.”

lol Julien’s doing fine now. The notoriety has really only helped. RSD took a few hits but nothing severe at all. The media forgot all about him within a couple weeks. No one is tweeting hate about Julien anymore and his bootcamps etc. proceed as usual. He’s talked about it in a few videos and the jist is that he was expecting to get lynch mobbed left and right but in the end no one cares and he just reframes it with girls “oh you know the media they hype everything and exaggerate it, it’s all lies” with girls. Zero consequence. RSD isn’t shutting down in 2 months, bouncers aren’t banning them from their clubs. Fucking ridiculous that people would even think that and let themselves get sucked into running around like chickens with their head cut off…’course no one is gonna’ admit they were wrong and YaReally the fanboi was right as usual lol

Going mainstream should not be about convincing Dr Oz or his audience to swallow the Red Pill. No man accepts the Red Pill until he’s hit rock bottom and seeks it and even then it’s a struggle. These media appearances should be done with the understanding that you are sacrificing public opinion of yourself for helping reach the men that need to hear the message. It should be a selfless act. If it’s not, then don’t do it, because you can NOT win over Dr Oz’s fat zombie crowd.


Obesity Culture

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YaReally
on April 30th, 2015 at 2:38 pm
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@Sun Wukong @NBTM
“Most of us can’t step forward to do the same without an attack on our livelihood. For him stepping forward is his livelihood.”

This. There’s no real benefit for most of us to going public, and for the Manosphere all it does is give the haters a face and name to try to use to slander you with, if they don’t flat out destroy your livelihood. But if Roosh is determined to go public and make this his life, then he should WANT to do better at it and improve where he can. Like Mr Miyagi said: Left side of road good, right side good, middle of road squash like grape.

“Blue Pill is the frame for everyone in the audience, yet you’re trying to make a Red Pill point without being able to establish that frame or the underlying concepts first.”

Right. And you’re going to GET that point with that audience on that day. You would have to sit with them and openly discuss shit for hours to even start to get to where you can make your points.

But if you make short concise charismatic undeniable points that you’ve practiced and have locked and loaded, that 10% of dudes who stumbles across the YouTube vid of it or sees this discussion somewhere and checks it out or sees his wife watching it or catches a re-run on TV, and already has a bit of an inkling toward thinking this way, he’s going to go “hmm, I want to know more about what this guy is saying”. THAT’S your audience.

@Lucien
“Damn, I looked at the Julien Blanc video as well. This is upsetting; these people aren’t getting out the part of their message that is good. They’re not redirecting to feminism and feminized culture. They’re not making the bigger point.”

I would say in Julien’s case he was there to defend RSD as a company, not make a bigger point. Like that was damage control that he was forced into, backed into a corner with a company and salaries reputations etc. of his friends/co-workers on the line etc. so his interview would naturally be a lot more defensive than Roosh’s. If he got out of there just getting the pressure off RSD at ALL, that’s enough of a win.

Roosh on the other hand actively sought attention through this program and then showed up to the game without a ball. Like there was no reason to go on Dr Oz except to actively try to promote the Red Pill, promote himself and his brand, or promote both. So you should be prepared as FUCK for that.

I am lol’ing hard at the thread on his forum where everyone is like oh we can’t critique him, sure we can all be armchair jockeys about what we’d do, oh look at those guys on reddit playing armchair jockey. All of these homos were happy to play armchair jockey when it was Julien in the hot seat lol So far as I’m concerned both their performances are up for critique. Julien didn’t do amazing, but compared to what we just saw Roosh do? Julien was at least looking in the direction of the fucking host and talking coherently lol And you can bet the CNN guys weren’t offering him mints and shit backstage. He’s a kid too, like mid-late 20s I think.

@rugby11ljh
“Holy hell this guys my age Julien and the FI did a huge job annihalating his existence.”

lol Julien’s doing fine now. The notoriety has really only helped. RSD took a few hits but nothing severe at all. The media forgot all about him within a couple weeks. No one is tweeting hate about Julien anymore and his bootcamps etc. proceed as usual. He’s talked about it in a few videos and the jist is that he was expecting to get lynch mobbed left and right but in the end no one cares and he just reframes it with girls “oh you know the media they hype everything and exaggerate it, it’s all lies” with girls. Zero consequence. RSD isn’t shutting down in 2 months, bouncers aren’t banning them from their clubs. Fucking ridiculous that people would even think that and let themselves get sucked into running around like chickens with their head cut off…’course no one is gonna’ admit they were wrong and YaReally the fanboi was right as usual lol

Going mainstream should not be about convincing Dr Oz or his audience to swallow the Red Pill. No man accepts the Red Pill until he’s hit rock bottom and seeks it and even then it’s a struggle. These media appearances should be done with the understanding that you are sacrificing public opinion of yourself for helping reach the men that need to hear the message. It should be a selfless act. If it’s not, then don’t do it, because you can NOT win over Dr Oz’s fat zombie crowd.


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YaReally
on April 30th, 2015 at 5:06 pm
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@M3
Thanks for writing that incel thing you did. I’ve linked that around to help people understand what my life used to be like. Can’t remember if I gave you props for it yet or not but since you’re here there ya go lol

Anyway, on media Tyler breaks it down in detail here. The media and crowd don’t want nuanced points. They want simplistic truths:

This is where Roosh and Cernovich failed, they both try to make nuanced points because as Red Pill guys we KNOW shit isn’t black and white and there’s tons of shades of grey and we want to account for the possibility that we’re wrong and have to reconsider our ideas because we’re self-aware etc.

But that’s not how the media works. Either learn how to play the media game or don’t go out there and try to take it head-on. RSD, especially during Mystery’s VH1 show and ESPECIALLY when Julien was being burned at the stake, was getting offers like Dr Oz. They’d LOVE to have Tyler go on there and play some spliced together out of context montage of him saying horrible shit and watch him squirm.

But he KNOWS that, so he doesn’t go on those shows. Instead he puts up these hour long videos online of him making his long nuanced points to a crowd of receptive dudes, where he can fully explain himself and the guys who check his vids out are going to hear his full point and be able to decide for themselves if it clicks with their world view.


Obesity Culture

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YaReally
on April 30th, 2015 at 5:06 pm
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@M3
Thanks for writing that incel thing you did. I’ve linked that around to help people understand what my life used to be like. Can’t remember if I gave you props for it yet or not but since you’re here there ya go lol

Anyway, on media Tyler breaks it down in detail here. The media and crowd don’t want nuanced points. They want simplistic truths:

This is where Roosh and Cernovich failed, they both try to make nuanced points because as Red Pill guys we KNOW shit isn’t black and white and there’s tons of shades of grey and we want to account for the possibility that we’re wrong and have to reconsider our ideas because we’re self-aware etc.

But that’s not how the media works. Either learn how to play the media game or don’t go out there and try to take it head-on. RSD, especially during Mystery’s VH1 show and ESPECIALLY when Julien was being burned at the stake, was getting offers like Dr Oz. They’d LOVE to have Tyler go on there and play some spliced together out of context montage of him saying horrible shit and watch him squirm.

But he KNOWS that, so he doesn’t go on those shows. Instead he puts up these hour long videos online of him making his long nuanced points to a crowd of receptive dudes, where he can fully explain himself and the guys who check his vids out are going to hear his full point and be able to decide for themselves if it clicks with their world view.


Smarter Women More Likely To Be Romantic Failures

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YaReally
on April 28, 2015 at 11:10 am
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“Smart women”.



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YaReally
on April 24th, 2015 at 6:40 pm
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Just passing through, but for what it’s worth that Facebook data chart correlates pretty accurately with what my buddies and I have noticed in-field lol

There are times of the year where all we hear is “sorry I have a boyfriend” and it’s damn near impossible to get them to cheat, times of the year where the girls will start monkey-branch swinging (“oh you know, I’m seeing someone” or “I have a boyfriend (sad face)” lol), times where they’ll start cheating, times where they’re newly single and out to prove something, times where they’re just flat out single AND don’t want to be in a relationship, and then times where they’re difficult to ONS because they’re looking to lock down a relationship and know they have to reign it in to hook a guy so they don’t have to go to their family dinner and say “yes I’m still single” and deal with that shit, and the cycle repeats, and it basically follows the data on that graph.

That’s funny as fuck to me in a “we suspected it from our collected field experience but now “science” has proven what we observed” lol

@Anonymous
“Guilt” lol wtf. One person can’t fulfill all of your needs and it’s ridiculous to expect them to, or for them to expect to be able to. If you aren’t getting sex at home you should get it elsewhere.

Do you love your wife any less? Do you love your mom any less because you love your dad? Do you love your family any less because you love your wife? Do you love your kid any less because you love your wife? No, that’s stupid, you can love more than one person lol

If your wife lost her arms and couldn’t make you a sandwich would you just stop eating? No, that’s retarded. If your wife was too sick to take care of your baby while you’re at work would you just walk out the door to work and be like “good luck figuring out how to open the jar of baby food kiddo”? No you’d get a babysitter.

Just be discreet and wrap your junk up so you don’t bring home any diseases or get this chick preggers, and be a good loving husband and partner when you’re with your wife. I can guarantee there are men who’ve managed to be completely monogamous who treat their wives a lot shittier than you do day to day.

You were silly for entering a contract where one of your main biological urges would be unfulfilled and she was silly for allowing you to enter that contract knowing she couldn’t fulfill that biological urge. You’re both dumb, it’s no one’s fault except the person who invented the silly notion that loving someone means not rolling around and sweating with another person.

Of course there’s the more likely possibility that you get off on the self-flagellating guilt and self-created drama in which case no advice here is going to help you because you desperately want to be a hero with your “I’ll hold this in for the sake of my kids no matter if it eats my soul alive! Better than I should be consumed than they!” romanticizing and if you simply let that go then a huge part of the simultaneous villain/hero identity you’ve created for yourself would be taken away and you’d simply be a normal decent if not perfect husband, instead of some special romance novel lead.

…but hey, don’t listen to me I’m just some asshole on the Internet what do I know lol


Spring Break

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YaReally
on April 24th, 2015 at 6:40 pm
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Just passing through, but for what it’s worth that Facebook data chart correlates pretty accurately with what my buddies and I have noticed in-field lol

There are times of the year where all we hear is “sorry I have a boyfriend” and it’s damn near impossible to get them to cheat, times of the year where the girls will start monkey-branch swinging (“oh you know, I’m seeing someone” or “I have a boyfriend (sad face)” lol), times where they’ll start cheating, times where they’re newly single and out to prove something, times where they’re just flat out single AND don’t want to be in a relationship, and then times where they’re difficult to ONS because they’re looking to lock down a relationship and know they have to reign it in to hook a guy so they don’t have to go to their family dinner and say “yes I’m still single” and deal with that shit, and the cycle repeats, and it basically follows the data on that graph.

That’s funny as fuck to me in a “we suspected it from our collected field experience but now “science” has proven what we observed” lol

@Anonymous
“Guilt” lol wtf. One person can’t fulfill all of your needs and it’s ridiculous to expect them to, or for them to expect to be able to. If you aren’t getting sex at home you should get it elsewhere.

Do you love your wife any less? Do you love your mom any less because you love your dad? Do you love your family any less because you love your wife? Do you love your kid any less because you love your wife? No, that’s stupid, you can love more than one person lol

If your wife lost her arms and couldn’t make you a sandwich would you just stop eating? No, that’s retarded. If your wife was too sick to take care of your baby while you’re at work would you just walk out the door to work and be like “good luck figuring out how to open the jar of baby food kiddo”? No you’d get a babysitter.

Just be discreet and wrap your junk up so you don’t bring home any diseases or get this chick preggers, and be a good loving husband and partner when you’re with your wife. I can guarantee there are men who’ve managed to be completely monogamous who treat their wives a lot shittier than you do day to day.

You were silly for entering a contract where one of your main biological urges would be unfulfilled and she was silly for allowing you to enter that contract knowing she couldn’t fulfill that biological urge. You’re both dumb, it’s no one’s fault except the person who invented the silly notion that loving someone means not rolling around and sweating with another person.

Of course there’s the more likely possibility that you get off on the self-flagellating guilt and self-created drama in which case no advice here is going to help you because you desperately want to be a hero with your “I’ll hold this in for the sake of my kids no matter if it eats my soul alive! Better than I should be consumed than they!” romanticizing and if you simply let that go then a huge part of the simultaneous villain/hero identity you’ve created for yourself would be taken away and you’d simply be a normal decent if not perfect husband, instead of some special romance novel lead.

…but hey, don’t listen to me I’m just some asshole on the Internet what do I know lol


The Game Concept Of Devalidation

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Captain Obvious
on April 23, 2015 at 10:11 am
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My only thought here is that this will be extremely IQ-specific. I’d be interested in the extent to which YR [and “Julien”???] are IQ-aware, and how quickly they re-calibrate on the fly if they are hitting on an HB8+ and suddenly come to realize that she’s an SD stupider than they had assumed. Below a certain IQ threshold, Game probably reduces to “Me Tarzan, you Jane” [which might actually be a pretty good opener for your typical sh!tlib femc*nt like that Marie Harf w*tch at the State Department].


  • Tilikum
    on April 23, 2015 at 10:20 am
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    You can be a LOT nicer to dumb girls if that helps. I actually don’t like the cruelty I have to inflict on smart ones. Its such a waste of my time, I usually just move on.

    I mean who the fuck wants to be gaming allllll the time? Not me homie.


    • YaReally
      on April 24, 2015 at 3:35 pm
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      Captain Obvious
      Reply in mod but short version: you’re wrong.

      “If that sort of thing were to work on a chick with an IQ less than about 115″

      Prison is full of low IQ morons who felt “disrespected” even if they were too dumb to discuss it intellectually, and felt they had to qualify themselves to protect their street rep or balance out the inaccurate opinion someone or a group had of them.


    • YaReally
      on April 26, 2015 at 9:47 pm
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      @Captain Obvious

      Yes. How long do you think calibrating on the fly takes? You just notice some social cues and then say different words than the ones you were saying before, it’s not a big deal. Do you freeze up and go silent when you’re talking to an adult peer and their 5yo kid walks into the room? “I DON’T KNOW HOW TO TALK TO THIS CREATURE, INITIATE RECALIBRATION SEQUENCE IN T MINUS 12 MINUTES.” lol


    • YaReally
      on April 27, 2015 at 2:07 pm
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      @Captain Obvious
      Nope, you’re just theorizing based on stereotypes and guesswork. Go out and try it on a bunch of sets every night for a few months. I get your logic and I get why you think it makes sense, but it doesn’t hold up in-field.

      Girls are paying more attention to your subcommunications than what you’re actually saying, the dumber girls even MORESO. If you rattle off a 20 word sentence but you say it in a negative tone, the girl, no matter how dumb she is, knows you said something negative. She might not get all the words, but she gets the subcomm/vibe of it. Again it’s like dudes in prison who can’t articulate exactly HOW they were disrespected when they killed that guy but they KNOW they were disrespected.

      You’re focused too much on the actual words. A smart chick might pay more attention to the words (tho in a nightclub enviro that’s debatable since they go there to run hog-wild with their emotions), but they all pick up on the subcommunication, which is the level pickup is primarily communicating with them on.

      That’s why when you have your subcomms handled you can say whatever you want and make pretty much any opener work, you’re communicating on a different wavelength than what people would overhear if they just listened to the interaction.



Tilikum
on April 23, 2015 at 10:17 am
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Excellent post. On the same lines, I’m noticing that one of the things that is causing me to be less social lately is the constant need for validation from both women and men in my admittedly overly large circle and even strangers. It’s becoming tiresome and wears on me.

When your Outer Game is reflecting your inner excellence, it literally has its own gravity but you also can’t turn it off. I bring it up because that is MY problem so I have a choice, be less socially available and dole the validation out at crack prices, or risk being an asshole to people who just want to be close to ya.

I chose hermitry haha.


  • YaReally
    on April 23, 2015 at 11:37 am
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    Be selective about who you let into your social circle. Quality over quantity. I’ve done quantity before and it’s fun, especially when you’re younger, but at 30+ I prefer to keep a lower profile on purpose. It means doing more cold approach to get laid instead of riding off easy social circle game, but I like my peace and quiet and cold approach is fun to me so the tradeoff is worth it.

    When you hit a certain level of awesomeness, EVERYONE wants to be your BFF and hang out with you. You chat with some dude in a bar because you’re bored and he’s beside you and next thing you know buddy is trying to invite you to shit. Because to him you’re some high-value guy that he would be lucky to have in his social circle. But as cruel as it sounds, you have to ask yourself “what value does this guy bring me? Of course HE benefits by having ME around, but do I really benefit from having him around or is he just taking value?”

    Some dudes (and ugly chicks etc.) give value back, but the VAST majority are fully entrenched in the value-taking “I’m a special snowflake everyone should want to give me value and I shouldn’t have to put any effort in” mindset society conditions into them these days.

    I have a buddy who accidentally was nice to some chode dude and now the guy calls and txts him CONSTANTLY, complaining about his GF troubles and shit. It’s hilarious to me cause I told him not to buddy up with the guy but he was like “but I don’t want to be a jerk”. Now he’s gotta’ deal with this shit all the time lol

    Be very very very picky with who you spend your time with. Life is short, don’t waste it on people who don’t deserve your energy or help you improve yourself.


    • YaReally
      on April 24, 2015 at 5:49 am
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      Shit, sorry Matt, my buddy didn’t mean to diss you. I’ll tell him the next time you text him to just tell you to your face that you’re a crybaby. lol

      Your advice is great. It’s exactly what a guy that no one wants to be friends with and has no idea what people draining your time and energy without giving value back is like. Just like the guy who says “if *I* was a celebrity I would sign EVERY AUTOGRAPH EVER”, because he hasn’t had someone bang on the door of the toilet stall asking for an autograph or interrupting his family’s dinner followed by a lineup of more people who see that you signed the first one.

      Every post you make says more about your lifestyle in ways you aren’t equipped to understand lol


    • YaReally
      on April 24, 2015 at 1:39 pm
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      “insufferable poseur”

      lol that one was quote-worthy.

      I didn’t say ignore everyone and be a recluse to save yourself from the energy vampires.

      If you are trying to succeed in life and you spend all your time hanging out with people who sit in their parents’ basement smoking weed, working at Wal-Mart, causing you drama and asking you to bail them out of shitty situations they create for themselves, you need to cut them loose and upgrade the influences in your life. Anyone who’s successful in any field in life will tell you the same thing.

      That doesn’t mean you have to ignore them or not be friendly, always be social, but keep them at a minimal time investment on your part because they’re taking value from you without giving any back and you deserve better. That schlub hunched over at the bar is probably a nice dude, but if he isn’t making any kind of effort to better himself and he wants to latch onto you with all his problems (that he could fix with a little effort on his part or by making better choices), give him some advice and see if it helps but if he chooses not to handle his shit then it’s not your job to babysit him just like it’s not your job to fuck fat chicks or date single moms and all their baggage. When they work on fixing themselves and try to bring value to the table, even if that value is simply a good positive energy, then they can be a part of your close social circle.

      We live in a culture that tells us we’re all super special snowflakes and we shouldn’t have to make any effort at anything and just should be handed rewards and we celebrate victim complexes and excuses over hard work and self-improvement. But in the real world you either work to succeed or you don’t. And a lot of people don’t learn that because they’re juuuust comfortable enough to not try harder. Then they see people who’ve got their shit handled and think “that’s someone I want to hang around with”…and if they’re going to step up their game to improve themselves to become a peer who can give you value too, then awesome, good on them, welcome to the club of people who give a shit about themselves.

      But when you go out and you meet tons of people every weekend, you’ll find that MANY of them would rather either bring you down or stew in the misery of their own making and those people don’t deserve the time and energy that you could be giving to someone who would do something positive with it. Most of society is too unhappy to enjoy their life but not miserable enough to fix it.

      Be cool with everyone, but be selective about who gets to be in your close social circle of people you spend large amounts of time with. It’s okay to be selfish and it’s okay to keep people as casual acquaintances until they earn your close friendship.

      I didn’t realize I had to spell this exact nuance out, the sperg levels here are high today lol



Ang Aamer
on April 23, 2015 at 10:32 am
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perhaps how this works is by shutting down her mouth… her instinct then is to validate through other methods (via body language, arousal)

This is really a GREAT concept. Another aspect of Game is the possibility of forcing a female to express herself unconsciously and physically and then sit back and let nature take it’s course.

oh and I like YaReally, no homo too.


  • anon
    on April 23, 2015 at 5:10 pm
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    Yes, I have been going through YaReally’s achives lately and that shit is a fucking goldmine. No joke, I think he is up there with Mystery, CH and Rollo. If you see this YaReally, know that I have increased my game because of you. Thank you YaReally, you are the man bro and glad you decided to make the Chateau your home.

    http://yareallyarchive.com/


    • YaReally
      on April 24, 2015 at 5:52 am
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      I legit hope that one day someone goes up to Tyler and is like “dude, I love your YaReally posts” “my what?” “You KNOW….YAREALLY!! CHATEAU!!” “uhhhh..” lol



David
on April 23, 2015 at 11:12 am
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The Chateau is spot on- when is it not…? In regards to teasing women 7 and below- recently ran my “big ear routine” where I mercilessly harass a girl about the size of their- and the target who was about a 7 turned and cried to her girlfriend while I stepped away to make a phone call- that was a big eye opener. Be careful out there the 7s and below- especially if they are over 30- I’m 48- they can’t handle teasing like their younger or hotter counterparts.


  • YaReally
    on April 23, 2015 at 11:29 am
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    To paraphrase what DavidD said waaaaay back in the early days: Don’t tease her about something she can’t help. She can’t change her ears. Tease her about her shirt, ’cause she can wear a different shirt.

    Not that teasing her about her physical features can’t work, it’s just you’re running a higher % of it blowing up in your face and losing the lay (and ruining her day for no reason lol) esp if you stack her being 30+ or naturally insecure on top of it.

    It works when the girl is confident enough to lol about it, like telling a hardbody 9 “Sorry I’m not into fatties” will go over great AND build attraction. But it’s because she’s probably confident enough to lol about it and “fatties” is so exaggerated that she knows you’re not serious.

    Calibration.


  • Ronin
    on April 23, 2015 at 2:07 pm
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    I had the opposite experience, with a few small differences.

    One girl’s friend I told I probably wouldn’t hang out with because she was okay to so-so looking, but the deal-breaker was she had fat wrists.

    Now this was to a girl who was a mid-large size hourglass with a truly impressive rack and a little bit of a smartass attitude.

    Result? Vag-splosion! Immediate, indignant fires of defensive, persistent, desire. She could not keep herself away. I even hear from her occasionally nowadays.

    So: these things Can sometimes work, but Fat Wrists is not as big a neg and this young girl was well-aware she had a body like Kelly Brook.


    • YaReally
      on April 23, 2015 at 2:16 pm
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      @Ronin
      Like I said “It works when the girl is confident enough to lol about it, like telling a hardbody 9 “Sorry I’m not into fatties” will go over great AND build attraction. But it’s because she’s probably confident enough to lol about it and “fatties” is so exaggerated that she knows you’re not serious.”

      It’s just a lower % play to pick something she can’t change because with her shirt she’s very unlikely to have so much invested in that shirt that you saying it’s dumb makes her walk off and you lose the lay because she has a bunch of shirts at home. But with a physical feature there’s like a 50/50 or higher chance of her being legitimately insecure about it so there’s a higher % chance that she’s going to get pissed and walk away.

      It’s fine to risk it but if you lose the lay to it then it’s like well, you picked the riskier gamble so no surprise lol



Sentient
on April 23, 2015 at 2:16 pm
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@YaReally – thanks for answering that post. I don’t think I ever saw it after the lengthy mod hold… LOL

and speaking of mod, man I have like 6 or so locked up for a week now…

Wazzup CH?


  • YaReally
    on April 23, 2015 at 2:18 pm
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    lol I don’t even know which of mine are in mod and which aren’t anymore. There are a bunch that are lost forever I’m sure.

    I have one in mod in this section right now even, but then this one will go through. Who the fuck knows why.


    • YaReally
      on April 24, 2015 at 7:04 am
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      @Reco
      Comment in mod (shocker). lol



Torsten Kokosson
on April 24, 2015 at 12:20 pm
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am I the only one figure YaReally is most likely a huge keyboard jockey? Is there any proof what so ever out there he is actually good at game IRL? Cause i know alot of peeps who seem so good at the internet, cause they have read so much combined with AVERAGE social experience, however they do not have any game what so ever.

Where can one find proof YaReally is actually good, and not some basement dwelling neck beard?


  • YaReally
    on April 24, 2015 at 1:46 pm
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    “Where can one find proof YaReally is actually good, and not some basement dwelling neck beard?”

    Ask your mom.

    Don’t care if you believe me or not. The field reveals all: Guys who go out and apply the shit I say see it play out the way I describe. Guys who don’t go out question and theorize and debate how they think it SHOULD go.

    Any guy who goes out regularly enough and pushes himself in sets enough will come to the same conclusions guys like me have come to. It’s that simple.

    There’s a reason that in 3+ years guys like Greg and Matt will never come out and say “you know, I was chatting up this hot blonde this weekend and I said that thing YaReally said and it happened like bla bla”. Because they aren’t going out and they aren’t applying fuck all in-field. And there’s a reason that guys who try my advice out keep listening to it: because they go out and try it and it aligns with their experience.

    It’s literally the fastest way to tell if someone goes out: do they agree with PUA teaching or not. Even Naturals, if you ask them how they do what they do, will spout off stuff that sounds similar to what I’m saying but isn’t articulated as well because they generally don’t analyze it.

    PUA is not “theory”, it’s reverse engineering processes that are happening around you 24/7 whether you’re aware of them or not.

    But seriously, tell your mom to stop calling.


    • YaReally
      on April 24, 2015 at 2:20 pm
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      EXCELLENT WORK, SOCKPUPPET, THEY’LL NEVER SUSPECT ME NOW.


    • YaReally
      on April 24, 2015 at 3:24 pm
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      ^^^^ This is the second fastest way to tell.


  • yeahokcool
    on April 24, 2015 at 2:11 pm
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    @TK. what does “proof” mean to you? do you know what it actually means, definitionally (i.e., “evidence sufficient to establish a thing as true, or to produce belief in its truth.”). for instance, do you need to see videos of him in action? would that be enough or do you need a signed affidavit from 3-4 different women? the reason that i point this all out is that, in my estimation, YR has provided COPIOUS “proof” of his bonafides. his explanations are detailed and seemingly true to [my] life. for instance, i have tried certain things that he has recommended and they have worked for me. i have also done things in the past that worked (without necessarily knowing why i did them), only to see YR later suggest said actions on this website. those ARE examples of PROOF. however – and i’m speculating, not insulting here – because you may not have the frame of reference to either already know or be willing to try his approaches, you are presently unable to see the proof in the pudding.


    • YaReally
      on April 24, 2015 at 3:29 pm
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      “When you become familiar with the dynamic around here, it becomes a point of pride to be absent from the good opinion of low people with no restrictions on their id and no consequences attached to their behavior.”

      Matt, come on now. You can’t have good friends — much less many friends — if your default mode is to consider people burdens. Listening to a person for a minute isn’t that big of a deal, all things considered, if you aren’t a programmed socio-bot crammed full of formulas and insecurities and rote flirting schemes.

      lol.



The Game Concept Of Devalidation

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YaReally
on April 26, 2015 at 3:14 pm
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lol #FeministsAreUgly is trending on Twitter.

It’s literally EXACTLY what I’m talking about in this article. Look at the hashtag and all you’ll see are Feminists posting pics of themselves or other girls saying “OH YEAH??” etc.

Whoever started the hashtag devalidated them, esp once it caught on, so INSTINCTIVELY they need to validate themselves and correct the “wrong idea” being put forth.

This is like when a girl grabs your arm to turn you back around to tell you “Hey!! I’m not shallow!!” etc.

It’s extra funny because 1) Feminism is all about not needing validation on their looks and then this happens and they all revert to pure emotional instinct and 2) most of them ARE ugly but they’re posting up their best pics as if they’re super sexy which is all sorts of cringe-worthy lol

When someone can have a “wrong idea” about you and you truly give no fucks, it implies your value is high enough that that person’s idea is irrelevant to you.

This is why Agree & Amplify works, because that’s showing “I don’t care if you have a wrong idea about me, you’re not significant” which implies you have hotter girls than her in your life, or if it’s a dude who has a “wrong impression” about you (like this thread where some guys are asking for proof about me) and you simply don’t react (like how I’m not really defending myself with like “oh yeah lemme post vids of me sticking my dick in girls!!!!!”) it shows that that person is too insignificant for you to care what they think. In-field this makes you higher value to girls observing. A lion doesn’t care about hyenas cackling.

In-field if I need to AMOG or just generally demonstrate value in front of a girl, I’ll often have a “wrong idea” about a guy (as I mentioned before it can even be in a complimentary way like “wow man that suit is money, that must have cost a couple thousand hey?” “what? thanks oh uhhh, well no not that much” “oh cool well whatever it looks pimp”), which makes him try to correct me which is him reacting to me (whoever reacts more is lower value) and it’s a subtle little shift but the girl (regardless of her IQ, this is instinct) will be able to pick up on those subcommunications and the guy will blow himself out and have no idea and I don’t get punched lol


  • theasdgamer
    on April 26, 2015 at 6:07 pm
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    and you simply don’t react…it shows that that person is too insignificant for you to care what they think. In-field this makes you higher value to girls observing. A lion doesn’t care about hyenas cackling.

    This should be the case, but I’m not sure it always is the case. My wife is bothered when other people diss me and I don’t respond. Often I consider them too irrelevant to even listen to, so I don’t even hear the disrespect. She listens and is bothered.


    • YaReally
      on April 26, 2015 at 9:43 pm
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      lol sorry should’ve specified “and you simply don’t react negatively/butthurt” not that you don’t say or do anything at all. Sperg is heavy around here this week.



The Paradox Of Women’s Need To Be Desired And Dismissed

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on April 13, 2015 at 10:05 am
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CH,

This is post worthy.

A UK Guy moved to USA, learns pick up, has a harem with kid 7 no marriage —

“‘I started reading about pick-up artists and how you can use psychology to make yourself more attractive.

‘I would practice by standing in Leicester Square at lunchtime and after work, trying to get girls’ phone numbers as they walked past.

‘In no time, I was sleeping with amazing women I could only have dreamed of back at school.’

Adam became so knowledgeable at seducing girls that he started a career as a dating coach – running the popular YouTube channel AFCAdamLondon.

Adam adds: ‘After being a nerdy loner all my life, I was suddenly leading this Hugh Hefner lifestyle.

‘It felt like I could sleep with any beautiful woman that I wanted. At one point, I was dating fourteen girls at the same time – it was crazy!’”

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3036709/Man-TWO-live-girlfriends-share-child-rearing-date-nights-kingsize-bed-wants-woman-in.html

Note the age of his current harem.


  • YaReally
    on April 13, 2015 at 8:38 pm
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    Will read the article later but just want to mention that a lot of AFCAdam’s old stuff is solid regardless of whatever weird arrangement (and marketing of that arrangement ’cause he’s always self-promoting) he’s doing now lol

    His personal claim to fame was that he was a guy who combined pickup with working as a club promoter so he was running huge entourage game where he’d walk into the club with like 15+ girls all dressed the same way to match his outfit etc. and would get his buddies to do the same so they’d walk in with more social proof than most guys have at their own birthday party. Dude is a huge effeminate nerd but he was surrounded by pussy for a handful of years.

    I consider the club promoter part as kind of cheating but just because you have connections doesn’t mean you have to LEAD with “Hey, do you girls want to get into a club for free tonight?” and try to bribe them so the only reason they’re out with you is the free shit, you can still open and run normal game and legit attract them and then just also happen to drop a “say my name at the door, bring your girlfriends” and let them assume you’re just a connected social guy. Most of Adam’s in-field stuff I’ve seen is just him being a cool social guy on the street, he’s not dropping “I’ll get you a free bottle babe, ask for Adam at the door” shit to get numbers like most promoters do.

    He covers some stuff on social circle and networking/entourage subjects that guys who aren’t managing huge groups of girls like that don’t cover so it’s worth looking into his stuff if you’re in college or just landed in a new city and want to start building social circles of hot girls. Take what you can use and discard the rest like Bruce Lee.

    It’s really easy to critique these guys’ personal lives like “look, see even with their TRICKS they ended up LIKE THIS!! It’s because he’s actually a beta under all the pretending alpha-ness so nyah nyah PUA is a scam!” lol ’cause quite frankly a lot of PUAs are going to end up all fucked up in the end as we see how their stories turn out, just like a lot of bodybuilders are going to be all fucked up when their steroid abuse catches up to them, or a lot of guys who suddenly come into shitloads of money will end up overdosing on coke snorted off hookers or end up poor again, or boxers are going to be fucked up from taking hits to the head. Hell, I’m taking my own chances in my own long-term life plan that may or may not pan out.

    But regardless of the paths they take in their personal lives, the information they teach works…just be smarter than they were about the long-term execution of it and build off it. If you’re a bodybuilder ease up on the roids, if you get rich learn how to manage your money, get out of boxing before the brain damage kicks in or stick to safe sparring etc. Pickup is a tool, use it however you want. The original guys are like kids in a candy store ’cause they’re the ones who were like “holy shit we’ve all gained superpowers” like they won the lottery, but the next generation of dudes can learn from their later-life mistakes.

    This is all the more reason why Red Pill and Manosphere guys shouldn’t be ignoring the old PUA teaching like Mystery Method etc. They’re missing a lot of information that they could be using to evolve and enhance their own paths because there’s so much overlap and I keep seeing guys on TRP going “guess what I just discovered!!” all excited and it’s like ya that was already discovered and written about on Page 43 of Mystery Method you could’ve saved yourself some learning curve if you just read the old shit.

    How far you take it or what you do with it is up to you, if you teach me to shoot a gun and then you go on a killing spree that doesn’t mean learning to shoot guns makes you go on killing sprees, I can use that skill for a completely different purpose. Someone knee-deep in pickup can end up alone with a gun in their mouth on a cocaine binge in the bathroom of a nightclub at 45 surrounded by shitty party girls or they can use the same skillset to build a solid social circle of quality successful buddies and quality girls who have their shit together while they work on their health/wealth etc.

    TRP and parts of the Manosphere love to shit on PUAs but RSDTyler has probably the healthiest overall TRP lifestyle of the old guard. Dude keeps in shape exercising daily, makes bank off his own independent business he started from the ground up, doesn’t drink, doesn’t smoke or do drugs, eats crazy healthy downs vitamins and shit daily, travels a ton, teaches other men to better themselves, has 2 cute kids with a baby mama who’s stuck around through the whole thing and he’s still off pulling 3-somes and trying for 3-way makeouts during sober daygame.

    Ya his awkwardness still comes through ’cause he started out as a hardcase and probably has some aspergers but overall he’s setting a pretty solid bar considering all that and considering the disadvantage of his looks lol Like there’s nothing in his lifestyle that a TRP person shouldn’t want to achieve for himself. It’s silly to throw away all that knowledge/experience just because “oh that PUA stuff is just negs and fuzzy hats don’t read that shit, just lift and make money and don’t be a pussy and the bitches will sense how alpha you are bro”.



Comment Of The Week: Attitude Begets Gratitude

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on April 11, 2015 at 4:29 pm
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Another day approach. All comments, criticisms appreciated.

I went to lunch with my younger brother today. While I waited for him on the patio, a waitress came by with my drink. She pointed at two guys in the parking lot and whispered, “I think those guys are homeless.” They cracked open a cheap beer to share and confirmed her suspicion.

“Why are you whispering?”

“Because I don’t want them to hear me,” she whispered.

“They can’t hear you. Stop being retarded.”

“I want them to leave.”

“You should tell them that. Actually, go fight them.”

“How about I fight you,” she said as she gently slapped my arm.

“Oh, so now you’re hitting me?”

She made a fist and said, “That wasn’t hitting. I’ll show you hitting,” with a big smile on her face.

“Don’t do that. I believe in equality; I’ll hit you back.”

She giggled as she walked back to the kitchen. A huge group of kids came in a few minutes later and the whole staff went to help them, and I never saw her again. I should have asked for her number before she walked away. I thought I would have had another chance to talk to her. Still, I think it was a good exchange. I’m definitely getting more comfortable with these interactions, too.


  • YaReally
    on April 11, 2015 at 5:20 pm
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    @Benson
    Missed a beautiful window to turn things sexual:

    “Don’t do that. I believe in equality; I’ll hit you back.”

    While a good reply, if you had said something like “Careful, that’ll get you a spanking.” or “Don’t do that. I believe in equality; I’ll smack you back…on the bum (or “on that ass of yours” if you’ve already got a sexual vibe with her and calibrate that you can go that direct).

    It’s making a similar joke (“if you hit me there’ll be consequences ’cause I’m a big ol’ alpha male”) but by turning it into spanking instead of just hitting it subtly turns things sexual. If I’m ever joke about hitting a girl or punishments for her I always use spanking.

    Subtle nuance, but the concept itself of looking for those windows to turn things sexual is a big part of my game and why I’m able to set sexual frames early on which get the girl thinking of me as “he’s sexy” instead of just “he’s funny”.

    Only pointing it out ’cause the rest of the interaction was solid. Well done, keep it up.


  • walawala
    on April 11, 2015 at 9:00 pm
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    @Benson: my go-to come-back:

    “Behave, don’t make me send you to the naughty corner”.. (Thanks Krauser)

    Turns things sexual, is dominant and reframes the whole thing back to you.


    • YaReally
      on April 12, 2015 at 3:26 pm
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      @Benson
      Hired Gun tips:

      Tell your buddy “I’m gonna go for this waitress’ number. When I kick you under the table, go to the bathroom for like 5 min.”

      So when she’s on her way over your buddy fucks off and you have isolation with her. Flirt it up and drop a standard “you’re (some quality she has), I’m impressed. Most girls are (opposite of that quality, this is so she feels your interest is justified and she earned it for some special snowflake quality she has instead of you just macking every waitress). We should go for a drink sometime. What time are you off?” time-bridge number close, and you’re good.

      And when your buddy comes back and asks if you got her number and you nod yes and he holds out his fist to bro-fist you, tell him to quit that shit till you get outside and no one can see cause it can trigger ASD if she or her co-workers see it.

      Note that the game is exactly the same as with any girl: qualify her, time bridge, isolation, etc. Under her hired gun job she’s still just a normal girl who runs on the same emotions as other girls. Same with bitchy girls, hardcore man jaw feminist girls, strippers, your female boss at work, they’re all girls underneath and work the same way.

      It’s just that a hired gun comes with the extra puzzle of “how do I avoid causing a scene so that she doesn’t feel the social pressure of co-workers and customers watching her hand out her number like a big ol slut and the creepy uncalibrated guy at the table thinks she’ll give him her number too etc”

      Like you CAN number close her in front of your friend or a group esp for a casual hangout or group activity but it’s going to be a less sexual close than if you had isolation and isolation has a waaaaay higher % rate of success overall because it avoids ASD.

      There’s a reason the trope of the waitress writing her number on the bill exists. It avoids causing a scene and she doesn’t even have to come back over and risk you saying “OBOY I WILL DEFINITELY TEXT YOU SO DO YOU WANNA GO OUT FRIDAY???” and causing a scene. She just silently makes her number appear for you and nobody has a clue.

      With hired guns I like to use “What time are you off?” and push for meeting up after she gets off work. It means she’ll be a bit tired and not dolled up (usually they come to work in their waitress uniform if it’s plain looking and if it’s a sexy uniform usually they come to work in sweatpants and an old shirt no fucks given lol) but 1) being tired means getting fucked senseless and passing out curled up to a man after a few orgasms sounds appealing, 2) she’s still probably in a good mood excited to hang out and attracted/flirty VS hanging out a week later when who the fuck knows what mood she’ll be in, 3) customer service jobs blow and going for a drink after a long day of dealing with customer bullshit is appealing and 4) you can have her doll herself up for you next time to make up for whatever ugly shit she’s wearing after her shift.

      Biggest thing is to calibrate and stay cool. If she hesitates and you pick up the vibe that you’ve put her in an awkward situ where she LIKES you but she likes you at WORK and doesn’t want to hang out outside of work (very common in customer service, like a stripper will have customers who she’s super into when they come in to visit but she separates her stripper life from her normal life, or she’s just happy to flirt and have a “safe” customer to hang out with when the creepers get too much to handle but she isn’t actually like “I want to date this guy and risk drama”), just lol and brush it off like it’s all good and keep flirting like normal. You can try again another time and demonstrating that calibration tells her you “get it” and won’t make drama for her so she’s more likely to meet up because you’ve shown you’re cool about it. Nothing is worse than gettig butthurt over a failed number close and then shit is too awkward for you to go there or for her to serve your table anymore.

      If it’s daytime she’s probably off her shift at 5pm, if it’s evening and it’s a restaurant she’s probably off at 2am (which’ll end up being 3am after clean-up). If it’s a popular bar/club with lots of customers she’s probably off at 11pm cause usually a late shift 9pm-2am group of girls comes in.

      If it’s a slow day/night you can txt her thru her shift after you get the number and keep her buying temperature spiked and it’s easier to get a few min of isolation in general to get her number in the first place so number closing her on a boring Monday shift where she’s watching the TVs in the bar half the day and has ample time to txt flirt with you can make her day more exciting VS number closing her on a Friday night shift where she’s running her ass off and can’t txt you and meeting up can feel more like a hassle.

      If she meets up with you after her shift that’s basically a 100% green light to fuck her. Have a drink or two flirt it up and get the fuck outta there back to your place.

      Also industry people all know eachother and are recognizable depending on how popular they are so don’t escalate in public cause they probably recognize the people at the table beside you or know the bartender etc. try taking her for coffee or to some obscure empty bar where she’s not likely to know anyone. Like some old people pub with literally no customers is perfect. She doesn’t care about how nice the venue is all she cares about is getting away with the perfect crime of boning a customer with no one judging her lol

      Good luck.


    • YaReally
      on April 12, 2015 at 3:33 pm
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      @walawala
      “Girls like to be put into a “box” so they can either get out of it or feel that you know them more intimately.”

      Good observation and well stated. Will probably steal this.

      This is why making statements instead of asking questions is powerful. “Where are you from?” isn’t as emotionally engaging as “You’re a SoCal girl aren’t you, I can tell lol” where either you’re right and she gets an emotional spike of “omg what gave me away!! Do I act a certain way?? How did he know??” or you’re wrong and she goes “omg I am NOT!!! Why does he think that??” and has to defend herself, ESPECIALLY if your cold read is a bit of a neg (like you say it with the tone of voice of “oh no not ANOTHER one of these girls ugh”) where she’s REALLY on the defensive and determined to get out of the box you put her in.

      Way more emotional rollercoaster, emotional impact, need to qualify herself to you, investment on her part to win you over, mystery, etc when you put her in boxes. The “so where are you from?” stuff is just boring information/resume exchange zzzzz


    • YaReally
      on April 12, 2015 at 9:32 pm
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      @Benson
      “I wanted to approach but she was with her ugly friend the whole time. She never stepped away from her, and I couldn’t think of a subtle way to engage both of them.

      Any suggestions?”

      Indirect openers. Read Mystery Method, pay attention to Group Theory. This is all covered already lol



The Fishing Theory Of Game

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on April 7, 2015 at 8:57 pm
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Yareally, etc

Here’s a field report from a few days ago that highlights some of the comfort issues we were discussing in the earlier thread. The difference between this and my typical dates is that we skipped the bar and went straight to my place for a drink (sometimes I have them meet me right at my place but that’s a different situation altogether). I got the lay by (like YaReally suggested in the post that came out today) doing some sex talk based rapport to gain the comfort that was missing.. Here it is:

Met her late on a Friday night at 1:30am. I figured this would be a lay up considering the meeting time, but it was actually quite tough and I almost didn’t get the lay.

We got to the bar but there was a cover and a DJ and it was too loud, so I suggested going somewhere else. We stopped by my place to get my cigs but ended up staying, we smoked and I got us a couple of beers. She seemed very nervous and wouldn’t stop talking, and I just played my typical relaxed game.

After I finished my beer I started escalating, but her kissing was very held back and she was hesitant to do anything sexual. She stopped me to ‘talk about what’s going on’, said ‘I don’t have sex with a stranger I just met’ etc etc. I didn’t feel like dealing with her LMR, so I just said it’s cool and whatever she doesn’t feel like doing we don’t have to. She felt more comfortable after that and we started fooling around again, but once I started rubbing her pussy she again stopped me to talk.

She said she should go, I told her to go if she wants to. She said she’d be down to meet again but I said she seems cool and everything but honestly no offense but I’m just into more sexually open women. She took offense that she’s not sexually open, and said she just doesn’t fuck strangers so quickly unless she’s really drunk. I said that’s sad that she has to be drunk to feel comfortable with sex, and that I’m only interested in fucking her sober. I told her I don’t do relationships or monogamy and talked about my experience with group sex and so on. We talked about society slut shaming women and she started to open up more, talking about how she’s a really sexual person and doesn’t want to be inhibited by a man. She wasn’t leaving so I had the feeling that she was secretly hoping we’d find a way to get around her ASD so we could fuck.

It was getting late now, past 3am, and she asked if she could sleep over and borrow a tshirt. At this point I could sense a shift in her mood. I got a tshirt and had her turn around and slowly and sexily I took her dress and bra off, and had her put on the shirt. I could see her horniness growing. I told her I know it’s not fair for her to only be naked, and she readily agreed, so I took my shirt and pants off. She looked at my crotch with DDB eyes and said ‘wow it looks like you have a really nice cock under there’ and started touching it lightly. She said ‘feel free to take it out..’ and I took it out, she said ‘that’s a really beautiful cock’ and started sucking it lightly.

At this point it was a done deal, I let her blow me for a while then fucked her with no LMR. She orgasmed hard during sex and said the sex was amazing. Afterward we debriefed and the floodgates opened, she told me about all the sex she’s had and some one night stands lately (completely contradicting what she had said earlier). We talked about dating and she said the sex should definitely happen on the first date, and if it doesn’t by the third she would dump the guy–again contradicting everything she said an hour before. Women are so strange, they literally don’t even notice when they do this. Whatever ‘feels’ like the truth IS the truth to them.

I think the problem here was that I didn’t build enough comfort early on, I should have taken her to a bar for a drink or two, then back to my place for a third drink to have her fully comfortable and ready for sex.

She left early in the morning.


  • YaReally
    on April 9, 2015 at 1:40 am
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    The responses to this from the usual crybaby crew are fucking hilarious lol

    You built a bunch of Comfort of the “there will not just be no bad consequences to fucking him, but there’ll be good rewards for it” variety with the sex talk. Giving her a bunch of opportunities to leave is another way to build Comfort, because you’re saying like, “you can choose to stay, but if you change your mind that’s cool I have enough sexual abundance to not care and have to rape you or anything, it would be cool if you stay cause I’m into you but I know we’ll bang next time we hang out if we don’t bang tonight so it’s not a big deal to me if you don’t want to hook up tonight”.

    Then add on the qualifier of losing interest in her because she’s not sexual enough and there you go. I use that type of one a lot. I do a lot of talking about how people are judgemental about sex and prudes and I like adventurous girls and adventurous sex etc. so the girl can tell that if she doesn’t step it up and let that sexual side out, she’s going to lose me. So while you (and walawala it sounds) are doing this with HER as the subject, like “I thought YOU were more adventurous” or “I prefer girls who are more sexually open (than YOU)”, I do it in a more roundabout way where I talk about other girls who were prudish and how it was a turn-off to me, and other girls who were really sexual and comfortable with sex and how that was a turn-ON to me, and the girl’s hamster reads between the lines and picks up what I’m saying and figures out that she should qualify herself to me…I find this way is a little more subtle with slightly less chance of coming off confrontational. Just my personal style, but some guys vibe works really well with the way you’re doing it…like I’ve known guys who will take it to the extreme and like if the girl won’t let him escalate he’ll flat out tell the girl “Ok, I’m calling you a cab.” “What? Why??” “I don’t like to waste my time. I thought we had a connection but you clearly don’t want to be here.” and the girl will scramble like crazy to qualify herself. I prefer the laid back hippy-esque “it’s all good” style myself lol

    Meanwhile for one of the judgemental “WIMMIN SHOUDLNT HAVE SEX TAT GIRLS A SLUT ANY GIR L WHO HAS SEX IS A WORTHLESS SLUT WHORE MY GIRLFRIEND IS A UNICORN” chodes, that girl will keep up the “oh I never have sex on the first date” act because the girl knows that’s what they want to hear and is used to being disqualified if she’s honest about sex.

    Then the guy discovers the video of her getting gangbanged in Cuba when she was in college after 10 years of wedded bliss where she reluctantly gives him sad handjobs once a month because she “just isn’t a slut” and his mind is blown lol

    And a good read on her not actively trying to leave meaning she hopes you’ll find a way around her ASD. My fav analogy for it is that her ASD is like a prison guard patrolling the prison halls and you’re the guy sneaking in to break her out of prison. She WANTS to escape with you but she can’t control that ASD guard, and when he walks by if he catches you two she’ll get LMR you have to deal with, but she’s hoping as much as you do that you’ll figure out a way to sneak past that guard and escape to sexual freedom. Like you’re in it together, both up against her ASD because she doesn’t WANT to get ASD. But a lot of guys will act like she’s controlling her ASD and telling the guard to come over and get huffy or give up ’cause they don’t just “get it”.

    Also the sober sex thing was a good move. I actually had a buddy who was convinced it was impossible to have sex with a girl the first time if you were both sober, like it was so outside of his reality. When a girl meets a guy who’s able to escalate sexually AND make it comfortable/fun for her (removing all her fears and nerves about it) while both of you are stone cold sober, she knows “ok this is a guy who’s got a lot of sexual experience”. It’s the chodey inexperienced guys who are feeding girls shots trying to get them drunk enough to bang them…even that sentence, what does that say about the guy’s view of his own value, you know?

    I get the beautiful cock type stuff all the time. It’s nothing special, I’m pretty ugly naked actually but when she’s attracted she’ll choose to see it all as sexy so I purposely walk around naked after we bang because that’s funny to me lol Like the saying goes: Before sex a girl will look for any reason NOT to fuck you, but after sex she’ll look for any reason to justify fucking you.

    You could have avoided some of that bomb diffusing you had to do but you still got the lay so props. But like, you can see how if you had dropped into somewhere for a single beer or coffee, you could’ve built the Comfort you needed and avoided a lot of that “up till 6am diffusing the bomb” hassle. Like if you do that Comfort stuff at the bar, when you get back to your place there’s zero ASD/LMR, no resistance at all, because you’ve flipped all the Comfort switches she needs.

    Like a buddy I’m helping with his game was telling me all his brilliant plans/routines he’s trying to come up with for how to get the girl back to his place and how to get her into his apartment and then what movie they’ll watch and he’ll need beer, vodka, whiskey, some girls like orange juice with their vodka but some might like cranberry juice so better go buy some cran and then this movie has a sexual theme but it’s funny so it’s– and then if there’s a blanket here by an hour into the movie he can say it’s cold in here and get the blanket and–

    And I can’t even relate to that anymore. I used to do that same stuff when I didn’t know how to build that Comfort ahead of time through sexual Rapport so I can’t make fun of him for it (right now his main prob is he’s not very comfortable with sex/sexuality, he’s a minority dude who grew up in a super strict anti-sex household so he has a lot of baggage to work through with feeling ashamed about sex). But now that I do my Comfort ahead of time, my dates tend to look like we meet up for one beer, I built Comfort and then she’s ready to go back to my place, no excuses or anything needed really, neither of us really mentions it we just go “want to get out of here?” “sure”. There have been a few times where I go to order another round of drinks because I’m like it couldn’t happen THIS fast, and the girl is the one to say “ehh I’m good” and I cancel the drinks and we leave, because she was signalling “hey look I’m ready to fuck, let’s not waste all night here”. Then when we get outside I do a quick “now that we’re finally alone…” kiss and put out my arm for her to walk arm in arm with me and walk toward my place (I say “that’s my place right there” if she asks where we’re going…dem logistics lol), no excuses necessary we both know what’s going on. In my building I’ll makeout hardcore and escalate as soon as we have total isolation. Like she’s pinned against the back of my door with our jackets, shoes, etc. on, still holding her purse, and I have my hand running up her thigh and mouth on her neck and we leave a trail of clothes from there to my bed.

    So I literally don’t even HAVE anything in my apartment for killing time with. I rarely keep much alcohol stocked because I only drink when I’m out, and I’m still poor so I don’t want to waste the little alcohol I have on a girl. I don’t have a TV, DVD/BluRay player, I just have some music going. There’s no interesting books scattered about my apartment or fascinating items in some glass display case for me to tell my story about hunting wild boars in the Himalayas lol Because I don’t need any of that stuff. We aren’t “hanging out” in my apartment for an hour before we fuck. It’s in the door and right to the bed…but that happens BECAUSE I build Comfort through sexual Rapport (and generally tight game) ahead of time.

    But if I pull her to my place too fast, I’d get the same situ as you did where “ok, pulled too fast, gotta diffuse this bomb now”. This is another reason good logistics help, because it’s extremely convenient for me to meet up for a beer/coffee before my place since it’s nearby. If I had to like hop a bus for 40 min or drive somewhere it would be a pain. But as it is, if I ran into the same situ as you and the night was young I could even go as far as to take her back out in public to grab food or a mix or something, like to make her feel safe again (plus building more “you’ll be fine, I’m calibrated and non-needy” Comfort with the venue changes and backing off etc.) and then when we come back it’s guaranteed to be on because I just built massive Comfort. But that would be for some emergency case where it was too much for me to handle just through chatting and taking it slow like you did, which is preferable since it doesn’t cost money or involve leaving the mood-setting apartment and risking state-breakers (bright lights, strangers fucking up the vibe, her checking her phone as I’m paying for drink mix etc.)

    Good report. Whatever romance novel you stole it from and changed a few words in before having me post it under my kant sockpuppet account, good choice!

    Sentient
    “The only TRUTH to a women is emotion (at the moment). It makes sense though, this is the arc between solipsism and hypergamy, and powers their sexual strategies.”

    Yup. It’s not a lie to them, what they feel is REAL in their mind even if it’s totally inconsistent with what was REAL to them a few minutes ago lol Understanding that is a big part of swallowing the red pill.

    Also thx for re-posting my post kant, that was one I was legit sad was lost to the mod black hole ’cause it explains something that very rarely gets explained. Also namedropping Reco in here incase he does a vanity search cause the bartender example in that Comfort thing was describing his situation with the blonde bartender chick so he should give that a read for those situations since older guys tend to have to focus more on verbals and eye contact and sub-comms over wacky flashy kino spin-hugs and shit that the younger guys can get away with.


    • YaReally
      on April 9, 2015 at 7:08 am
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      King

      Lol we both write walls of text. The difference is mine are useful.

      Wala

      Ya that counts. It’s basically implying that sex is normal to him and not a big deal. Guys with that attitude are usually guys who get laid and guys who get laid are guys who get Comfort. But if you proactively lay that frame earlier you won’t have to diffuse that shit-test bomb. Like if she feels she properly impressed you (qualifying her) and earned and invested in your attention then you seem less playerish to her (often “player” just means “I don’t feel like I’ve done anything to deserve your interest so you must do this to any girl”), and if you add on casual stories about sexual adventures and not being ashamed of sex etc then you’re diffusing that bomb before she can set it and you don’t have to deal with that coin-flip of a staredown situ.

      This is why an overall unapologetically sexual vibe is important to work on developing. Because that vibe alone IMPLIES a lot of stuff about you. A guy who’s banged a bunch of hotties and is regularly around sex and sexual girls goes to a stripclub and notices the dancers but is more engaged in his conversation with his buddy. A Matt King type virgin who has weird hangups about sex is wide-eyed staring at the first tits he’s seen since his mama and is paranoid and embarrassed that he gets a boner.

      If you’re a girl deciding which of those two is going to be fun to go home with, even tho you haven’t spoken to either of them yet you can spot a mile away which one is going to provide more Comfort. The guy will still have work to do but he’s given an edge over the competition.



Every Situation Is An Opportunity For Pickup

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splooge
on April 2, 2015 at 8:43 pm
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isnt the sidewalk one too direct? well unless youre goid lookin it should work

[CH: or ballsy]


  • BuenaVista
    on April 3, 2015 at 4:32 am
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    I think one of our issues is we are still conditioned to think that a sidewalk ‘hello’ is some woefully aggressive move by a man. Now, it depends on the city, but seriously, walk down a street in NYC, and what you’ll find are the most sexually aggressive women on the planet. The eye contact is off the charts. And these are the women that a single woman in Omaha aspires to be. These are the women whose idea of seduction is to show up at your door nude, carrying a bottle of rye and a tube of KY.

    Do the girls and yourself a favor. Say hello. They know before the syllable emerges from your mouth if they’re potentially interested. Pretty quickly it will become second nature to you to adjudge whether or not a woman *is* potentially interested. Because there will always be another one, you won’t give a shit about the ones who take a pass.


    • YaReally
      on April 3, 2015 at 11:47 am
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      “But weight is one of the areas you really have control over. I am in my fifties and I have no control over my age but I can control how I dress, look, act and how good of shape I am in.”

      This is the main thing. Control what you can and let go of what you can’t.

      https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/06/06/work-on-your-personality/#comment-574707

      Taking care of yourself shows that you give a shit about yourself…no one expects the college bro to take care of his body, it’s fine if he’s got a beer gut and stuff he was probably out boozin it up at the rippers with his buddies last night. But when you’re older it’s like ehhh, you should probably be trying not to have a stroke and diabetes and shit.

      And ya you can still be sloppy when you’re older and pull hotties, but like, you’d better have either fucking TIGHT game or some other sort of massive value to pull that off. Like retardededly tight game. If your game isn’t off the charts and you’re 50 trying to bang 25yos then trim those nose hairs and do some pushups and eat a chicken breast instead of a big mac lol



Anonymous
on April 3, 2015 at 8:42 am
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Reco,

kindly go fuck yourself, lying sack of shit.

oink


  • YaReally
    on April 3, 2015 at 11:49 am
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    Stop it, you guys are making me hard. 8====D


    • YaReally
      on April 3, 2015 at 11:50 am
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      of course THAT goes through mod no problem. lol



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Reco
on April 2, 2015 at 12:53 pm
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Hello YaReally, HADB, Walawala…so been a while since my last encounter. If you remember this story http://yareallyarchive.com/2015/2/, back on Feb. 17 you had some good advice. Which I planned to implement.

Well things did not go so well. I came back the following week but on a different day of the week on Wednesday, and the bartender was not there. However her bartender friend who was almost as cute. Came over and excitedly greeted me and we chatted a little and she said “you were not here on Monday, that is the day “we” thought you would come in. Interesting comment so I told her I am usually in this city on Wednesdays. So another week goes by and I come in again on Wednesday and sure enough she is there looking great. It was busy and about the time I sit down this 65 YO dude sits right next to me and starts talking.

So my girl comes over to greet me and when she says hello the dude next to me shouts out hello. Not in an intentional cock blocking kind of a way but in a needy please talk to me way that results in the cockblock anyway. It was almost comical if it was not happening to me. How it was like someone sent this dude to sit down next to me and never stop talking and constantly harassing all the bartenders, just desperate for attention. Of course I could not get a word in edgewise. I looked for another seat there were none. Matter of fact at one point my girl even made a little joke to me and said with a snide smile looks like you have made a new friend. It was not good. So no opportunity to talk or escalate so I left after a couple of hours. It was frustrating as hell. Also during that night she mentioned she had “a somewhat boyfriend” to the PITA dude next to me but obviously where I could hear it. I know hot chicks always have someone. So this did not necessarily bother me.

Now I had two weeks of travel and could not get back there. But last night I finally made it. Logistics were good weather was good. I know some of the people who work there the gay bartender came over and talked for a while. But the girl I am after was there and was friendly but would not talk. And I could not just chase her around the bar. We chatted quickly a couple of times but could not get her to show the interest of before. Then there were three specific instances where she was talking to other dudes at other locations. I am taking this as a rejection. What do you think? It was a big disappointment. Not sure I did anything wrong other than let too much time go by. So my question is should I just forget about this chick? Has it been too long? I know women are creatures of what is happening in the moment to them. Is this the case? Am I looking like a goofball going there several times in a row and now it is just stale. I have been kicking myself every since last night.

I am still approaching cold in other locations and venues and it is hard. Very hard but I am making small progress. I am in a bit of a dryspell at the moment so maybe that is affecting my vibe?


  • YaReally
    on April 2, 2015 at 8:06 pm
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    @Reco
    “So no opportunity to talk or escalate so I left after a couple of hours.”

    If you left and he was still there, he sabotaged you after you left. Judging by his lack of social calibration it was likely in the loud “wow that guy really has a crush on you hey! Is that guy your boyfriend??” way where everyone can hear him and she gets embarrassed etc.

    Classic move, everyone gets burned by it here and there. Hell I use it myself all the time lol

    Only way to really prevent that one is to outlast the guy, that’s why these are the most annoying dudes, because the guy usually has nothing else going on in his life and can hang out there right till 2am…he’s not gonna GET the girl and they’re going to think he’s a complete loser, but he doesn’t care and he can make sure YOU can’t get her.

    I’m guessing this is what happened because it sounds like she was still into you when he was sitting there and nothing you wrote is any kind of red flag to me. Like even her calling him your new friend etc as a bartender she knows he’s not your friend she’s making fun of him and letting you know that she feels bad for you, like that’s all “still into you”. So nothing in your report would cause her to 180 like that…which, to me, indicates that something happened after you left, and if this guy was talking about subjects that made her mention having a boyfriend then he sounds just socially retarded enough and annoying enough to have sat there and fucked your shit up after you left.

    I don’t think it’s related to how long it took you to make a move at all, like in terms of grabbing her number and hanging out. Everything you described sounded like you had attraction that night. It would be unsual for her to suddenly slot you as an Orbiter and 180 like that when you two barely even got to talk that night…maybe if you were sitting there alone for 4 hours and she hinted to ask for her number and you missed the window then sure, but nothing you described sets off flags to me.

    But on the subject of time-frames, bailing right away would have been a decent move in that hopefully you don’t end up on the guy’s radar as a conversation topic for after you leave (like if you sit beside him for a couple hours then leave after he’s seen her comment to you etc., you’re the first thing he’s gonna talk to her about…if you were on your way out as he sat down he wouldn’t be likely to register you as a conversation piece he would just focus on his own shitty attempts to woo her lol).

    Either way, once you end up on that guy’s radar, you’re in a tough spot. You can “girl-code” with her like she did with you where you make eye contact and tool the guy without being blatant about it…like raise your eye-brows “gonna be a long night tonight” where she knows you’re making fun of the guy but he doesn’t pick up on it.

    The best move would probably have been a combo of some girl-code plus leaving quickly. Like as soon as you realize he’s one of “those” guys and he does something super uncalibrated like hitting on her or where she comes over to say “looks like you’ve made a friend”, you lock eyes and girl-code with “ya, lucky me, but suddenly I’m not so thirsty I think I’ll pass the pain and suffering on to YOU tonight lol, how much do I owe you?”

    That’s something where you have a “secret connection” about what a tool the guy is and it’s a bit of a tease/jerk thing to be like “well good luck with this shit I’m out lol” and you’re out of there hopefully before he realizes he should try to fuck your shit up, etc.

    But ya, tough situ all around. Fuckin hate those guys, I’ve been stuck with them myself.

    Far as recovery goes it’s hard to say. Drop in again in a month and see what happens, but without knowing what happened exactly it’s hard to say how to recover.

    Props for going in there with the intent to try though. All that stuff about them talking about what day you come in etc. was good. It sounds like you had legit attraction.

    Keep at it, the game is full of highs and lows. The highs make the lows worth it lol


    • YaReally
      on April 2, 2015 at 8:09 pm
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      Also far as motivation and giving up goes: You had a fun little adventure flirting it up with a hot bartender chick who talks about you with her other bartender chick friend about what day they’ll get to see you, and from all indications if this guy hadn’t been there you probably could’ve pulled and banged her…what are your peers your age up to? Being fat and hoping their fat wife puts out a sad duty-handjob this month? ;)


    • YaReally
      on April 3, 2015 at 11:33 am
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      @Reco
      Happy to help, ’cause you put in the work. Plus you succeeding helps me reinforce to myself that I’ll be just fine when I’m your age, ’cause if you’re getting attraction etc. from these kinds of chicks then I won’t have a prob.

      @habd
      “heres a game plan…in about a month, go back to the bar when your girl isn’t working…chat with the gay bartender. bring up the guy who burned you in a concerned way. ask about if he has any friends, does he come in here a lot, etc. let it slip that you tried to get to know him (and you kept it up for a couple of hours bc you always like to meet new people and haven’t ever really failed to get to know anybody once you get into their business deep enough) but that you just couldn’t get through that guy’s shell and it was painful…lol…then change the subject, talk some more then leave. just work it in, so it isn’t the main reason you came in, although it really is…lol…”

      nooooooooooooooooooooooooo

      Don’t do this. That guy doesn’t exist to you. Never mention him ever again lol Don’t give him any value by remembering he even exists. If she was like “ya your buddy told me–” and you go “huh? what buddy?” “your friend you were here with that one time”, you go “lol what? oh that drunk guy? lol no I don’t know who the fuck that was. Old creepy guys just sit down and chat me up. It weirded me out but I’m a polite guy so I didn’t want to tell him to go away. I think he had a crush on you lol” and anything in her head that was negative about you thru him is destroyed…

      …but the key is she has to bring it up. If you bring it up it looks like you’re defending yourself.

      But like I say, she may not even think he’s your friend or anything, she knows dudes like that just bother other people cuz they have nothing to do, a bartender sees those types every night and usually they’re the ones that have to deal with it, she knows that’s not your buddy.

      But he could’ve done stuff like “man that guy really has a crush on you lol he kept checkin out your ass, he told me he wanted to stick his tongue in it lol” or “man that guy told me he was married and his wife is cheatin on him so he’s in here trying to find some college pussy to get back at her lol” like just fuckin’ anything, you’ll never know. Those guys are usually total wildcards and don’t care about social ineptness or making things awkward for people or people thinking they’re losers.

      lol at the handjob stuff. Focus on the bright sides. It’s really easy to forget how far you’ve come on a bad night in the game. All you dwell on is the bad part and forget that like, ya you got shot down by a 9 but a couple years ago you couldn’t even TALK to a 9. And like you say it’s a good indicator that your standards and expectations for yourself are rising…you feel ENTITLED to a girl like that, you were gonna walk in there fully expecting to fuck this hot bartender chick. That’s pretty badass compared to your buddies going home to their sad reluctant handjobs lol


  • Sentient
    on April 3, 2015 at 7:12 am
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    Still one in mod…. Short version – to ramp up success quickly, focus on the 1 sets in your hotel bar. Very, very high success rate. Great logistics.


    • YaReally
      on April 4, 2015 at 1:43 pm
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      reply in Mod as well, obviously lol



EssenBetenFicken

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on April 1, 2015 at 7:46 pm
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Responding to Sentient from a few articles back, but other guys’ll probably find this useful so I’m throwing it here:

Sentient
“Yup. This exactly… stumbled back to Mystery over the last couple of months precisely because of this and found a bunch of gaps that were filled in through greater understanding.”

Ya, I think a lot of the people who are like “that PUA stuff is just a numbers game, I tried it and it was a numbers game, of course you get laid more because you’re approaching more duh” are generally the people who’ve learned (or seen other people who’ve learned) some abbreviated form of the original (like RSD is good but they simplify/dumb down a lot of concepts so newbies can see success faster, Manosphere, TRP, lots of pickup companies promoting “natural game” or groups like Simple Pickup etc. are all promoting dumbed down versions too)…so they’re not incorrect, what they’re seeing IS a lot more of a numbers game. Then the guys just shout “NEXT!!!” to any chick who doesn’t get with the plan so they keep doing the thing they’re doing that only really has like a 50% consistency rate because it’s some retarded taboo to say “maybe if I’m getting flaked on or girls aren’t responding consistently to this thing I’m doing, I should take the ego hit and admit I might be approaching this wrong and look for where I can tweak it for better results”.

Am I some fuckin’ rainman magic PUA wizard over here, pin-point nailing people’s sticking points online from a few paragraphs they type in a field report? No, I’ve just studied the original PUA shit in-depth and I’m seeing angles that other people didn’t learn in their abbreviated version of pickup they studied so I can go “your problem is XYZ, it’s on Page 23 of this book or explained in this RSD video” and they’re like “woah, I never even thought about it that way before”.

“If a guy was starting out from scratch, what are the exact sources you would point him to today, in order?”

If a guy wanted to REALLY nerd out hardcore and get an extremely thorough understanding of this shit, like the type of understanding that’s going to take a couple years to digest and process and master, this is all the important shit:

1) Mystery Method, the original book (google the PDF) and all the seminar DVDs on YouTube where Mystery explains it all so they have a thorough understanding of the concepts. This is basically the all-encompasing big daddy.

2) Liam Mcrae – Rapid Escalation (entire video) on YouTube – This’ll teach a guy about laser eye-contact and creating sexual tension

3) Specifically 27:00 to 50:00 in Richard La Ruina – Formula for Night Game on YouTube – This backs up what Liam’s talking about

4) Juggler Method – This is for learning to build solid rapport with people

5) Julien’s PIMP product. Fortunately the most important parts of it are on YouTube. Specifically watch these vids, these concepts are advanced shit. The other stuff in PIMP is about closing numbers and plowing etc. but you can find him talking about that stuff in his free vids on YouTube if you don’t want to spend the money.

Try to ignore his weirdly coked out intense speaking style lol just listen to what he’s saying:

Newbies and vets should watch this one, it’s a good outline of general verbal structure and how to make “interview mode” questions powerful instead of boring which is useful for when you can’t think of witty shit to say:

Everything you could ever want to know about determining logistics:

This one is for advanced guys. Making girls chase you. Devalidation stacking is like a supercharged version of Mystery’s negs/disqualifying. The investment/chasing it causes esp in hotter girls is RETARDED, this shit amped up my buddy and I’s game after we both plateaued for a while:

6) Tyler’s Blueprint series. Long as FUCK (literally like 20 hours or something insane), and less specifically pickup focused but it explains basically EVERYTHING about society and social conditioning and human psychology and groupthink and mental barriers and shit. I still watch this once a year and learn new shit from it as different parts become relevant to my life/progress. Tyler has said repeatedly that he doesn’t care if you pirate this shit lol It’s heavy shit tho, it’ll fuck with your head for a couple weeks while you digest it all more than it’ll like make you get laid easier. This is to self-diagnose a lot of internal bad wiring that society has programmed in you and everyone else, like this is a lot of good internal shit.

7) Misc RSD vids, they have lots of good shit, pick a topic that interests you lol

___

Now if a guy JUST wants to get laid, like what’s the fastest way to get some socially akward nerd’s dick wet, I would say just watch the Liam/Laruina vids above, the first and second Julien vids above, and this:

And that covers all the basics from meet to lay good enough to go out and apply it without much overthinking floating around in your head.



YaReally
on April 1, 2015 at 9:26 pm
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lol’ed hard at this. This one’s for the naysayers who said the Julien shit was the end of RSD lol This is how you spin bad publicity into marketing…this is exactly what I predicted he would do. “Learn the forbidden techniques banned across the world” Like how much better hype can you get than having Russell Brand and CNN warning guys NOT to look at your new product you’re launching?:

Also he’s using the controversy as a routine to get laid now:

Telling girls to Google his name, then he frame controls it with “ya it’s all the media lying, you know how the media is, I actually just teach guys to be confident bla bla” and now as far as she’s concerned she’s fucking some minor celeb badboy (he explains the details of the routine in one of his latest vids).

When is RSD going out of business again, RVF? How many billions of dollars are they losing by not engaging the media for the 10 days people gave a fuck before they moved onto the next news story like Tyler predicted?

Like I said, of ALL people, Red Pill types should be the ones using their critical fuckin thinking skills instead of running around on the “lolol the guys I hate based off a biased Roosh post are suffering they’re doomed this is the end hahaha” bandwagon like chickens with their heads cut off lol

[CH: that is an excellent reframe by julien.]