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immoralgables
on June 27, 2014 at 11:30 am
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My Fellow Americans,

Running into some obstacles in regards to my Day 2s.

My initial assessment is that the pendulum is swinging too hard to the right and I’m giving off too much of a playerish vibe and escalating quickly.

One positive thing is I’m hitting my groove on these dates: I’m not nervous, I steer the convo, I’m planning them out a lot better, I’m at ease escalating. I am giving off that vibe of the sexy guy and not the provider guy.

Damn, one girl this week told me she could tell I would be good at sex when I # closed her on the street. Big game changer for me as I was finger-banging her at the park that night. So the girls are very intrigued by me and how I present myself esp since I am being nonjudgmental and am literally getting them to open up with me about their sexual fantasies and links when we get to the 2nd venue.

Yet, I’m having trouble getting the lay. It could be logistics/7 hours rule (most dates start at 9 and end around 1) since I have to get sleep but I’m also worried that I’m missing the essential framework to want them to sleep with me.

I want the sex to be a win/win but I think there is some distrust into giving it up. Hard to explain. I like the idea of coming off as the anti-bf/provider and the girls’ seem to buy into what I’m offering….but still haven’t gotten the lay. If this could happen on the Day 3 after some more comfort then fine. I’m trying to escalate and lead things to their/my apt but it’s like a structural issue. Some lines I’ve heard this week:

1. There is no way we’re having sex tonight (as we’re essentially dry-humping in front of her apt and I have her lifted against her building wall)

2. I can’t go home with you. I bet you do this with every girl. You’re a good looking guy you can probably get any girl.

3. I really want to but it’s not happening tonight. So yes, I try to flip the script and say “Yeah right, who said I would even have sex with you.” But the lines/tactics don’t work when there is a structural problem.

4. We just met on the street, I’m not like that. (As I’m pulling her hair and placing her hand on my cock and we keep making out)

I’m not beating myself up over this as it’s an improvement from my dates that used to end in the awkward kiss at the end but it’s a bit frustrating. I’m not being a crass jerk with these girls either, just letting them know that I’m not the provider type through my words, actions, stories. I’m also doing a good job of getting to know them, eliciting their values and knowing when to back off….it’s just done with a lot of kino lol.

Also it could be because of the whole daygame thing since in their mind I’m still the guy they just met on the street.

Please let me know, would love to hear any and all feedback.


  • Steve H
    on June 27, 2014 at 11:45 am
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    1. There is no way we’re having sex tonight (as we’re essentially dry-humping in front of her apt and I have her lifted against her building wall)

    There is no one failproof line you can use here. You have to convey through your vibe and abundance mentality that tonight is her chance, and probably her only chance. Your nonverbals should communicate ‘you’re blowing your chance with that bullshit talk, honey’.

    2. I can’t go home with you. I bet you do this with every girl. You’re a good looking guy you can probably get any girl.

    “I understand”. Then just keep escalating and remain internally unattached to the end result of fucking her. She will feel that – while you’d prefer to nail her, you can take it or leave it – and you don’t care enough to creepily push past her sincere resistance. It’s therefore on her as to whether or not she gets to enjoy fucking you that night vs. depriving herself of great sex.

    3. I really want to but it’s not happening tonight. So yes, I try to flip the script and say “Yeah right, who said I would even have sex with you.” But the lines/tactics don’t work when there is a structural problem.

    “Yeah, that can’t happen yet. Too soon.” Then keep escalating physically and non-verbally.

    4. We just met on the street, I’m not like that. (As I’m pulling her hair and placing her hand on my cock and we keep making out)

    “I know”. Continue escalation.


    • YaReally
      on June 27, 2014 at 3:46 pm
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      “no guy should have to spend 10, 20 or 30 minutes trying to get a girl off orally or manually unless that’s something he enjoys”

      lol thank-you for making my job easier. :)



Game Is Social Savviness

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immoralgables
on June 27, 2014 at 11:30 am
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My Fellow Americans,

Running into some obstacles in regards to my Day 2s.

My initial assessment is that the pendulum is swinging too hard to the right and I’m giving off too much of a playerish vibe and escalating quickly.

One positive thing is I’m hitting my groove on these dates: I’m not nervous, I steer the convo, I’m planning them out a lot better, I’m at ease escalating. I am giving off that vibe of the sexy guy and not the provider guy.

Damn, one girl this week told me she could tell I would be good at sex when I # closed her on the street. Big game changer for me as I was finger-banging her at the park that night. So the girls are very intrigued by me and how I present myself esp since I am being nonjudgmental and am literally getting them to open up with me about their sexual fantasies and links when we get to the 2nd venue.

Yet, I’m having trouble getting the lay. It could be logistics/7 hours rule (most dates start at 9 and end around 1) since I have to get sleep but I’m also worried that I’m missing the essential framework to want them to sleep with me.

I want the sex to be a win/win but I think there is some distrust into giving it up. Hard to explain. I like the idea of coming off as the anti-bf/provider and the girls’ seem to buy into what I’m offering….but still haven’t gotten the lay. If this could happen on the Day 3 after some more comfort then fine. I’m trying to escalate and lead things to their/my apt but it’s like a structural issue. Some lines I’ve heard this week:

1. There is no way we’re having sex tonight (as we’re essentially dry-humping in front of her apt and I have her lifted against her building wall)

2. I can’t go home with you. I bet you do this with every girl. You’re a good looking guy you can probably get any girl.

3. I really want to but it’s not happening tonight. So yes, I try to flip the script and say “Yeah right, who said I would even have sex with you.” But the lines/tactics don’t work when there is a structural problem.

4. We just met on the street, I’m not like that. (As I’m pulling her hair and placing her hand on my cock and we keep making out)

I’m not beating myself up over this as it’s an improvement from my dates that used to end in the awkward kiss at the end but it’s a bit frustrating. I’m not being a crass jerk with these girls either, just letting them know that I’m not the provider type through my words, actions, stories. I’m also doing a good job of getting to know them, eliciting their values and knowing when to back off….it’s just done with a lot of kino lol.

Also it could be because of the whole daygame thing since in their mind I’m still the guy they just met on the street.

Please let me know, would love to hear any and all feedback.


  • Steve H
    on June 27, 2014 at 11:45 am
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    1. There is no way we’re having sex tonight (as we’re essentially dry-humping in front of her apt and I have her lifted against her building wall)

    There is no one failproof line you can use here. You have to convey through your vibe and abundance mentality that tonight is her chance, and probably her only chance. Your nonverbals should communicate ‘you’re blowing your chance with that bullshit talk, honey’.

    2. I can’t go home with you. I bet you do this with every girl. You’re a good looking guy you can probably get any girl.

    “I understand”. Then just keep escalating and remain internally unattached to the end result of fucking her. She will feel that – while you’d prefer to nail her, you can take it or leave it – and you don’t care enough to creepily push past her sincere resistance. It’s therefore on her as to whether or not she gets to enjoy fucking you that night vs. depriving herself of great sex.

    3. I really want to but it’s not happening tonight. So yes, I try to flip the script and say “Yeah right, who said I would even have sex with you.” But the lines/tactics don’t work when there is a structural problem.

    “Yeah, that can’t happen yet. Too soon.” Then keep escalating physically and non-verbally.

    4. We just met on the street, I’m not like that. (As I’m pulling her hair and placing her hand on my cock and we keep making out)

    “I know”. Continue escalation.


    • YaReally
      on June 27, 2014 at 3:46 pm
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      “no guy should have to spend 10, 20 or 30 minutes trying to get a girl off orally or manually unless that’s something he enjoys”

      lol thank-you for making my job easier. :)



Game Is Social Savviness

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Reco
on June 30, 2014 at 6:58 am
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How would you handle this. Just got this text from my 30YO this morning. We are seeing each other about once a week and have been having a lot of tun, we are supposed to meet tonight. Have not seen each other in about a week. I have my doubts if this text is truthful.

Me: Mornin 8:11 AM
Her: Morning…. Regret to inform u I have to cancel tonight sweetie. My mom is going to Chicago. So i have to be home after work. I was just told so I do apologize 8:40 AM

She does not offer to reschedule. However she does apologize send it ahead of time.

I have not responded. Yet. How would you guys respond. I am thinking that I will respond with “lol no problem…I will make other plans”

@yareally, and HABD and Steve H what do you guys think?


  • YaReally
    on July 2, 2014 at 12:01 pm
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    @Reco
    No prob. She apologized for the short notice acknowledging that she knows she’s broken your rule/expectations so she knows those rules/expectations are there.

    Just send her something like “lol no problem…but you’ll have to make it up to me next time with that red dress you know I love ;)” Like, give her a way to make up for breaking your rule, no annoyance/butthurtness/training necessary here.

    No biggie lol



Game Is Social Savviness

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Reco
on June 30, 2014 at 6:58 am
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How would you handle this. Just got this text from my 30YO this morning. We are seeing each other about once a week and have been having a lot of tun, we are supposed to meet tonight. Have not seen each other in about a week. I have my doubts if this text is truthful.

Me: Mornin 8:11 AM
Her: Morning…. Regret to inform u I have to cancel tonight sweetie. My mom is going to Chicago. So i have to be home after work. I was just told so I do apologize 8:40 AM

She does not offer to reschedule. However she does apologize send it ahead of time.

I have not responded. Yet. How would you guys respond. I am thinking that I will respond with “lol no problem…I will make other plans”

@yareally, and HABD and Steve H what do you guys think?


  • YaReally
    on July 2, 2014 at 12:01 pm
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    @Reco
    No prob. She apologized for the short notice acknowledging that she knows she’s broken your rule/expectations so she knows those rules/expectations are there.

    Just send her something like “lol no problem…but you’ll have to make it up to me next time with that red dress you know I love ;)” Like, give her a way to make up for breaking your rule, no annoyance/butthurtness/training necessary here.

    No biggie lol



Game Is Social Savviness

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YaReally
on June 30, 2014 at 5:47 pm
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Infield inspiration for Approach Week. Watch a chode’s mind get obliterated in the first video as he tries to wrap his head around what he’s seeing Julien do and tries to make it jive with his negative shitty belief system lol:

Have fun all, go push out of your comfort zones.


  • walawala
    on June 30, 2014 at 8:33 pm
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    @YaReally great first video. This is my own game journey. This whole “Holy shit…you mean girls really go for this??” 4:23 the guy who starts laughing like a hyena…”Modern men have forgotten how to act around women”. “The excuse is you’re a man and she’s a girl…you don’t need an excuse (to approach)”.


    • YaReally
      on July 2, 2014 at 12:12 pm
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      “4:23 the guy who starts laughing like a hyena…”

      People who slag on the PUA community and who go off on “yo just be a man brah, that’s what I do, lift some weights and you’ll get pussy, I don’t even get how you guys have to try so hard with all your lingo and approaching and shit, I just put on my Wranglers and mosey into the local bar where I’m a minor celebrity and raise my eyebrow at the hottest poon there and she sucks my dick brah” rants often don’t realize that THIS is the guy we’re trying to help.

      We’re not just helping some generally alpha dude who’s just forgotten a few things or needs to step up a bit, we’re heping the guys who are (no offense to that kid ’cause I’m sure he’s a nice dude lol) kind of socially retarded. Like everyone watching that kid burst out in weird laughter KNOWS that the thing he just did is a weird socially awkward thing. We can all feel it, I’m sure the coach feels that “oh god, please, stop” cringe inside a thousand times a night when he’s teaching a bootcamp.

      And that guy isn’t even that hard a case, he was at least chatty and decent looking. We get WAY harder cases than him, half the audience is filled with guys who make that laughing kid look like the coolest fucker on Earth.

      Feminists, anti-gamers, anti-PUAs, “just man up bra I’ve been gettin’ laid since I was 16″ guys, etc. don’t have any solutions for that kid. They can’t take that kid and tell him “do this this and this” and legitimately get him results. They write him off as a non-entity and just kind of brush him under the rug and hope he goes away so they don’t have to think about him.

      No one wants to help him because they don’t know how.

      But PUAs do. We can take this kid and give him our logical steps and exercises to follow and encourage him to put in the effort on his end with some guidance from us and the community, to help shake out or tone down some of his awkwardness and help bring out the parts of him that are attractive (or build them from the ground up) and present them as best he can to women to get him sex or a girlfriend.

      If that kid ever reads this, I’m not trying to pick on you, we’ve all had moments of weirdness, esp in high-nervousness situations like that (he’s meeting a personal idol of his), but it’s a good example of a guy who’s generally a normal looking average dude but is a little uncalibrated/awkward and finds a lot of value in what the PUA community teaches beyond a lot of the Manosphere “just lift weights and be aloof brah” vague advice (the Chateau being an exception to that vagueness of course, which is why I post here and enjoy reading the in-depth breakdowns of game concepts here lol)



Game Is Social Savviness

Original Link

via Heartiste

YaReally
on June 30, 2014 at 5:47 pm
Original Link

Infield inspiration for Approach Week. Watch a chode’s mind get obliterated in the first video as he tries to wrap his head around what he’s seeing Julien do and tries to make it jive with his negative shitty belief system lol:

Have fun all, go push out of your comfort zones.


  • walawala
    on June 30, 2014 at 8:33 pm
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    @YaReally great first video. This is my own game journey. This whole “Holy shit…you mean girls really go for this??” 4:23 the guy who starts laughing like a hyena…”Modern men have forgotten how to act around women”. “The excuse is you’re a man and she’s a girl…you don’t need an excuse (to approach)”.


    • YaReally
      on July 2, 2014 at 12:12 pm
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      “4:23 the guy who starts laughing like a hyena…”

      People who slag on the PUA community and who go off on “yo just be a man brah, that’s what I do, lift some weights and you’ll get pussy, I don’t even get how you guys have to try so hard with all your lingo and approaching and shit, I just put on my Wranglers and mosey into the local bar where I’m a minor celebrity and raise my eyebrow at the hottest poon there and she sucks my dick brah” rants often don’t realize that THIS is the guy we’re trying to help.

      We’re not just helping some generally alpha dude who’s just forgotten a few things or needs to step up a bit, we’re heping the guys who are (no offense to that kid ’cause I’m sure he’s a nice dude lol) kind of socially retarded. Like everyone watching that kid burst out in weird laughter KNOWS that the thing he just did is a weird socially awkward thing. We can all feel it, I’m sure the coach feels that “oh god, please, stop” cringe inside a thousand times a night when he’s teaching a bootcamp.

      And that guy isn’t even that hard a case, he was at least chatty and decent looking. We get WAY harder cases than him, half the audience is filled with guys who make that laughing kid look like the coolest fucker on Earth.

      Feminists, anti-gamers, anti-PUAs, “just man up bra I’ve been gettin’ laid since I was 16″ guys, etc. don’t have any solutions for that kid. They can’t take that kid and tell him “do this this and this” and legitimately get him results. They write him off as a non-entity and just kind of brush him under the rug and hope he goes away so they don’t have to think about him.

      No one wants to help him because they don’t know how.

      But PUAs do. We can take this kid and give him our logical steps and exercises to follow and encourage him to put in the effort on his end with some guidance from us and the community, to help shake out or tone down some of his awkwardness and help bring out the parts of him that are attractive (or build them from the ground up) and present them as best he can to women to get him sex or a girlfriend.

      If that kid ever reads this, I’m not trying to pick on you, we’ve all had moments of weirdness, esp in high-nervousness situations like that (he’s meeting a personal idol of his), but it’s a good example of a guy who’s generally a normal looking average dude but is a little uncalibrated/awkward and finds a lot of value in what the PUA community teaches beyond a lot of the Manosphere “just lift weights and be aloof brah” vague advice (the Chateau being an exception to that vagueness of course, which is why I post here and enjoy reading the in-depth breakdowns of game concepts here lol)



Study: Civilized Chicks Dig Jerks

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Reco
on June 25, 2014 at 1:36 pm
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Possible Dropped Plate

@yareall, HABD, Steve H. So I met this really cute 25YO blondie online. She seemed to really like my profile and was very responsive. However I think I may have dropped this plate before I really got it spinning. Let me know what you masters think. Below is our initial text exchange it was accompanied by several pictures none of them too risqué mostly her doing different activities.

Her: Hi —-, It’s —— from —–, my real name is —-. I like your profile. 5:42 PM
Me: Hello —- how are you…and thanks for the compliment. 5:47 PM
Her: Been better at the moment but overall very well. Yourself? 5:55 PM (right away looking for white knight)
Me: Well I am doing fantastic. ..livin the dream…very nice photos 5:56 PM (did not bite on the white knite thing)
Me: So tell me a little about yourself 6:03 PM
Her: Thank you, I’ve got tons Haha. 6:03 PM
Her: Pics of you first :) 6:03 PM
Me: Sure what is your email 6:04 PM
Her: ——– 6:04 PM
Me: Sent 6:07 PM
Her: You’re handsome. My taste is rather particular though, unfortunately. Out of my control. It’s a shame I really like your profile. Maybe if you’re the patient kind, who allows attraction to grow over time instead of wanting sex right away? Often my taste changes depending on who I spend time with, you begin finding every imperfection as endearing, you know. Your thoughts? 6:18 PM (blah, blah, blah, her trying to get serious conversation)
Me: I am going into a dinner with some clients can I call you later?? 6:32 PM (me changing the subject and not responding to her attempt to steer the interaction, should have told her and not asked though)
Her: Sure 6:34 PM
Me: And I can be patient for the right things :) 6:35 PM (also bad form on my part being responsive to her lead)

As you can see above not the best work. But I was really busy with work and was about to meet my main girl my 30YO Indian babe. So I was a bit distracted. Lesson learned from this is to stay focused and if not focused put it off until I am. Good news she was still responsive to me. Next morning I reengaged after a really long and adventurous night and I was extremely tired. Once again timing is key here and mine was bad. My energy was way down and I was not on the ball. Text below:
Me: Hello ——- how are you 11:17 AM (weak start not flirty)
Her: Good, yourself? 11:42 AM (but so far she has been responsive)
Me: Doing great in —— today. ..what are you up to? 11:44 AM
Her: Nice, I like —– alot 11:57 AM
Her: Filing out paperwork and finances for study abroad 11:58 AM
Me: What’s your favorite place in the whole world 12:14 PM
Her: Hmm in your arms. Lol, a physical geographical place or metaphorical one? 12:15 PM (her trying to be flirty caught me off guard)
Me: I like your first answer…its a very cozy place ;) 12:17 PM (weak)
Her: for places I have been, California.For places I imagine, Southeast Asia, like Bali and Indonesia. 12:18 PM
Me: Nice…what do you like about cali 12:19 PM
Her: Weather, topography, health consciousness, spiritual consciousness, education, diversity, culture 12:20 PM
Her: High personal development index 12:21 PM
Me: That’s quite a list…how do you feel when you are there 12:22 PM (boring and I am trying to get it out of the boring zone)
Her: Home 12:23 PM
Her: I was born there and displaced when I was young 12:24 PM
Me: I am about to get out of this boring meeting I am going to call you in a minute 12:25 PM

I called her and we talked for a good while maybe 30 or 40 minutes. Did not go much better than the text. I got her laughing a bit and talking about herself. I think my biggest mistake was making it too straightforward and not enough fun and flirty and sexy. Because of how tired I was. Then I asked her to meet out for a drink and she said that she is leaving to go abroad on the 3rd and she is so busy, and we can meet when she gets back. Which is into August sounds like she is blowing me off. So I kind of played it off as no big deal and then kind of joked that I would be carefully waiting by the phone for when she came back. We also talked about her sending me photos when she is abroad and she told me about an app that allows her to do this. More like pen pals than fuckbuddies. Not my best work. I am thinking about how I can recover from this. What do you guys think? I have not texted or talked to her since, its been about a day and a half. I am thinking about texting her Friday to meet up for a drink Friday night. I can send her something cute to get her out of the house. What do you think of this plan? What should I have done differently? What should I do to move this forward?


  • YaReally
    on June 26, 2014 at 3:00 am
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    @reco
    Feeling like this is a money-grab scam.

    This seems like a cut & paste blurb:

    “Her: You’re handsome. My taste is rather particular though, unfortunately. Out of my control. It’s a shame I really like your profile. Maybe if you’re the patient kind, who allows attraction to grow over time instead of wanting sex right away? Often my taste changes depending on who I spend time with, you begin finding every imperfection as endearing, you know. Your thoughts?”

    Feels like she’s using it to hook guys on for the long-term, which while you get pics etc. out of it, is often combined over time with stuff about financial difficulties and stories of woe that hit you up for money.

    Like when I see:

    “Been better at the moment”
    “Filing out paperwork and finances for study abroad”
    “Southeast Asia, like Bali and Indonesia.”
    “I was born there and displaced when I was young”

    That sets off my “she’s going to hit you up for money with a sob story about wanting to travel abroad to visit her home she was displaced from” red flags.

    Plus her weird form of English, but maybe she’s just ESL.

    “she told me about an app that allows her to do this”

    Does the app or registering for it cost money at all?

    This one feels suspicious to me. I’m surprised she answered the phone though, I was expecting a runaround for that, so I could be wrong. Either way, proceed with some caution lol

    Not sure how to get her out, it doesn’t sound like she’s letting you gain much ground. I predict she txts you abroad that she’s in trouble there and needs money to get her out of jail or away from some “bad men” or something and needs you to wire her money. If that happens, don’t. lol

    More info: http://www.foreignbride101.com/SCAMS.html



Study: Civilized Chicks Dig Jerks

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Reco
on June 25, 2014 at 1:36 pm
Original Link

Possible Dropped Plate

@yareall, HABD, Steve H. So I met this really cute 25YO blondie online. She seemed to really like my profile and was very responsive. However I think I may have dropped this plate before I really got it spinning. Let me know what you masters think. Below is our initial text exchange it was accompanied by several pictures none of them too risqué mostly her doing different activities.

Her: Hi —-, It’s —— from —–, my real name is —-. I like your profile. 5:42 PM
Me: Hello —- how are you…and thanks for the compliment. 5:47 PM
Her: Been better at the moment but overall very well. Yourself? 5:55 PM (right away looking for white knight)
Me: Well I am doing fantastic. ..livin the dream…very nice photos 5:56 PM (did not bite on the white knite thing)
Me: So tell me a little about yourself 6:03 PM
Her: Thank you, I’ve got tons Haha. 6:03 PM
Her: Pics of you first :) 6:03 PM
Me: Sure what is your email 6:04 PM
Her: ——– 6:04 PM
Me: Sent 6:07 PM
Her: You’re handsome. My taste is rather particular though, unfortunately. Out of my control. It’s a shame I really like your profile. Maybe if you’re the patient kind, who allows attraction to grow over time instead of wanting sex right away? Often my taste changes depending on who I spend time with, you begin finding every imperfection as endearing, you know. Your thoughts? 6:18 PM (blah, blah, blah, her trying to get serious conversation)
Me: I am going into a dinner with some clients can I call you later?? 6:32 PM (me changing the subject and not responding to her attempt to steer the interaction, should have told her and not asked though)
Her: Sure 6:34 PM
Me: And I can be patient for the right things :) 6:35 PM (also bad form on my part being responsive to her lead)

As you can see above not the best work. But I was really busy with work and was about to meet my main girl my 30YO Indian babe. So I was a bit distracted. Lesson learned from this is to stay focused and if not focused put it off until I am. Good news she was still responsive to me. Next morning I reengaged after a really long and adventurous night and I was extremely tired. Once again timing is key here and mine was bad. My energy was way down and I was not on the ball. Text below:
Me: Hello ——- how are you 11:17 AM (weak start not flirty)
Her: Good, yourself? 11:42 AM (but so far she has been responsive)
Me: Doing great in —— today. ..what are you up to? 11:44 AM
Her: Nice, I like —– alot 11:57 AM
Her: Filing out paperwork and finances for study abroad 11:58 AM
Me: What’s your favorite place in the whole world 12:14 PM
Her: Hmm in your arms. Lol, a physical geographical place or metaphorical one? 12:15 PM (her trying to be flirty caught me off guard)
Me: I like your first answer…its a very cozy place ;) 12:17 PM (weak)
Her: for places I have been, California.For places I imagine, Southeast Asia, like Bali and Indonesia. 12:18 PM
Me: Nice…what do you like about cali 12:19 PM
Her: Weather, topography, health consciousness, spiritual consciousness, education, diversity, culture 12:20 PM
Her: High personal development index 12:21 PM
Me: That’s quite a list…how do you feel when you are there 12:22 PM (boring and I am trying to get it out of the boring zone)
Her: Home 12:23 PM
Her: I was born there and displaced when I was young 12:24 PM
Me: I am about to get out of this boring meeting I am going to call you in a minute 12:25 PM

I called her and we talked for a good while maybe 30 or 40 minutes. Did not go much better than the text. I got her laughing a bit and talking about herself. I think my biggest mistake was making it too straightforward and not enough fun and flirty and sexy. Because of how tired I was. Then I asked her to meet out for a drink and she said that she is leaving to go abroad on the 3rd and she is so busy, and we can meet when she gets back. Which is into August sounds like she is blowing me off. So I kind of played it off as no big deal and then kind of joked that I would be carefully waiting by the phone for when she came back. We also talked about her sending me photos when she is abroad and she told me about an app that allows her to do this. More like pen pals than fuckbuddies. Not my best work. I am thinking about how I can recover from this. What do you guys think? I have not texted or talked to her since, its been about a day and a half. I am thinking about texting her Friday to meet up for a drink Friday night. I can send her something cute to get her out of the house. What do you think of this plan? What should I have done differently? What should I do to move this forward?


  • YaReally
    on June 26, 2014 at 3:00 am
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    @reco
    Feeling like this is a money-grab scam.

    This seems like a cut & paste blurb:

    “Her: You’re handsome. My taste is rather particular though, unfortunately. Out of my control. It’s a shame I really like your profile. Maybe if you’re the patient kind, who allows attraction to grow over time instead of wanting sex right away? Often my taste changes depending on who I spend time with, you begin finding every imperfection as endearing, you know. Your thoughts?”

    Feels like she’s using it to hook guys on for the long-term, which while you get pics etc. out of it, is often combined over time with stuff about financial difficulties and stories of woe that hit you up for money.

    Like when I see:

    “Been better at the moment”
    “Filing out paperwork and finances for study abroad”
    “Southeast Asia, like Bali and Indonesia.”
    “I was born there and displaced when I was young”

    That sets off my “she’s going to hit you up for money with a sob story about wanting to travel abroad to visit her home she was displaced from” red flags.

    Plus her weird form of English, but maybe she’s just ESL.

    “she told me about an app that allows her to do this”

    Does the app or registering for it cost money at all?

    This one feels suspicious to me. I’m surprised she answered the phone though, I was expecting a runaround for that, so I could be wrong. Either way, proceed with some caution lol

    Not sure how to get her out, it doesn’t sound like she’s letting you gain much ground. I predict she txts you abroad that she’s in trouble there and needs money to get her out of jail or away from some “bad men” or something and needs you to wire her money. If that happens, don’t. lol

    More info: http://www.foreignbride101.com/SCAMS.html



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cheesetrader
on June 25, 2014 at 2:24 pm
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Apropos of nothing – just a tidbit to share in the department of “women see what they want to see”

I’m out for a drink with my 23 yo fwb last night. We’re talking about roommates from hell in our pasts.

I lean back and say something about one from 1987 and she goes “That was before I was born”

I look at her and say “Are you sure you’re cool enough to date a man who’s 50?”

She replies “Nope. You’re 34 in my mind. That’s what I see”

Much fun later on as she proved herself to me yet again.

And yes, I really am 50 and blessed to live in a college town


  • Reco
    on June 25, 2014 at 4:02 pm
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    Like that story…and I can use that line and will.


    • YaReally
      on June 26, 2014 at 2:42 am
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      I like to stare them down with hard laser eye-contact and (slowly moving forward into her space if we’re standing) in a low serious sexual tone with a slight half-grin say “And are you…intimidated, by older men…” (periods and commas to represent the way I pause to build emphasis/tension lol check those Liam Mcrae Rapid Escalation vids I always link) and just stare her down till she blushes and answers.

      Has never gotten me anything but extremely good responses. Just sent a 23yo fuckbuddy home and pulled 20yo’s with my 30yo buddy a few weeks back.

      I like this one because while it’s a challenge just like “are you cool enough”, it has a bonus of adding a sexual qualifying tone to things VS a fun qualifying tone. I actually often use this as a springboard to switch gears from flirty/fun to sexual/intent, it’s part of why I don’t shy away from (and sometimes actually instigate) age conversations.


  • JohnDSee
    on June 25, 2014 at 6:29 pm
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    The ‘that was before I was born’ line is indicative of a half-wit. The same idiots will say that if you tell them that ‘Goodfellas’ is one of your favorite movies. As if it has anything to do with the point. WW2 happened before they were born too. Just another idiotic semi-shit test.


    • YaReally
      on June 27, 2014 at 3:41 pm
      Original Link

      For anyone reading this in the future, note the attitudes of the 3 “these bitches are stupid, it’s so frustrating, very annoying, quality over quantity, what dumbasses, they’re rude, half-wits, wahhh wahhh” posts above.

      Older guys who actually get with hot young chicks aren’t fazed by this stuff. They lol about it and tease the girl for being too young to appreciate the finer things in life yet. They don’t get all crybaby butthurt like these guys lol


    • YaReally
      on June 27, 2014 at 3:44 pm
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      To follow-up a bit: if a little silly girl can shake your frame and send you on an emotional butthurt rollercoaster over not having seen a movie from before she was born or whatever, what the fuck else in the work can shake your frame and what does that tell her about how solid you are?

      You’re a fucking MAN, you’re like a solid oak tree that can’t be pushed around by her silly shit. You don’t get annoyed and cry about it lol Do you freak out and bitch and moan about your big dumb dog pooping on the couch or a baby crying? No, it doesn’t even realize it’s retarded, you just lol and teach it better.


    • YaReally
      on June 27, 2014 at 4:13 pm
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      “i don’t understand why anyone would want a girl who insults you like that”

      Because it has as much relevance to my self-esteem as a 5yo calling me a poopy-head. Are you going to give your 5yo up for adoption because he “insulted” you? lol

      “When you know you are high value, you only tolerate the best of the best.”

      We all know Greg is slaying super hot poon every night. I am certain that with your guys’ mindset, you and him are both surrounded by hot high quality supermodels making you sandwiches right this very second.

      http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/238/423/a4e.jpg



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cheesetrader
on June 25, 2014 at 2:24 pm
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Apropos of nothing – just a tidbit to share in the department of “women see what they want to see”

I’m out for a drink with my 23 yo fwb last night. We’re talking about roommates from hell in our pasts.

I lean back and say something about one from 1987 and she goes “That was before I was born”

I look at her and say “Are you sure you’re cool enough to date a man who’s 50?”

She replies “Nope. You’re 34 in my mind. That’s what I see”

Much fun later on as she proved herself to me yet again.

And yes, I really am 50 and blessed to live in a college town


  • Reco
    on June 25, 2014 at 4:02 pm
    Original Link

    Like that story…and I can use that line and will.


    • YaReally
      on June 26, 2014 at 2:42 am
      Original Link

      I like to stare them down with hard laser eye-contact and (slowly moving forward into her space if we’re standing) in a low serious sexual tone with a slight half-grin say “And are you…intimidated, by older men…” (periods and commas to represent the way I pause to build emphasis/tension lol check those Liam Mcrae Rapid Escalation vids I always link) and just stare her down till she blushes and answers.

      Has never gotten me anything but extremely good responses. Just sent a 23yo fuckbuddy home and pulled 20yo’s with my 30yo buddy a few weeks back.

      I like this one because while it’s a challenge just like “are you cool enough”, it has a bonus of adding a sexual qualifying tone to things VS a fun qualifying tone. I actually often use this as a springboard to switch gears from flirty/fun to sexual/intent, it’s part of why I don’t shy away from (and sometimes actually instigate) age conversations.


  • JohnDSee
    on June 25, 2014 at 6:29 pm
    Original Link

    The ‘that was before I was born’ line is indicative of a half-wit. The same idiots will say that if you tell them that ‘Goodfellas’ is one of your favorite movies. As if it has anything to do with the point. WW2 happened before they were born too. Just another idiotic semi-shit test.


    • YaReally
      on June 27, 2014 at 3:41 pm
      Original Link

      For anyone reading this in the future, note the attitudes of the 3 “these bitches are stupid, it’s so frustrating, very annoying, quality over quantity, what dumbasses, they’re rude, half-wits, wahhh wahhh” posts above.

      Older guys who actually get with hot young chicks aren’t fazed by this stuff. They lol about it and tease the girl for being too young to appreciate the finer things in life yet. They don’t get all crybaby butthurt like these guys lol


    • YaReally
      on June 27, 2014 at 3:44 pm
      Original Link

      To follow-up a bit: if a little silly girl can shake your frame and send you on an emotional butthurt rollercoaster over not having seen a movie from before she was born or whatever, what the fuck else in the work can shake your frame and what does that tell her about how solid you are?

      You’re a fucking MAN, you’re like a solid oak tree that can’t be pushed around by her silly shit. You don’t get annoyed and cry about it lol Do you freak out and bitch and moan about your big dumb dog pooping on the couch or a baby crying? No, it doesn’t even realize it’s retarded, you just lol and teach it better.


    • YaReally
      on June 27, 2014 at 4:13 pm
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      “i don’t understand why anyone would want a girl who insults you like that”

      Because it has as much relevance to my self-esteem as a 5yo calling me a poopy-head. Are you going to give your 5yo up for adoption because he “insulted” you? lol

      “When you know you are high value, you only tolerate the best of the best.”

      We all know Greg is slaying super hot poon every night. I am certain that with your guys’ mindset, you and him are both surrounded by hot high quality supermodels making you sandwiches right this very second.



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Reservoir Tip
on June 25, 2014 at 3:44 pm
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Question for the gang here,

This may be a hopeless situation, but bear with me, and I’d appreciate the best advice you have.

Split with an ex a few months ago now. I had sent out a picture in a group text, not realizing their responses would also send to each other. The picture was nothing dirty, but it was sent to a few of my girls, including my favorite, the one this post is about.

She flipped. Accused me of cheating, even though I never made things official with her, and so on. Wouldn’t even talk to me for a while. We talked after a while, nothing ground-breaking, though. I was totally aloof with this girl all the time. She told me she loved me, and all that stuff.

We had another phone conversation more recently where she asked me if I had sex with other girls while she and I were talking and I said yes (stupid). That was pretty much it for her, it seems. We spoke briefly after that, but I’ve singed been blocked from her Facebook, snapchat, and she deleted my phone number. Apparently she’s dating someone too.

It seems like this one is lost, to me. I went back and read the old CH ex-girlfriend post and this seems to tell the tale of a woman detached.

She told me she wanted to, “feel loved for a change.”


  • JironGhrad
    on June 25, 2014 at 9:55 pm
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    Too much aloof. Girls need “some” reassurance that they aren’t being used. Even (especially) if they are. Pack it up and find another.


    • YaReally
      on June 26, 2014 at 2:48 am
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      Yup. I do the opposite of thrust in that I admit to girls I’m with that I see other girls like you did, but the reason it works for me is that when that girl is with me I make her feel like the specialist little flower in the world who’s more important than the other girls (because I actually like my fuckbuddies lol, I don’t keep around girls I’m not actually into where I’d have to fake genuinely caring about them)…so I hit the same balance that a guy who’s aloof and then hides that he sees other girls hits.

      This is EXTRA vital when you have an LTR girlfriend and want to bang around…she has to always feel like she’s your Primary and more special than the other girls.

      So there’s two options for handling it, but whichever way you go you have to balance it out. Your chick freaked because like the other guys said you didn’t make her feel reassured that she wasn’t just a piece of random meat to you like the other girls.



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Reservoir Tip
on June 25, 2014 at 3:44 pm
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Question for the gang here,

This may be a hopeless situation, but bear with me, and I’d appreciate the best advice you have.

Split with an ex a few months ago now. I had sent out a picture in a group text, not realizing their responses would also send to each other. The picture was nothing dirty, but it was sent to a few of my girls, including my favorite, the one this post is about.

She flipped. Accused me of cheating, even though I never made things official with her, and so on. Wouldn’t even talk to me for a while. We talked after a while, nothing ground-breaking, though. I was totally aloof with this girl all the time. She told me she loved me, and all that stuff.

We had another phone conversation more recently where she asked me if I had sex with other girls while she and I were talking and I said yes (stupid). That was pretty much it for her, it seems. We spoke briefly after that, but I’ve singed been blocked from her Facebook, snapchat, and she deleted my phone number. Apparently she’s dating someone too.

It seems like this one is lost, to me. I went back and read the old CH ex-girlfriend post and this seems to tell the tale of a woman detached.

She told me she wanted to, “feel loved for a change.”


  • JironGhrad
    on June 25, 2014 at 9:55 pm
    Original Link

    Too much aloof. Girls need “some” reassurance that they aren’t being used. Even (especially) if they are. Pack it up and find another.


    • YaReally
      on June 26, 2014 at 2:48 am
      Original Link

      Yup. I do the opposite of thrust in that I admit to girls I’m with that I see other girls like you did, but the reason it works for me is that when that girl is with me I make her feel like the specialist little flower in the world who’s more important than the other girls (because I actually like my fuckbuddies lol, I don’t keep around girls I’m not actually into where I’d have to fake genuinely caring about them)…so I hit the same balance that a guy who’s aloof and then hides that he sees other girls hits.

      This is EXTRA vital when you have an LTR girlfriend and want to bang around…she has to always feel like she’s your Primary and more special than the other girls.

      So there’s two options for handling it, but whichever way you go you have to balance it out. Your chick freaked because like the other guys said you didn’t make her feel reassured that she wasn’t just a piece of random meat to you like the other girls.



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Hunter
on June 26, 2014 at 12:52 pm
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Shitty text game, take two. Practicing YaReally’s way to practice texting. She sends first message.

OKCupid –

Her: you had me at fight club.

Me: shhh looks like you forgot the first rule ;) how ya doing there lady

Her: :X

i’m doing just fine. a bit tired but enjoying @midnight before bed.

yourself, sir?

Me: ah i see what you’re doing. can’t tuck you in yet sorry ;)

I’m actually working on my body posture, have a pretty bad back. Must’ve been all the fights. Self-improvement’s pretty important to me.

What about you, any special talents? Hopes, dreams?

Her: Haha I guess my tricks don’t work on you

I don’t think I have any one talent I’m more of a Jack of trades. I can carry a tune and I enjoy drawing but I think a lot of what in good at are soft skills – reading people, talking, etc

Me: A girl with that many talents certainly has other tricks up her sleeve ;) lol I do marketing at a startup. Not the most glamorous job, but a lot of psychology involved. Trying to get into advertising in a month. Do you actually dance or did you just list that in your hobbies to sound like a badass?

Her: by dance i mean i go out to Y (or X if forced) and get hammered and and do my best not to embarrass myself. i have been known to back-bend on a few occasions, though… and for a white girl i like to think i’m not terrible at wining.

Me: AHA is that a challenge I hear? Bring it, I’ll take you down anytime. Also back-bend sounds like a very uncomfortable position, not sure what kind of dancing you’re doing lol

I’ve been to Wrigley quite a bit… how have I not seen you out? Unless you were that hammered blonde chick who pushed me randomly, that wasn’t you was it

Her: no. no challenge. i’d lose. i’m confident, not cocky.

back bending is not uncomfortable when you’re flexible.

and i don’t THINK i’ve pushed anyone but i’ve been hammered out there a lot so it’s quite possible. i go to (list of places) i try to avoid deuces/douches and barleycorn as much as possible.

Me: We could try X

Maybe i’ll just watch you dance since you’re flexible.

damn it, scrambling my civilized mind over here. I’m a bad guy

Her: Hahaha I won’t blame you for that one, I led you into it.

Although maybe we should try one drink out first before moving on to watching me dance? Lol

Me: Ugh why am I so aroused, I feel like you’re bringing this outta me

Her: My baaaad

Me: Lies. I read your mind. You’re thinking about me spinning it like a helicopter right now. I’m not a piece o meat!

Her (next day): Def just laughed out loud on the red line. #points

Yeah it sucked, obviously. Just tell mer where I started spiraling into her qualifying me as a provider/chasing beta.


  • immoralgables
    on June 26, 2014 at 1:48 pm
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    Hunter – Nice work brother. A couple pointers.

    1) Have a goal in mind. Ya like sure you want to develop rapport, qualify the girl a bit, joke and what not but keep pushing towards the meet up. It’s also good to screen for logistics so on tinder for example I’ll sometimes say something like “So where in the city do ya live or are you tindering me from the safety of your parents basement?”

    a. It usually gets them laughing and I find out how far away they are so when it comes time to setup a meetup, I can pick a spot that’s convenient for both of us.

    2) Find out whether she is open to meet up. Just ask if they’ve met anyone through online before or you can tell a couple stories of experiences you had. You want to sift out the boyfriend hunters, attention seekers from the girls who are open to meet.

    3) It’s cool to let the interaction go sideways but after a bit I shift gears and go for it. Just have a go to line that you can use to take the pressure off. Mine is usually like “Welp assuming you’re not a serial killer it seems like we could get along. We should meet up later in the week for something simple- like drinks. Let me know how that sounds.”

    4) Boom keep it moving from there.

    I actually typed up a transcript of a cutie I got off tinder where I convey a lot of this. I’m down to share with you I’ll just email it from my dummy gmail account (mbarksdale85@gmail.com) Setup a dummy one as well. I’d post it on the board but it’s a bit lengthy.


    • YaReally
      on June 27, 2014 at 3:23 pm
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      @Hunter
      “Her: wooooow moving straight to inviting me to your place

      you don’t waste time. what makes you think i’m that kinda girl?”

      When they do this (I get this exact shit-test all the time because I push for the meetup like Scray was saying…I use “What part of the city do you live in?” after a high point when she’s laughing, just asking the question implies I intend to meet up), I back off slightly because this is her saying “I’m into you buuuut you’re going a liiiittle too far for my Comfort level” so I calibrate to her social cue and say:

      “Oh I know you’re not. The amount of shit you’ve given me already tells me you aren’t that easy lol But I figure after that message, suggesting we meet up for drinks at Blah this weekend won’t seem so intimidating. ;)”

      So it’s like I’m complimenting her and pulling back away from being too forward, while at the same time still pushing towards the meetup, it’s just now a safer simpler meetup that she’s likely to go for because she IS attracted (if she wasn’t she just wouldn’t txt you anymore, but she’s shit-testing because she’s hoping you’ll pass that shit-test). They very rarely aren’t up for drinks after I send that bit. Then I just meet up and escalate in person back to my place lol


  • newlyaloof
    on June 26, 2014 at 2:26 pm
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    YaR will school you I’m sure, but I believe you didn’t sexualize fast or good enough and you tried to make her laugh more then make her cum. Texts way too long too. I remember reading YaR’s archive and how badass his texts and hypothetical convos at bars were. Always stearing the conversation to the sexual.

    Knowing this, the first thing I thought of that you could have said was:

    Her: you had me at fight club.

    Me: I love that movie. Wear a skirt, come over and we’ll watch it.

    If she objected to that, it would have saved you a lot of typing knowing off the bat she wasn’t DTF.


    • YaReally
      on June 27, 2014 at 3:27 pm
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      “Me: I love that movie. Wear a skirt, come over and we’ll watch it.”

      Nah, this is too sloppy/uncalibrated (no offense). At that point he hasn’t built any kind of Value (aside from the minimal amount for her to txt him) and hasn’t built any kind of Comfort whatsoever.

      He could do it but he’d get either a huge shit-test and trigger all sorts of ASD he’d have to diffuse (which is do-able, but a pain in the ass), or she would just write him off as a sleazy guy (esp online where most guys are that way) and never reply to him again.

      Gotta’ think of the whole interaction/seduction-dance as fun, not a chore. Girls know they can get sex whenever they want, they want that whole build-up to it, just like when you go to a movie you don’t skip to the end, you want to see the whole movie and enjoy the whole experience of getting to the end.



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Hunter
on June 26, 2014 at 12:52 pm
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Shitty text game, take two. Practicing YaReally’s way to practice texting. She sends first message.

OKCupid –

Her: you had me at fight club.

Me: shhh looks like you forgot the first rule ;) how ya doing there lady

Her: :X

i’m doing just fine. a bit tired but enjoying @midnight before bed.

yourself, sir?

Me: ah i see what you’re doing. can’t tuck you in yet sorry ;)

I’m actually working on my body posture, have a pretty bad back. Must’ve been all the fights. Self-improvement’s pretty important to me.

What about you, any special talents? Hopes, dreams?

Her: Haha I guess my tricks don’t work on you

I don’t think I have any one talent I’m more of a Jack of trades. I can carry a tune and I enjoy drawing but I think a lot of what in good at are soft skills – reading people, talking, etc

Me: A girl with that many talents certainly has other tricks up her sleeve ;) lol I do marketing at a startup. Not the most glamorous job, but a lot of psychology involved. Trying to get into advertising in a month. Do you actually dance or did you just list that in your hobbies to sound like a badass?

Her: by dance i mean i go out to Y (or X if forced) and get hammered and and do my best not to embarrass myself. i have been known to back-bend on a few occasions, though… and for a white girl i like to think i’m not terrible at wining.

Me: AHA is that a challenge I hear? Bring it, I’ll take you down anytime. Also back-bend sounds like a very uncomfortable position, not sure what kind of dancing you’re doing lol

I’ve been to Wrigley quite a bit… how have I not seen you out? Unless you were that hammered blonde chick who pushed me randomly, that wasn’t you was it

Her: no. no challenge. i’d lose. i’m confident, not cocky.

back bending is not uncomfortable when you’re flexible.

and i don’t THINK i’ve pushed anyone but i’ve been hammered out there a lot so it’s quite possible. i go to (list of places) i try to avoid deuces/douches and barleycorn as much as possible.

Me: We could try X

Maybe i’ll just watch you dance since you’re flexible.

damn it, scrambling my civilized mind over here. I’m a bad guy

Her: Hahaha I won’t blame you for that one, I led you into it.

Although maybe we should try one drink out first before moving on to watching me dance? Lol

Me: Ugh why am I so aroused, I feel like you’re bringing this outta me

Her: My baaaad

Me: Lies. I read your mind. You’re thinking about me spinning it like a helicopter right now. I’m not a piece o meat!

Her (next day): Def just laughed out loud on the red line. #points

Yeah it sucked, obviously. Just tell mer where I started spiraling into her qualifying me as a provider/chasing beta.


  • immoralgables
    on June 26, 2014 at 1:48 pm
    Original Link

    Hunter – Nice work brother. A couple pointers.

    1) Have a goal in mind. Ya like sure you want to develop rapport, qualify the girl a bit, joke and what not but keep pushing towards the meet up. It’s also good to screen for logistics so on tinder for example I’ll sometimes say something like “So where in the city do ya live or are you tindering me from the safety of your parents basement?”

    a. It usually gets them laughing and I find out how far away they are so when it comes time to setup a meetup, I can pick a spot that’s convenient for both of us.

    2) Find out whether she is open to meet up. Just ask if they’ve met anyone through online before or you can tell a couple stories of experiences you had. You want to sift out the boyfriend hunters, attention seekers from the girls who are open to meet.

    3) It’s cool to let the interaction go sideways but after a bit I shift gears and go for it. Just have a go to line that you can use to take the pressure off. Mine is usually like “Welp assuming you’re not a serial killer it seems like we could get along. We should meet up later in the week for something simple- like drinks. Let me know how that sounds.”

    4) Boom keep it moving from there.

    I actually typed up a transcript of a cutie I got off tinder where I convey a lot of this. I’m down to share with you I’ll just email it from my dummy gmail account (mbarksdale85@gmail.com) Setup a dummy one as well. I’d post it on the board but it’s a bit lengthy.


    • YaReally
      on June 27, 2014 at 3:23 pm
      Original Link

      @Hunter
      “Her: wooooow moving straight to inviting me to your place

      you don’t waste time. what makes you think i’m that kinda girl?”

      When they do this (I get this exact shit-test all the time because I push for the meetup like Scray was saying…I use “What part of the city do you live in?” after a high point when she’s laughing, just asking the question implies I intend to meet up), I back off slightly because this is her saying “I’m into you buuuut you’re going a liiiittle too far for my Comfort level” so I calibrate to her social cue and say:

      “Oh I know you’re not. The amount of shit you’ve given me already tells me you aren’t that easy lol But I figure after that message, suggesting we meet up for drinks at Blah this weekend won’t seem so intimidating. ;)”

      So it’s like I’m complimenting her and pulling back away from being too forward, while at the same time still pushing towards the meetup, it’s just now a safer simpler meetup that she’s likely to go for because she IS attracted (if she wasn’t she just wouldn’t txt you anymore, but she’s shit-testing because she’s hoping you’ll pass that shit-test). They very rarely aren’t up for drinks after I send that bit. Then I just meet up and escalate in person back to my place lol


  • newlyaloof
    on June 26, 2014 at 2:26 pm
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    YaR will school you I’m sure, but I believe you didn’t sexualize fast or good enough and you tried to make her laugh more then make her cum. Texts way too long too. I remember reading YaR’s archive and how badass his texts and hypothetical convos at bars were. Always stearing the conversation to the sexual.

    Knowing this, the first thing I thought of that you could have said was:

    Her: you had me at fight club.

    Me: I love that movie. Wear a skirt, come over and we’ll watch it.

    If she objected to that, it would have saved you a lot of typing knowing off the bat she wasn’t DTF.


    • YaReally
      on June 27, 2014 at 3:27 pm
      Original Link

      “Me: I love that movie. Wear a skirt, come over and we’ll watch it.”

      Nah, this is too sloppy/uncalibrated (no offense). At that point he hasn’t built any kind of Value (aside from the minimal amount for her to txt him) and hasn’t built any kind of Comfort whatsoever.

      He could do it but he’d get either a huge shit-test and trigger all sorts of ASD he’d have to diffuse (which is do-able, but a pain in the ass), or she would just write him off as a sleazy guy (esp online where most guys are that way) and never reply to him again.

      Gotta’ think of the whole interaction/seduction-dance as fun, not a chore. Girls know they can get sex whenever they want, they want that whole build-up to it, just like when you go to a movie you don’t skip to the end, you want to see the whole movie and enjoy the whole experience of getting to the end.



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Slothlemur
on June 21, 2014 at 12:22 pm
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But wait….Elliot Rodger (incel killer) had a BMW and still got no pussy. Worldless car game should be BS in that case…


  • YaReally
    on June 21, 2014 at 3:33 pm
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    When the same action provides two different results, it’s time to drill down a further level to figure out what’s causing the difference, until you get down to something that provides a consistent result. That’s where the core hardwired attractive trait is.

    Bob drives a nice car and gets laid. Joe drives the same car and doesn’t get laid. Logically the car itself is not inherently attractive, there are deeper levels to drill down to, to really distill it all into a rule where you can say “X is always attractive to women”…that rule won’t involve the car.


    • YaReally
      on June 23, 2014 at 12:56 pm
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      @reco
      Flirty, establish that frame from the start. Classic PUA rule of Assume Attraction.

      Don’t go into overtly sexual stuff or get sucked into sexting (leave some tension in the air so she wants to meet up, don’t give all the milk away for free), but something like “this is your lucky week, I’ll be passing thru your city. ;)” Like just something like that where she knows you’re going to fuck her and set up a date to go for drinks and then just tell her you’ll txt her when you land. Don’t have to invest a ton of time txting her, she sounds into you enough that she’ll be looking forward to it and run out to get her nails done and her vag waxed or whatever girls do lol

      Standard Operating Procedure once you meet up for drinks. Pick somewhere quiet cozy and anonymous, run some game, extract back to your hotel to bang, should be by the books. She’s probably married or has her own shit going on and is just up for an adventurous fling with you while you’re in town.

      Good luck, have fun lol



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But wait….Elliot Rodger (incel killer) had a BMW and still got no pussy. Worldless car game should be BS in that case…


  • YaReally
    on June 21, 2014 at 3:33 pm
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    When the same action provides two different results, it’s time to drill down a further level to figure out what’s causing the difference, until you get down to something that provides a consistent result. That’s where the core hardwired attractive trait is.

    Bob drives a nice car and gets laid. Joe drives the same car and doesn’t get laid. Logically the car itself is not inherently attractive, there are deeper levels to drill down to, to really distill it all into a rule where you can say “X is always attractive to women”…that rule won’t involve the car.


    • YaReally
      on June 23, 2014 at 12:56 pm
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      @reco
      Flirty, establish that frame from the start. Classic PUA rule of Assume Attraction.

      Don’t go into overtly sexual stuff or get sucked into sexting (leave some tension in the air so she wants to meet up, don’t give all the milk away for free), but something like “this is your lucky week, I’ll be passing thru your city. ;)” Like just something like that where she knows you’re going to fuck her and set up a date to go for drinks and then just tell her you’ll txt her when you land. Don’t have to invest a ton of time txting her, she sounds into you enough that she’ll be looking forward to it and run out to get her nails done and her vag waxed or whatever girls do lol

      Standard Operating Procedure once you meet up for drinks. Pick somewhere quiet cozy and anonymous, run some game, extract back to your hotel to bang, should be by the books. She’s probably married or has her own shit going on and is just up for an adventurous fling with you while you’re in town.

      Good luck, have fun lol



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I looked at several. I didn’t come away nearly as critical as you two. Don’t get me wrong, some of the thumbnail photos scared me for life.



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I looked at several. I didn’t come away nearly as critical as you two. Don’t get me wrong, some of the thumbnail photos scared me for life.


  • Zombie Shane
    on June 19, 2014 at 1:11 pm
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    Some of them look marginally okay if you glance at them quickly. For instance:

    But if you pause and look closely, then you’ll realize that

    1) Her hair is artificially colored a reddish-purple, and

    2) She has a piece of metal sticking out of the left side of her nose.

    Either 1) or 2) would be a complete deal-breaker in terms of a chick being the mother of your children.


    • YaReally
      on June 19, 2014 at 2:36 pm
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      Would happily bang lol



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Only peripherally related to this post, but interesting article for YaReally et al about the famous fashion photographer Terry Richardson – basically this is a profile about the guy and the recent scandal about him.

http://nymag.com/thecut/2014/06/terry-richardson-interview.html

This is a fashion photographer who basically specialized in getting models who came for shoots to first pose nude and then convinced them to give him blowjobs or fuck him, all on camera (which he then published). Usually in the presence of a number of assistants egging them on and clicking them away, some of them female.

Unsurprisingly, some of the women have now gone public talking about how (although they consented) they felt coerced by the power imbalance and the influence he had on their careers etc.

I have no doubt that some of the women are telling the truth and genuinely left (or did stuff they really didn’t want to do) because of that pressure. But reading between the lines of the article (about the social pressure he created, how he created an atmosphere where being naked and sexual was fun and free and cool etc and in a dominant way plus he was massively socially proofed) suggests to me that in many of the cases the women went along with it perfectly willingly in the heat of the moment but had *massive* Buyer’s Remorse later (esp when they realized that the picture of him actually coming on their face was going to be published in a photography book and they had actually signed the model release allowing that) and are now looking to justify it..

Thoughts?


  • YaReally
    on June 19, 2014 at 2:43 pm
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    “But reading between the lines of the article (about the social pressure he created, how he created an atmosphere where being naked and sexual was fun and free and cool etc and in a dominant way plus he was massively socially proofed) suggests to me that in many of the cases the women went along with it perfectly willingly in the heat of the moment but had *massive* Buyer’s Remorse later (esp when they realized that the picture of him actually coming on their face was going to be published in a photography book and they had actually signed the model release allowing that) and are now looking to justify it..”

    Dead on.

    That dude is a prime example of why you want to learn to manage Buyer’s Remorse. He’s rich and connected enough to not have to care about it, but for the average dude, the difference between a rape accusation and “omg that was the hottest sex of my life” is basically “did he make me feel special or used afterward”.

    I think the interesting part of this is watching society take all responsibility off the women involved. None of them wanted to do it in the moment, they were all innocent victims. I don’t know how his cock got in my mouth and when I sucked him off for 5 min and let them take pics of me with jizz on my face I don’t know how any of that happened! One chick was like, they showed her photos of herself with multiple haircuts meaning she consensually went back to him a few times for more photo sessions and she’s like “uhh I don’t know how to explain that, I don’t remember that at all, umm I think that just goes to show that I was even MORE traumatized than I realize!!!”

    Lol ok there lady.

    The end goal of feminism is to create a society where women aren’t held responsible or accountable for their actions, everything negative can be blamed on men, and men are relegated to working in sewers and construction to keep their air conditioned office HR/CEO jobs functioning while they bone the top 5% of men as the 80-20 beta/alpha gap widens to 95/5 as they beat men down and remove all their male role models and male influences (fathers, teachers, etc.).

    Anyway, learn to avoid Buyer’s Remorse. Do some cuddling, ask about her life, get to know her a bit, make her feel like a special flower, tell her to txt you when she gets home, txt her the next day and joke around (and talk about last night so you have txt confessions that she enjoyed the night before incase you need some evidence) and if you don’t want to see her again do a slow fade-away instead of an abrupt “ok time for you to go” toss-out after you blow your load.



Value Shit Tests Vs Comfort Shit Tests

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Only peripherally related to this post, but interesting article for YaReally et al about the famous fashion photographer Terry Richardson – basically this is a profile about the guy and the recent scandal about him.

http://nymag.com/thecut/2014/06/terry-richardson-interview.html

This is a fashion photographer who basically specialized in getting models who came for shoots to first pose nude and then convinced them to give him blowjobs or fuck him, all on camera (which he then published). Usually in the presence of a number of assistants egging them on and clicking them away, some of them female.

Unsurprisingly, some of the women have now gone public talking about how (although they consented) they felt coerced by the power imbalance and the influence he had on their careers etc.

I have no doubt that some of the women are telling the truth and genuinely left (or did stuff they really didn’t want to do) because of that pressure. But reading between the lines of the article (about the social pressure he created, how he created an atmosphere where being naked and sexual was fun and free and cool etc and in a dominant way plus he was massively socially proofed) suggests to me that in many of the cases the women went along with it perfectly willingly in the heat of the moment but had *massive* Buyer’s Remorse later (esp when they realized that the picture of him actually coming on their face was going to be published in a photography book and they had actually signed the model release allowing that) and are now looking to justify it..

Thoughts?


  • YaReally
    on June 19, 2014 at 2:43 pm
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    “But reading between the lines of the article (about the social pressure he created, how he created an atmosphere where being naked and sexual was fun and free and cool etc and in a dominant way plus he was massively socially proofed) suggests to me that in many of the cases the women went along with it perfectly willingly in the heat of the moment but had *massive* Buyer’s Remorse later (esp when they realized that the picture of him actually coming on their face was going to be published in a photography book and they had actually signed the model release allowing that) and are now looking to justify it..”

    Dead on.

    That dude is a prime example of why you want to learn to manage Buyer’s Remorse. He’s rich and connected enough to not have to care about it, but for the average dude, the difference between a rape accusation and “omg that was the hottest sex of my life” is basically “did he make me feel special or used afterward”.

    I think the interesting part of this is watching society take all responsibility off the women involved. None of them wanted to do it in the moment, they were all innocent victims. I don’t know how his cock got in my mouth and when I sucked him off for 5 min and let them take pics of me with jizz on my face I don’t know how any of that happened! One chick was like, they showed her photos of herself with multiple haircuts meaning she consensually went back to him a few times for more photo sessions and she’s like “uhh I don’t know how to explain that, I don’t remember that at all, umm I think that just goes to show that I was even MORE traumatized than I realize!!!”

    Lol ok there lady.

    The end goal of feminism is to create a society where women aren’t held responsible or accountable for their actions, everything negative can be blamed on men, and men are relegated to working in sewers and construction to keep their air conditioned office HR/CEO jobs functioning while they bone the top 5% of men as the 80-20 beta/alpha gap widens to 95/5 as they beat men down and remove all their male role models and male influences (fathers, teachers, etc.).

    Anyway, learn to avoid Buyer’s Remorse. Do some cuddling, ask about her life, get to know her a bit, make her feel like a special flower, tell her to txt you when she gets home, txt her the next day and joke around (and talk about last night so you have txt confessions that she enjoyed the night before incase you need some evidence) and if you don’t want to see her again do a slow fade-away instead of an abrupt “ok time for you to go” toss-out after you blow your load.



There Are Single Moms, And Then There’s Everyone Else

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Amy
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I wonder why it’s dropped so much?

[CH: across-the-board secular decline in all crime categories. also, you'll note that the decline appears to have stopped and maybe even begun reversing. Peter Turchin would have something to say about all this.]


  • Zombie Shane
    on June 18, 2014 at 7:52 am
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    Amy, June 17, 2014 at 2:24 pm: “college experimentation aside, I’m not bisexual”

    Amy, June 17, 2014 at 8:07 pm: “Pluviophile (and the various troll aliases he uses) has developed an unhealthy obsession with my sex life”

    Amy, look, I know you’re a chick, and the concept of intellectual consistency is pretty much utterly foreign to your sex, but dadgummit, can you not see the mixed messages which you are sending here?

    Either be a prude.

    Or be a slut.

    But don’t try simultaneously to have it both ways.


    • YaReally
      on June 18, 2014 at 10:00 am
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      @Amy
      “at any time”

      Not at any time. Under the right circumstances. The “time” is actually rare as fuck, because most guys don’t know how to create it. A chick who sees her man as higher value won’t cheat with a guy who’s lower value to her than him. There are plenty of times/situs where the girl won’t cheat.

      But if you can create the right circumstances, she will. You literally just said “college experimentation aside”. You did something slutty that you would tell us other girls won’t do or that you wouldn’t do now, except that in that moment you had the right circumstances (“this is college, no judgement!”) and have backwards rationalized it away as “it was just college experimentation lololol” chalking it under the category of “it doesn’t count”.

      Your problem is your girl logic tells you “well since I’m not currently presented with the same circumstances and I’m not in the same headspace I was at the time now, then it’s impossible and must be for other girls too because my solipsistic nature tells me that everyone feels like me”. That’s retarded and illogical. You’re just basing your conclusions on your girly emotions. Your logic is inconsistent and your hamster spins too fast to understand that.

      “Why this is hard for either of you to accept is beyond me.”

      Because your logic is stupid and inconsistent and contradicts what anyone can see when they go out and learn to hit on girls lol

      But keep at it I guess. I mean, your opinion as a woman on what women think/feel must carry more weight. I got knocked out by Mike Tyson once so let me teach you guys how to box instead of Mike, while that fish over there teaches you how fish think instead of the fisherman that’s catching them all. I’m really only replying because my name was in your comment.



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Amy
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I wonder why it’s dropped so much?

[CH: across-the-board secular decline in all crime categories. also, you’ll note that the decline appears to have stopped and maybe even begun reversing. Peter Turchin would have something to say about all this.]


  • Zombie Shane
    on June 18, 2014 at 7:52 am
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    Amy, June 17, 2014 at 2:24 pm: “college experimentation aside, I’m not bisexual”

    Amy, June 17, 2014 at 8:07 pm: “Pluviophile (and the various troll aliases he uses) has developed an unhealthy obsession with my sex life”

    Amy, look, I know you’re a chick, and the concept of intellectual consistency is pretty much utterly foreign to your sex, but dadgummit, can you not see the mixed messages which you are sending here?

    Either be a prude.

    Or be a slut.

    But don’t try simultaneously to have it both ways.


    • YaReally
      on June 18, 2014 at 10:00 am
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      @Amy
      “at any time”

      Not at any time. Under the right circumstances. The “time” is actually rare as fuck, because most guys don’t know how to create it. A chick who sees her man as higher value won’t cheat with a guy who’s lower value to her than him. There are plenty of times/situs where the girl won’t cheat.

      But if you can create the right circumstances, she will. You literally just said “college experimentation aside”. You did something slutty that you would tell us other girls won’t do or that you wouldn’t do now, except that in that moment you had the right circumstances (“this is college, no judgement!”) and have backwards rationalized it away as “it was just college experimentation lololol” chalking it under the category of “it doesn’t count”.

      Your problem is your girl logic tells you “well since I’m not currently presented with the same circumstances and I’m not in the same headspace I was at the time now, then it’s impossible and must be for other girls too because my solipsistic nature tells me that everyone feels like me”. That’s retarded and illogical. You’re just basing your conclusions on your girly emotions. Your logic is inconsistent and your hamster spins too fast to understand that.

      “Why this is hard for either of you to accept is beyond me.”

      Because your logic is stupid and inconsistent and contradicts what anyone can see when they go out and learn to hit on girls lol

      But keep at it I guess. I mean, your opinion as a woman on what women think/feel must carry more weight. I got knocked out by Mike Tyson once so let me teach you guys how to box instead of Mike, while that fish over there teaches you how fish think instead of the fisherman that’s catching them all. I’m really only replying because my name was in your comment.



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Update and Advice Needed

So the plates are spinning and there are some successes also.
My 30YO Indian is going good meeting up tomorrow. She is really into me. So gaming her so far is really working well. She is always complementing me sending me dirty pics and very responsive.

I met a 37YO MILF last week and we talked and bantered online and then met last Thursday. I wanted to get more investment from her so I had her meet me for lunch but in my city which is about a 2 hour drive from her house. She agreed no problem. Told her to wear heals and a skirt and she did. Looked pretty good in person I give her about a 7. She was kind of full of herself but I got her talking and expressing herself and it worked well. She was giving me quite a bit of IOI and emotional investment also. We went from lunch to a bar close by and had cocktails. At this point I started making out with her and it got all heated really quickly. Tried to get her to move to hotel and she almost agreed but then changed her mind. At least she was not giving me the princess bullshit like the other one. She has a nice body and is very sexual. We then moved to another bar and had another drink and made out some more. By this time it was getting really heated. But then she had to go. It was a really good interaction. Question I guess I am escalating too quickly with these women because I am getting a lot of ASD what should I do about this? And I do not believe this one has the princess complex. We agreed to meeting this Monday and spend extended time together. Then we have been bantering via text since Thursday with her initiating most texts and I have been keeping it non sexual via lessons learned from yareally on ASD. However she flaked on me today not at the last minute here is her text “I am going to have to ask for a raincheck for tonight handsome”. I have not responded yet. I am going to respond with “lol no problem we can get together some other time” I predict this is ASD and I will give her a couple of days of radio silence and then start convo back up again. Then when I am in town next week I will contact her about meeting up. What do you guys think of this strategy? I think I may have given her too much attention also.

I met this 26YO Hottie. She is really gorgeous, her profile was different and talked all about how sweet and sincere she is. I have to give this chick a 9 so far. But she has been really non responsive so far. Her reply to my note online was to send me just her email address and nothing else. Then when I emailed her a basic note. She did not say anything except replied back asking for pics. Then I sent her back a note saying “I will be happy to send you some pics and you can send me some but lets get to know one another first.” She then responed back with her phone number I texted her and she replied back with one word answers and did not really give me anything. Then she quit replying and so I quit. This morning I reengaged and she asked for pics. I sent them tried to banter again and nothing but she did say I was very handsome. But that was about the extent of her responsiveness. I asked for pics and she sent me some beautiful pics. She is really gorgeous and I can see that she is very used to guys kissing her ass. Not sure what to do with this? How do I get her to engage? Do I just ignore her now? It has been about four hours. My plan is that she is probably a lost cause that is so narcissistic that I will not be able to work with her so I am planning on instructing her on how to communicate with me. Is this correct? I know women need direction and limits and just agreeing with her and complementing her pics is not going to get me anywhere. But I really do not have any investment from her so it has a low chance of working. What do you guys think? Is there another approach I should take? By the way she just now favorite listed me on the web site. But has not reengaged in texting?

Also do you remember the 25YO Fling I had that emailed me back and we texted back and forth a couple of times she sent me some pics and then it kind of died there? I give her about a 7.5. Well she sent me an email today. Here is what it said. “Hope you had a fabulous Father’s Day weekend. Haven’t talked with you in a while and thought I would stop in and say hey. Hope things are well with you. Have an awesome week !!!”Not really sure what to do about this one. She only knows me as my beta self about six months ago and we fucked for a little while and then she vanished. How do I handle this one? Should I ignore her, wait to reply? Help me out brothers.


  • Reco
    on June 16, 2014 at 2:39 pm
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    Update to update.

    30YO Indian girl we are scheduled to meet tomorrow. And she just texted me asking me to borrow some money. Really took me by surprise. This chick has been really cool and not asked for anything. I can easily loan her the money. But do not want to fuck up our situ. I am not really worried about her not paying me back. I am thinking of talking to her and saying just this once but never again. Or just loaning the money and not being a dick about it. What do you guys think?

    37 YO MILF, I sent her the text string below and her reply:

    Me: Lol sure…maybe some other time 3:17 PM
    Her: I’m sorry babe. Just had a supplier meeting that I can’t get out of. On my way to ——- :-( want to try later this week? 3:38 PM

    I think she is full of shit. I have not replied since then. Stay silent? Reschedule right away? Thinking maybe wait two days and then reschedule.


    • YaReally
      on June 16, 2014 at 9:21 pm
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      @reco
      “I can easily loan her the money.”

      No. Don’t. She’s setting you up for a long-term trap. I would actually stop seeing her entirely…Native chicks who are that aggressive tend to be trouble. Like poke holes in the condoms trouble. The money is just a start. Google how foreign bride scams work…only diff is she’s actually putting out, but she’s running the same script of dazzle you with her sexuality (even putting out) and then start digging for gold one little “crisis” at a time.

      Chick is trouble, be very careful with her. Don’t ever tell her anything about you that she could use to blackmail you.

      “Her: I’m sorry babe. Just had a supplier meeting that I can’t get out of. On my way to ——- :-( want to try later this week? 3:38 PM

      I think she is full of shit.”

      She’s not. What are the 3 ways of flaking? Total no-show with no txt (“I fell asleep sorry lol” style…this is the worst one, it means she’s not into you), in advance with no offer to reschedule (means you have some work to do), or in advance with an offer to reschedule (this means her excuse is legit, no punishment necessary).

      She’s offering to reschedule. Tell her “ya, let’s do thursday” or whatever works for you. Should be a done deal.

      too tired to write more right now but with the other girls you might not be getting them to chase you enough when you go for the pull…more rapport & push/pull, and more qualifying them (giving them easy qualifications to pass to impress you so they feel you like them for more than their tits) so that they’re as excited to go back to your place as you are VS you having to fully lead/trick them there.

      They should be thinking “I’ve earned this guy”, you know? Right now they’re thinking “I don’t know about this…….why does he even like me?”

      If you don’t think that’s the case then the other option is to back off harder when they don’t play along. ie – you make out and push for going back to your place, she hesitates, instead of plowing for it try backing off and going back to normal conversation do some rapport push/pull qualify her, remove your kino, have a drink or hit another venue, etc., then try again in 15-30 min.

      So you’re basically teaching her in little mini-lessons 1) you’re calibrated enough to tell when she’s uncomfortable and don’t mind backing off because you’re confident enough that you’ll still bang her so there’s no rush to you, 2) that if she doesn’t play along, you remove some of the sexy fun kino/kissing validation and 3) you’re interested in her for more than just that she has a pussy…like you make out and then she hesitates and you back off and talk about whatever and then ask her if she cooks and you tease her telling her pouring cereal doesn’t count and she tells you no she really loves cooking and you test/qualify her asking her what her fav thing to cook for a guy is, she says whatever, you say mmm that sounds good, next time we hang out you are going to cook that for me…now she thinks you’re hanging out again and she’s won you/earned you bla bla and now you can pull her in and kiss her…a bit more of that and you can try pulling her to bang again.



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So the plates are spinning and there are some successes also.
My 30YO Indian is going good meeting up tomorrow. She is really into me. So gaming her so far is really working well. She is always complementing me sending me dirty pics and very responsive.

I met a 37YO MILF last week and we talked and bantered online and then met last Thursday. I wanted to get more investment from her so I had her meet me for lunch but in my city which is about a 2 hour drive from her house. She agreed no problem. Told her to wear heals and a skirt and she did. Looked pretty good in person I give her about a 7. She was kind of full of herself but I got her talking and expressing herself and it worked well. She was giving me quite a bit of IOI and emotional investment also. We went from lunch to a bar close by and had cocktails. At this point I started making out with her and it got all heated really quickly. Tried to get her to move to hotel and she almost agreed but then changed her mind. At least she was not giving me the princess bullshit like the other one. She has a nice body and is very sexual. We then moved to another bar and had another drink and made out some more. By this time it was getting really heated. But then she had to go. It was a really good interaction. Question I guess I am escalating too quickly with these women because I am getting a lot of ASD what should I do about this? And I do not believe this one has the princess complex. We agreed to meeting this Monday and spend extended time together. Then we have been bantering via text since Thursday with her initiating most texts and I have been keeping it non sexual via lessons learned from yareally on ASD. However she flaked on me today not at the last minute here is her text “I am going to have to ask for a raincheck for tonight handsome”. I have not responded yet. I am going to respond with “lol no problem we can get together some other time” I predict this is ASD and I will give her a couple of days of radio silence and then start convo back up again. Then when I am in town next week I will contact her about meeting up. What do you guys think of this strategy? I think I may have given her too much attention also.

I met this 26YO Hottie. She is really gorgeous, her profile was different and talked all about how sweet and sincere she is. I have to give this chick a 9 so far. But she has been really non responsive so far. Her reply to my note online was to send me just her email address and nothing else. Then when I emailed her a basic note. She did not say anything except replied back asking for pics. Then I sent her back a note saying “I will be happy to send you some pics and you can send me some but lets get to know one another first.” She then responed back with her phone number I texted her and she replied back with one word answers and did not really give me anything. Then she quit replying and so I quit. This morning I reengaged and she asked for pics. I sent them tried to banter again and nothing but she did say I was very handsome. But that was about the extent of her responsiveness. I asked for pics and she sent me some beautiful pics. She is really gorgeous and I can see that she is very used to guys kissing her ass. Not sure what to do with this? How do I get her to engage? Do I just ignore her now? It has been about four hours. My plan is that she is probably a lost cause that is so narcissistic that I will not be able to work with her so I am planning on instructing her on how to communicate with me. Is this correct? I know women need direction and limits and just agreeing with her and complementing her pics is not going to get me anywhere. But I really do not have any investment from her so it has a low chance of working. What do you guys think? Is there another approach I should take? By the way she just now favorite listed me on the web site. But has not reengaged in texting?

Also do you remember the 25YO Fling I had that emailed me back and we texted back and forth a couple of times she sent me some pics and then it kind of died there? I give her about a 7.5. Well she sent me an email today. Here is what it said. “Hope you had a fabulous Father’s Day weekend. Haven’t talked with you in a while and thought I would stop in and say hey. Hope things are well with you. Have an awesome week !!!”Not really sure what to do about this one. She only knows me as my beta self about six months ago and we fucked for a little while and then she vanished. How do I handle this one? Should I ignore her, wait to reply? Help me out brothers.


  • Reco
    on June 16, 2014 at 2:39 pm
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    Update to update.

    30YO Indian girl we are scheduled to meet tomorrow. And she just texted me asking me to borrow some money. Really took me by surprise. This chick has been really cool and not asked for anything. I can easily loan her the money. But do not want to fuck up our situ. I am not really worried about her not paying me back. I am thinking of talking to her and saying just this once but never again. Or just loaning the money and not being a dick about it. What do you guys think?

    37 YO MILF, I sent her the text string below and her reply:

    Me: Lol sure…maybe some other time 3:17 PM
    Her: I’m sorry babe. Just had a supplier meeting that I can’t get out of. On my way to ——- :-( want to try later this week? 3:38 PM

    I think she is full of shit. I have not replied since then. Stay silent? Reschedule right away? Thinking maybe wait two days and then reschedule.


    • YaReally
      on June 16, 2014 at 9:21 pm
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      @reco
      “I can easily loan her the money.”

      No. Don’t. She’s setting you up for a long-term trap. I would actually stop seeing her entirely…Native chicks who are that aggressive tend to be trouble. Like poke holes in the condoms trouble. The money is just a start. Google how foreign bride scams work…only diff is she’s actually putting out, but she’s running the same script of dazzle you with her sexuality (even putting out) and then start digging for gold one little “crisis” at a time.

      Chick is trouble, be very careful with her. Don’t ever tell her anything about you that she could use to blackmail you.

      “Her: I’m sorry babe. Just had a supplier meeting that I can’t get out of. On my way to ——- :-( want to try later this week? 3:38 PM

      I think she is full of shit.”

      She’s not. What are the 3 ways of flaking? Total no-show with no txt (“I fell asleep sorry lol” style…this is the worst one, it means she’s not into you), in advance with no offer to reschedule (means you have some work to do), or in advance with an offer to reschedule (this means her excuse is legit, no punishment necessary).

      She’s offering to reschedule. Tell her “ya, let’s do thursday” or whatever works for you. Should be a done deal.

      too tired to write more right now but with the other girls you might not be getting them to chase you enough when you go for the pull…more rapport & push/pull, and more qualifying them (giving them easy qualifications to pass to impress you so they feel you like them for more than their tits) so that they’re as excited to go back to your place as you are VS you having to fully lead/trick them there.

      They should be thinking “I’ve earned this guy”, you know? Right now they’re thinking “I don’t know about this…….why does he even like me?”

      If you don’t think that’s the case then the other option is to back off harder when they don’t play along. ie – you make out and push for going back to your place, she hesitates, instead of plowing for it try backing off and going back to normal conversation do some rapport push/pull qualify her, remove your kino, have a drink or hit another venue, etc., then try again in 15-30 min.

      So you’re basically teaching her in little mini-lessons 1) you’re calibrated enough to tell when she’s uncomfortable and don’t mind backing off because you’re confident enough that you’ll still bang her so there’s no rush to you, 2) that if she doesn’t play along, you remove some of the sexy fun kino/kissing validation and 3) you’re interested in her for more than just that she has a pussy…like you make out and then she hesitates and you back off and talk about whatever and then ask her if she cooks and you tease her telling her pouring cereal doesn’t count and she tells you no she really loves cooking and you test/qualify her asking her what her fav thing to cook for a guy is, she says whatever, you say mmm that sounds good, next time we hang out you are going to cook that for me…now she thinks you’re hanging out again and she’s won you/earned you bla bla and now you can pull her in and kiss her…a bit more of that and you can try pulling her to bang again.



Thought Experiment

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Zombie Shane
on June 14, 2014 at 11:38 am
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GIVE YOUR WOMAN ORGASMS OR ELSE YaReally WILL:

4 Lies the Church Taught Me About Sex
Girls don’t care about sex and three other lies I’ve had to unlearn.
http://www.relevantmagazine.com/life/relationships/4-lies-church-taught-me-about-sex

In that article, a virgin bride Evangelical girl is complaining that her Evangelical hubby just ain’t getting it done downstairs.

BTW, in real life, I know a twenty-something chick who went out on a date recently with an Evangelical boy, and he was so sexually inexperienced that it completely freaked her out and she never dated him again.


  • YaReally
    on June 14, 2014 at 5:49 pm
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    How to bang a girl who’s only had one sexual partner who’s been dragged out to the bar for a Girls’ Night Out:

    “Oh wow you’ve only been with one guy? That’s really impressive, most girls have to sleep with a few guys before they figure out what they really like in bed. You’re so lucky that the first guy you slept with can get you off in bed, the first partner I had sex with was terrible lol but I couldn’t tell because I didn’t have any frame of reference for what good sex was…everyone was like “wow sex is amazing” and I was like “uhh it’s okay I guess” lol

    Oh? You’ve never really gotten off with him? Well I’m sure he’s trying, I mean you guys have role played right? No? Well he lets you have toys doesn’t he? Oh he’s jealous of those? Huh…

    Well he’s probably trying. You’re probably HIS first too, right? So he doesn’t–oh what? You’re NOT his first? Oh that’s weird…are you ever intimidated that he has more sexual experience than you? Well he probably doesn’t compare you to other girls he’s had sex with, if he’s talking about marriage already then you don’t need to try other guys or experiment because he’s already decided for you that you guys have good sex, so really that saves you a lot of trouble ’cause it can be hard to find someone who really turns you on, and that you’re attracted to, and that you have this amazing sexual chemistry with when you’re around them…

    I don’t know, I mean personally I think we should all explore our sexual sides before we commit to someone so that we know that person is the right one for us. I don’t mean you and I, I’m totally not the kind of guy you’d want to sleep with…you saw those other girls that I was kissing, I’m not the commitment type and you’d never hear from me again after tonight…even your friends wouldn’t know about us playing around, you wouldn’t want to be stuck with a big secret like that.”

    It’s even easier if her girlfriends are party girls because for them to act slutty they need HER to slut it up so they don’t feel judged…like how fat chicks will try to get their skinny friend to fatten up so they can feel okay about themselves. So her friends will HELP you fuck her telling her she needs to try another guy before she settles down and don’t you want to see more than one cock aren’t you curious blah blah because if she fucks some random dude then she’s no longer pristine and perfect and they don’t feel like she can judge their hooking up behavior.

    I mean fuck, I didn’t even click your link until just now to skim it and literally the first paragraph is basically her brain dump of everything my routine up there pokes at:

    “As someone who waited until I was married to have sex, I was assured that I would be guaranteed an easy and rewarding sex life. When reality turned out to be different, I was disappointed and disillusioned. Only through gradual conversations with other married friends did I realize I wasn’t alone.

    I started to wonder if maybe the expectations themselves were wrong. Maybe what I’d been told or inferred about post-marital sex simply wasn’t true.”

    lol Imagine that girl gets dragged to a bar for a birthday or some shit with her girlfriends, she’s had a drink or two and danced and she’s in a good state having fun and there’s sex in the air all around her because of the environment. And then a guy like me comes along, after she wrote this blog article that says this first paragraph, and I start going into the shit I wrote above, hitting every damn chord in her mind.

    Shit, that whole article is gold. I would just quote parts of that directly to a “Good Girl” lol That’s hilarious.

    Anyway, ya, get your girl off. Give her good sex. It’s not hard, I’m not some high-energy crazy sex-machine that can rail away for hours. Watch Squirting 101, read Sex God Method, read My Secret Garden and its’ sequel, read some chick erotica like 50 Shades of Grey, watch some lesbian porn, watch some fucked up hardcore domination porn…You should be making her orgasm like 3-6 times when you hook up (unless she’s the type where her body gets too sensitive to touch after she cums, and even then you can chill and cuddle and have her get you off for a while and then probably give her a 2nd orgasm once her body settles a bit).

    I’ve had girls give their girlfriends’ my number or bring them out to party just because they’re like “you need to have sex with this guy”. A fuckbuddy from back home txted me a few weeks ago that her friend is passing thru my city and she told her about our bedroom shit and she wants to hook up…she doesn’t even KNOW me, but it’s because I don’t half-ass the bedroom shit and I don’t subscribe to the whole retarded “she’ll be happy if I’m happy, who cares if she gets off” notion that some guys have (especially in the Manosphere, where it’s “cool” to be super aloof and not give a shit about girls or actively hate them instead of WANTING to give them some pleasure).

    The biggest key to being good in bed is actually LIKING women lol



Thought Experiment

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Zombie Shane
on June 14, 2014 at 11:38 am
Original Link

GIVE YOUR WOMAN ORGASMS OR ELSE YaReally WILL:

4 Lies the Church Taught Me About Sex
Girls don’t care about sex and three other lies I’ve had to unlearn.

http://www.relevantmagazine.com/life/relationships/4-lies-church-taught-me-about-sex

In that article, a virgin bride Evangelical girl is complaining that her Evangelical hubby just ain’t getting it done downstairs.

BTW, in real life, I know a twenty-something chick who went out on a date recently with an Evangelical boy, and he was so sexually inexperienced that it completely freaked her out and she never dated him again.


  • YaReally
    on June 14, 2014 at 5:49 pm
    Original Link

    How to bang a girl who’s only had one sexual partner who’s been dragged out to the bar for a Girls’ Night Out:

    “Oh wow you’ve only been with one guy? That’s really impressive, most girls have to sleep with a few guys before they figure out what they really like in bed. You’re so lucky that the first guy you slept with can get you off in bed, the first partner I had sex with was terrible lol but I couldn’t tell because I didn’t have any frame of reference for what good sex was…everyone was like “wow sex is amazing” and I was like “uhh it’s okay I guess” lol

    Oh? You’ve never really gotten off with him? Well I’m sure he’s trying, I mean you guys have role played right? No? Well he lets you have toys doesn’t he? Oh he’s jealous of those? Huh…

    Well he’s probably trying. You’re probably HIS first too, right? So he doesn’t–oh what? You’re NOT his first? Oh that’s weird…are you ever intimidated that he has more sexual experience than you? Well he probably doesn’t compare you to other girls he’s had sex with, if he’s talking about marriage already then you don’t need to try other guys or experiment because he’s already decided for you that you guys have good sex, so really that saves you a lot of trouble ’cause it can be hard to find someone who really turns you on, and that you’re attracted to, and that you have this amazing sexual chemistry with when you’re around them…

    I don’t know, I mean personally I think we should all explore our sexual sides before we commit to someone so that we know that person is the right one for us. I don’t mean you and I, I’m totally not the kind of guy you’d want to sleep with…you saw those other girls that I was kissing, I’m not the commitment type and you’d never hear from me again after tonight…even your friends wouldn’t know about us playing around, you wouldn’t want to be stuck with a big secret like that.”

    It’s even easier if her girlfriends are party girls because for them to act slutty they need HER to slut it up so they don’t feel judged…like how fat chicks will try to get their skinny friend to fatten up so they can feel okay about themselves. So her friends will HELP you fuck her telling her she needs to try another guy before she settles down and don’t you want to see more than one cock aren’t you curious blah blah because if she fucks some random dude then she’s no longer pristine and perfect and they don’t feel like she can judge their hooking up behavior.

    I mean fuck, I didn’t even click your link until just now to skim it and literally the first paragraph is basically her brain dump of everything my routine up there pokes at:

    “As someone who waited until I was married to have sex, I was assured that I would be guaranteed an easy and rewarding sex life. When reality turned out to be different, I was disappointed and disillusioned. Only through gradual conversations with other married friends did I realize I wasn’t alone.

    I started to wonder if maybe the expectations themselves were wrong. Maybe what I’d been told or inferred about post-marital sex simply wasn’t true.”

    lol Imagine that girl gets dragged to a bar for a birthday or some shit with her girlfriends, she’s had a drink or two and danced and she’s in a good state having fun and there’s sex in the air all around her because of the environment. And then a guy like me comes along, after she wrote this blog article that says this first paragraph, and I start going into the shit I wrote above, hitting every damn chord in her mind.

    Shit, that whole article is gold. I would just quote parts of that directly to a “Good Girl” lol That’s hilarious.

    Anyway, ya, get your girl off. Give her good sex. It’s not hard, I’m not some high-energy crazy sex-machine that can rail away for hours. Watch Squirting 101, read Sex God Method, read My Secret Garden and its’ sequel, read some chick erotica like 50 Shades of Grey, watch some lesbian porn, watch some fucked up hardcore domination porn…You should be making her orgasm like 3-6 times when you hook up (unless she’s the type where her body gets too sensitive to touch after she cums, and even then you can chill and cuddle and have her get you off for a while and then probably give her a 2nd orgasm once her body settles a bit).

    I’ve had girls give their girlfriends’ my number or bring them out to party just because they’re like “you need to have sex with this guy”. A fuckbuddy from back home txted me a few weeks ago that her friend is passing thru my city and she told her about our bedroom shit and she wants to hook up…she doesn’t even KNOW me, but it’s because I don’t half-ass the bedroom shit and I don’t subscribe to the whole retarded “she’ll be happy if I’m happy, who cares if she gets off” notion that some guys have (especially in the Manosphere, where it’s “cool” to be super aloof and not give a shit about girls or actively hate them instead of WANTING to give them some pleasure).

    The biggest key to being good in bed is actually LIKING women lol



The Difference Between Men And Women In Two Charts

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Reco
on June 13, 2014 at 1:18 pm
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I can tell you from my older man experience that getting women 20 years younger than myself is not that much of a problem. 25 Years younger is definitely doable. 30 Years younger is that is more of a problem. At least at my level of skill so far. I have been told many times that I am very handsome, good looking, good looking etc. But I take all of that with a grain of salt. I am probably good looking but I am no George Clooney. But women s perspective on good looks is so incredibly subjective.

If a woman is attracted to you she will think you are good looking. In fact she will not only think you are good looking. She will start to tell you all of these amazing things about your looks that are off the charts attractive when in reality they are not. I am with a 30 YO HB8 that is smoking and looks 25 and I am almost embarrassed at all of the nice things she says about my looks. This is almost a reversal of cause and effect. If a man sees a good looking woman she is good looking no matter what comes out of her mouth and how much the guy hates her guts she is still good looking. If a woman sees a man she many times does not know how good looking the man is until she sees him, act, react to her shit tests, charm, experience, demeanor, and game. If this goes well then she will start to see him as good looking. And frankly age has a little to do with that at this point.

But when you get to these smoking hot 20 somethings. They are inundated with options and alpha male types and really good looking guys. So it is almost impossible to break through that fog of options. But if you do. And your game is really tight. Then you can get to her real core, and she will start to see the attractiveness of an older man. And then all bets are off. Still working on that by the way.


  • YaReally
    on June 13, 2014 at 3:46 pm
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    “She will start to tell you all of these amazing things about your looks that are off the charts attractive when in reality they are not.”

    Most of the girls I get with have normally dated big tall roided up jacked rich dudes. But then when we’ve fucked a couple times they’ll tell me I’m way hotter and sexier and bla bla when objectively I’m just an average dude with a bit of a beer gut that if they looked at me and a bunch of their usual type in a lineup of photos, they would never ever pick me over the other guys.

    But the reason they pick those guys is that they assume/hope that because they’re jacked tall rich etc. they’ll be dominant assertive confident “call them out when they’re being a bitch” men, based on their external attributes of being big and jacked. The same way we look at a girl in a tight mini-dress and push-up bra and slutty heels and think “that girl is probably fun to fuck”…she might be an awkward virgin who hates sex, just like the jacked guy might be an insecure pussy who let’s the girl walk all over him, but we all go by that first indicator because it’s the fastest/easiest way to play the odds.

    So then I come along and I have to pass a fuckton of shit-tests to get in their pants because externally I’m not normally their type at all, but I demonstrate dominance, assertiveness, confidence, pass their shit-tests with flying colors, push-pull, give them emotional spikes, etc. and basically do all the stuff that they hoped the other guys’ external attributes would mean he demonstrates.

    So I’m providing the part they’re looking for that those guys often don’t have (sure, that CEO is confident in his boardroom but a pretty girl says “aren’t you going to buy me a drink?” and he falls over himself to pull out his wallet, etc.) and they end up into me when their past dating history involves way better looking or better-off guys than me.

    It’s kind of like if you were starving and dying for food, you would probably go to a bakery to find food before you’d go to like, a car dealership. But then you’re inside the bakery and they don’t have any food except for a few measly unsatisfying disappointing scraps…enough to make do if you HAD to, but you’re not really satisfied. Then you get dragged into the car dealership still starving and it’s full of delicious food, an entire banquet, and you’re like “holy shit!! Really??” and gobble it all down and ditch the bakeries to keep coming back to that car dealership.

    So ultimately I AM more attractive to them than the other guys who have way better externals, but at first glance it doesn’t make any fucking sense, especially following society’s Disney-mindset value system of what’s “attractive” to women.

    But when you understand the underlying dynamics, it makes perfect sense…and is something you can capitalize on if you don’t have those external attributes.

    If I had those external attributes PLUS these internals? Shit, I could probably take over the world lol But generally guys who spend all their time building up their externals end up with weak internals and guys who spend all their time building up their internals end up with weak externals, because there’s only so much time in the day and building internals or externals requires a huge time/energy investment and dedication, to hit that top 20%.

    One reason I encourage guys to focus on their internals is that I can never grow another foot of height and I’ll probably never bulk up to Arnold levels of jacked even with years of protein shakes and gym hours, and I’m probably not going to start a Fortune 500 company anytime soon because I literally probably don’t have the skills to accomplish that let alone the drive etc. like other guys have.

    …buuut, ANY guy can develop his internals to unlimited levels because it’s literally just mental shifts and rewiring your mindsets. If you could remove all your social conditioning habits that have been built up since you were a baby, you could literally snap your fingers and just instantly BE a guy who exudes insane confidence that attracts the super hot girls. But we’re built with a ton of bad wiring from society and it takes a lot of work to fix that. Once you get going though, there’s really no end to it or limit since it’s all internal. So in the long-run it’s a better bang for the average guy’s buck.



The Difference Between Men And Women In Two Charts

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Reco
on June 13, 2014 at 1:18 pm
Original Link

I can tell you from my older man experience that getting women 20 years younger than myself is not that much of a problem. 25 Years younger is definitely doable. 30 Years younger is that is more of a problem. At least at my level of skill so far. I have been told many times that I am very handsome, good looking, good looking etc. But I take all of that with a grain of salt. I am probably good looking but I am no George Clooney. But women s perspective on good looks is so incredibly subjective.

If a woman is attracted to you she will think you are good looking. In fact she will not only think you are good looking. She will start to tell you all of these amazing things about your looks that are off the charts attractive when in reality they are not. I am with a 30 YO HB8 that is smoking and looks 25 and I am almost embarrassed at all of the nice things she says about my looks. This is almost a reversal of cause and effect. If a man sees a good looking woman she is good looking no matter what comes out of her mouth and how much the guy hates her guts she is still good looking. If a woman sees a man she many times does not know how good looking the man is until she sees him, act, react to her shit tests, charm, experience, demeanor, and game. If this goes well then she will start to see him as good looking. And frankly age has a little to do with that at this point.

But when you get to these smoking hot 20 somethings. They are inundated with options and alpha male types and really good looking guys. So it is almost impossible to break through that fog of options. But if you do. And your game is really tight. Then you can get to her real core, and she will start to see the attractiveness of an older man. And then all bets are off. Still working on that by the way.


  • YaReally
    on June 13, 2014 at 3:46 pm
    Original Link

    “She will start to tell you all of these amazing things about your looks that are off the charts attractive when in reality they are not.”

    Most of the girls I get with have normally dated big tall roided up jacked rich dudes. But then when we’ve fucked a couple times they’ll tell me I’m way hotter and sexier and bla bla when objectively I’m just an average dude with a bit of a beer gut that if they looked at me and a bunch of their usual type in a lineup of photos, they would never ever pick me over the other guys.

    But the reason they pick those guys is that they assume/hope that because they’re jacked tall rich etc. they’ll be dominant assertive confident “call them out when they’re being a bitch” men, based on their external attributes of being big and jacked. The same way we look at a girl in a tight mini-dress and push-up bra and slutty heels and think “that girl is probably fun to fuck”…she might be an awkward virgin who hates sex, just like the jacked guy might be an insecure pussy who let’s the girl walk all over him, but we all go by that first indicator because it’s the fastest/easiest way to play the odds.

    So then I come along and I have to pass a fuckton of shit-tests to get in their pants because externally I’m not normally their type at all, but I demonstrate dominance, assertiveness, confidence, pass their shit-tests with flying colors, push-pull, give them emotional spikes, etc. and basically do all the stuff that they hoped the other guys’ external attributes would mean he demonstrates.

    So I’m providing the part they’re looking for that those guys often don’t have (sure, that CEO is confident in his boardroom but a pretty girl says “aren’t you going to buy me a drink?” and he falls over himself to pull out his wallet, etc.) and they end up into me when their past dating history involves way better looking or better-off guys than me.

    It’s kind of like if you were starving and dying for food, you would probably go to a bakery to find food before you’d go to like, a car dealership. But then you’re inside the bakery and they don’t have any food except for a few measly unsatisfying disappointing scraps…enough to make do if you HAD to, but you’re not really satisfied. Then you get dragged into the car dealership still starving and it’s full of delicious food, an entire banquet, and you’re like “holy shit!! Really??” and gobble it all down and ditch the bakeries to keep coming back to that car dealership.

    So ultimately I AM more attractive to them than the other guys who have way better externals, but at first glance it doesn’t make any fucking sense, especially following society’s Disney-mindset value system of what’s “attractive” to women.

    But when you understand the underlying dynamics, it makes perfect sense…and is something you can capitalize on if you don’t have those external attributes.

    If I had those external attributes PLUS these internals? Shit, I could probably take over the world lol But generally guys who spend all their time building up their externals end up with weak internals and guys who spend all their time building up their internals end up with weak externals, because there’s only so much time in the day and building internals or externals requires a huge time/energy investment and dedication, to hit that top 20%.

    One reason I encourage guys to focus on their internals is that I can never grow another foot of height and I’ll probably never bulk up to Arnold levels of jacked even with years of protein shakes and gym hours, and I’m probably not going to start a Fortune 500 company anytime soon because I literally probably don’t have the skills to accomplish that let alone the drive etc. like other guys have.

    …buuut, ANY guy can develop his internals to unlimited levels because it’s literally just mental shifts and rewiring your mindsets. If you could remove all your social conditioning habits that have been built up since you were a baby, you could literally snap your fingers and just instantly BE a guy who exudes insane confidence that attracts the super hot girls. But we’re built with a ton of bad wiring from society and it takes a lot of work to fix that. Once you get going though, there’s really no end to it or limit since it’s all internal. So in the long-run it’s a better bang for the average guy’s buck.



Your Mission

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YaReally
on June 12, 2014 at 1:15 pm
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Relevant classic, Tyler’s 25 points list of little fixes you can do right now to improve your alpha/attractive vibe:

http://www.rsdnation.com/node/60062



Your Mission

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YaReally
on June 12, 2014 at 1:15 pm
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Relevant classic, Tyler’s 25 points list of little fixes you can do right now to improve your alpha/attractive vibe:

http://www.rsdnation.com/node/60062



Your Mission

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YaReally
on June 12, 2014 at 1:49 pm
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Twinkle in the eye? Amused smile? Walking crotch-first?

Behold…the ULTIMATE alpha male:

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s313/jackcopley/BV35fc.png

Look at the way he’s aloofly ignoring the girls while they’re caught in his jealousy plotline, fighting over who gets him.

It all makes so much sense now!


  • YaReally
    on June 12, 2014 at 2:40 pm
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    lol I’m just fucking around but when you think about it Archie comics are (or were, I don’t read them anymore but I read the shit out of them as a kid lol) promoting spinning plates, jealousy plotlines, social proof, non-monogamy, MGTOW (Jughead), AMOG battles (Reggie), and showing a lot of Red Pill theory in how Veronica treated Archie (Veronica being turned off by his supplication and using his resources with no remorse when he’d pay for dates and she’d go off with another guy, Betty chasing him when he ignores her, girls chasing Jughead purely because he’s aloof and not interested in girls).

    I mean, how much Red Pill Game PUA wisdom is captured in this classic image alone:

    http://www.thestar.com/content/dam/thestar/news/world/2009/05/28/gulp_after_7_decades_archie_picks_veronica/archie_betty_andveronica.jpeg.size.xxlarge.letterbox.jpeg

    Betty’s looking at Archie, chasing the man she can’t have who acts aloof and uninterested in her, while he simultaneously creates a jealously plotline while showing the consequences of having one-itis for the girl he puts on a pedestal who ignores him because he’s wrapped around her little finger.

    Shouldn’t Feminists have jumped on this shit and demanded Archie declare Betty & Veronica unattractive and then marry Ethel? How can Feminists allow Archie to teach boys that it’s okay to date more than one woman and not to commit to them and chase hot girls instead of fat ugly ones?? Archie is corrupting men! Misogyny!!!

    Fuck Mystery Method and RSD, it’s time to dig out my old Archie comics, the missing key to game!! lol



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YaReally
on June 12, 2014 at 1:49 pm
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Twinkle in the eye? Amused smile? Walking crotch-first?

Behold…the ULTIMATE alpha male:

Look at the way he’s aloofly ignoring the girls while they’re caught in his jealousy plotline, fighting over who gets him.

It all makes so much sense now!


  • YaReally
    on June 12, 2014 at 2:40 pm
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    lol I’m just fucking around but when you think about it Archie comics are (or were, I don’t read them anymore but I read the shit out of them as a kid lol) promoting spinning plates, jealousy plotlines, social proof, non-monogamy, MGTOW (Jughead), AMOG battles (Reggie), and showing a lot of Red Pill theory in how Veronica treated Archie (Veronica being turned off by his supplication and using his resources with no remorse when he’d pay for dates and she’d go off with another guy, Betty chasing him when he ignores her, girls chasing Jughead purely because he’s aloof and not interested in girls).

    I mean, how much Red Pill Game PUA wisdom is captured in this classic image alone:

    Betty’s looking at Archie, chasing the man she can’t have who acts aloof and uninterested in her, while he simultaneously creates a jealously plotline while showing the consequences of having one-itis for the girl he puts on a pedestal who ignores him because he’s wrapped around her little finger.

    Shouldn’t Feminists have jumped on this shit and demanded Archie declare Betty & Veronica unattractive and then marry Ethel? How can Feminists allow Archie to teach boys that it’s okay to date more than one woman and not to commit to them and chase hot girls instead of fat ugly ones?? Archie is corrupting men! Misogyny!!!

    Fuck Mystery Method and RSD, it’s time to dig out my old Archie comics, the missing key to game!! lol



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Troubadour
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I have been trying to figure out the “lead with your cock” thing for awhile, just for fun, and I don’t feel like I’m getting anywhere with that concept. When I try to lead with my cock, I have a strange gait that doesn’t feel or look right, and I’ve decided to drop that idea.

Had a girl comment on the way I walk with swagger the other day though, so I’m not going to over think this. A lot of random girls from my past have commented that I “look so confident” now. A girl you had a thing for and never told about it six years ago seems like somebody you could game today, if you were casual work pals and not really deeply in the friend zone with her.

I have so much trouble with the friend zone with that one girl, because I never got it into the friend zone before, incidentally. If somebody knows enough shit to obliterate your reputation and get you fired, and cheers for your team, that’s a real friend who happens to have a vagina, but this is the friend zone. Yup. Stalemate.


  • YaReally
    on June 12, 2014 at 2:48 pm
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    “I have been trying to figure out the “lead with your cock” thing”



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Troubadour
on June 12, 2014 at 2:31 pm
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I have been trying to figure out the “lead with your cock” thing for awhile, just for fun, and I don’t feel like I’m getting anywhere with that concept. When I try to lead with my cock, I have a strange gait that doesn’t feel or look right, and I’ve decided to drop that idea.

Had a girl comment on the way I walk with swagger the other day though, so I’m not going to over think this. A lot of random girls from my past have commented that I “look so confident” now. A girl you had a thing for and never told about it six years ago seems like somebody you could game today, if you were casual work pals and not really deeply in the friend zone with her.

I have so much trouble with the friend zone with that one girl, because I never got it into the friend zone before, incidentally. If somebody knows enough shit to obliterate your reputation and get you fired, and cheers for your team, that’s a real friend who happens to have a vagina, but this is the friend zone. Yup. Stalemate.


  • YaReally
    on June 12, 2014 at 2:48 pm
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    “I have been trying to figure out the “lead with your cock” thing”



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Culum Struan
on June 13, 2014 at 5:29 am
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I think this was genuinely one of those “lost cause/bad luck” moments but I’d be interested to see if YaReally or anyone else thinks I could have done anything to salvage it from this FR.

Met a 24 yr HB8 from online dating – Genuinely attractive, great figure, good sense of humour.

But also a single mother, with a really messed up childhood – as in, parental abuse, lived homeless on the streets for a couple of years in early teens etc. Also claimed to have acted in the “adult industry” but no proof. She’s cleaned up and is pretty stable now though.

Anyway, the date went really well – the vibe was just “on” right from the start. Kissed her within 1 hour, full on makeout in the bar and groping her tits and ass in the bar within 2 hours.

She had logistical issues (the kid), or I’d have been trying to get her home and was anyway about to try for a blowjob in the toilet.

Then I made a casual comment about how when I was in college I’d briefly worked in the state social services/child protection department. She *absolutely* flipped out and went mental and was almost shouting about how those were the people who’d failed her and where were they when she was on the streets etc.

It really was like Jekyll & Hyde. I stayed calm and held my frame and told her that I was sorry that she’d been failed as a child but I hadn’t been responsible for that and I knew lots of people who worked very hard to improve the lives of kids, and I was proud of the work I’d done in my brief time there. No use – she was off and ranting – long past the point of rational thought. She started sobbing and accusing me of lying to her (because I hadn’t disclosed up front that I briefly worked there 10+ years ago!)

We went back and forth for 3-4 min with me holding my frame and repeating. Then I just said that if she felt so strongly about this, maybe she should leave and she agreed and waited a couple of mins to calm down from the crying and she left. And I finished my drink, chatted a bit to the waitress and left too..I figured there was no point contacting her again.

Anything I could have tried? Somehow tried to get off the topic and changed the vibe or something?


  • YaReally
    on June 13, 2014 at 3:53 pm
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    @Culum
    Crazy bitch. Run. No contact ever again, don’t even bother. You just stepped on a land-mine, total luck of the draw thing to hit a trigger like that. Everyone has that happen a few times. Nothing you can do and it’s way too much baggage on her end for you to work through it. Move on to the next girl so you don’t get your dick chopped off lol



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Culum Struan
on June 13, 2014 at 5:29 am
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I think this was genuinely one of those “lost cause/bad luck” moments but I’d be interested to see if YaReally or anyone else thinks I could have done anything to salvage it from this FR.

Met a 24 yr HB8 from online dating – Genuinely attractive, great figure, good sense of humour.

But also a single mother, with a really messed up childhood – as in, parental abuse, lived homeless on the streets for a couple of years in early teens etc. Also claimed to have acted in the “adult industry” but no proof. She’s cleaned up and is pretty stable now though.

Anyway, the date went really well – the vibe was just “on” right from the start. Kissed her within 1 hour, full on makeout in the bar and groping her tits and ass in the bar within 2 hours.

She had logistical issues (the kid), or I’d have been trying to get her home and was anyway about to try for a blowjob in the toilet.

Then I made a casual comment about how when I was in college I’d briefly worked in the state social services/child protection department. She *absolutely* flipped out and went mental and was almost shouting about how those were the people who’d failed her and where were they when she was on the streets etc.

It really was like Jekyll & Hyde. I stayed calm and held my frame and told her that I was sorry that she’d been failed as a child but I hadn’t been responsible for that and I knew lots of people who worked very hard to improve the lives of kids, and I was proud of the work I’d done in my brief time there. No use – she was off and ranting – long past the point of rational thought. She started sobbing and accusing me of lying to her (because I hadn’t disclosed up front that I briefly worked there 10+ years ago!)

We went back and forth for 3-4 min with me holding my frame and repeating. Then I just said that if she felt so strongly about this, maybe she should leave and she agreed and waited a couple of mins to calm down from the crying and she left. And I finished my drink, chatted a bit to the waitress and left too..I figured there was no point contacting her again.

Anything I could have tried? Somehow tried to get off the topic and changed the vibe or something?


  • YaReally
    on June 13, 2014 at 3:53 pm
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    @Culum
    Crazy bitch. Run. No contact ever again, don’t even bother. You just stepped on a land-mine, total luck of the draw thing to hit a trigger like that. Everyone has that happen a few times. Nothing you can do and it’s way too much baggage on her end for you to work through it. Move on to the next girl so you don’t get your dick chopped off lol



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This website is racist. If a white woman prefers the company of black men, then she should be congratulated and supported for her preference.

As a liberated white male, I think that white women and black men look great together. I hope that when my white daughter is old enough, she will prefer to date black men. I would like my grand children to be black.

One world, one race!


  • Pluviophile
    on June 11, 2014 at 3:45 pm
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    YaReally? Is that you?


    • YaReally
      on June 12, 2014 at 12:20 pm
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      lol no, but for the record I am totally cool with interracial dating/relationships. I’m personally not into black/brown chicks myself, but a few of my best wings have been brown/asian/black dudes banging white chicks.

      Also half-white/half-non-white people are usually hot as fuck too lol



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on June 11, 2014 at 3:33 pm
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This website is racist. If a white woman prefers the company of black men, then she should be congratulated and supported for her preference.

As a liberated white male, I think that white women and black men look great together. I hope that when my white daughter is old enough, she will prefer to date black men. I would like my grand children to be black.

One world, one race!


  • Pluviophile
    on June 11, 2014 at 3:45 pm
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    YaReally? Is that you?


    • YaReally
      on June 12, 2014 at 12:20 pm
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      lol no, but for the record I am totally cool with interracial dating/relationships. I’m personally not into black/brown chicks myself, but a few of my best wings have been brown/asian/black dudes banging white chicks.

      Also half-white/half-non-white people are usually hot as fuck too lol



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on June 6, 2014 at 3:51 pm
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This tweet is probably as much Dalrock as CH, but here goes :

“These two charts from OkCupid founder @christianrudder’s new book will disturb you deeply.”

Only if you don’t think realistically about the world, or don’t read these blogs.

Chart 1 – “women’s age vs the age of the men who look best to them”. Chart 2 – “men’s age vs the age of the women who look best to them”

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  • YaReally
    on June 7, 2014 at 6:35 am
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    So much lol at what those charts reveal and the mind-fuck they’ll do to Blue Pill people. Like you can spout all the propaganda you want but when you look at legit data, there’s the Red Pill SMV in action for everyone to see.

    I literally choked on my cereal laughing at the zone of greatness. C’mon 24yo dude, why aren’t you messaging a 40yo woman???? Didn’t you see the CougarLife video??? lol Even on the other end of things, a 34 man in his prime with an established life and everything messaging some 42yo cat lady so they can pop out babies with birth defects and shit that will take second place in her heart next to her cats?? lol

    In other news, this whole “men are all feminized pussy manginas” thing is working out GREAT for me. The main area I do my gaming in has an abundance of 18-25yos (university in this city) and they all LOVE hearing that I’m in my early 30s. I can’t even count the number of girls who’ve been like “no I LIKE older men, guys my age are lame and immature”. It’s so entertaining to me that I purposely bring up age in our conversations early on just to see how they’ll react. They don’t even FLINCH, no fucks given about me having a solid 10 years on some of them. Early 30s is the perfect age range to be banging 18-22yo’s, you’re the “older man” fantasy without being so old that you remind them too much of their Dad.

    I should note that when people guess my age they usually place me around 26. They’re mindblown when they here I’m 30+. Is it because I have fantastic glowing young skin and a baby face and 6-pack abs? No, hell I have a bit of a beard most of the time these days and a bit of a beer belly. Is it because I jump and dance around like a kid on a sugar-high high-fiving half the bar and yapping with girls about Miley Cyrus and their opinion on twerking? No, I’m pretty low-energy actually and I actively tell them “I don’t have a clue what you’re talking about, I’m too old lol” Is it because I’m all peacocked up with sparkly Affliction shirts and tattoos and shit? No, I literally just wear a plain t-shirt and jeans (that fit good and aren’t from 2005 lol)

    The reason they’re blown away by my actual age is because I don’t ACT like some old fuck who’s given up on life and feels “too old to be in this bar with these kids” dressed like a slob ungroomed and just looking like I’m uncomfortable with myself and the environment, like these dudes who are probably around my age:

    http://gallery.montrealvip.com/d/866-2/nightlife_in_montreal_9613.jpg
    http://gallery.montrealvip.com/d/8110-1/Nightlife_20.jpg

    Jesus, just Googling for those photos depressed me lol

    No girl wants to meet those guys. No girl sees that and is like “wow, I want in on that party of 30+ dudes, THEY’LL be exciting and cool mature men to live out my fantasy with” lol

    They wanna meet guys like this (both of these dudes are in their 50s in real life):

    http://www.iamnotastalker.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/ScreenShot7112.jpg

    And when I say I’m “low-energy”, that’s not entirely true. I’m FOCUSED energy. When I engage with someone, I’m fully in the moment with them and I’m either talking about something in an engaged passionate fashion and expressing myself, or I’m listening intently and actually hearing what they’re saying.

    So I’ll be having conversations that look like this (Rob Lowe is also 50):

    http://cdn.wegotthiscovered.com/wp-content/uploads/CALIFORNICATION-Season-4-Episode-2-4.jpg

    http://25.media.tumblr.com/93758a42cb2e45921617097d11aa0416/tumblr_mky608fNPZ1rp01wko1_400.gif

    http://f.kulfoto.com/pic/0001/0033/9q6E832438.jpg

    Where it looks like the people I’m with are actually INTERESTING people to me and like we’re having an interesting conversation, whether they’re good buddies, girls, or completely random people.

    Girls see that kind of engaged energy and they go “wow, I wonder what they’re talking about?? They haven’t even looked over here…maybe we should go stand near them or order a drink beside them at the bar and hopefully they’ll notice us!”

    Especially when the guys beside us look like this:

    http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg80/asami42421/DSC02303.jpg

    The thing is, I’m sure the dudes in all these photos are actually cool guys in the right circumstance. Like when they’re comfortable and talking about something they’re really passionate about with good friends, I’m sure they’re probably funny and some alpha body language comes out and shit…and if they’d just ask the chick at the clothing store to help them pick out a solid outfit and such, and then tap into that coolness inside, they could probably do decent with girls.

    But they don’t know how to express themselves. They’re feeling out of place at the bar, intimidated by whatever girls are around, completely out of their comfort zones, and the Blue Pill has beaten them over the head with “don’t you dare think you’re good enough to get the hot girl over there, you don’t have what she’d want, just stand on Death Row drinking your beers like good little chodes so these girls don’t accidentally mistake you for a cool alpha guy and fuck you”. It’s almost not even their fault half the time…they just haven’t found the steps to grow that confidence that tells them “it’s okay to take up space and care about your appearance and express opinions that people may or may not agree with and talk to girls you’re attracted to and talk to strangers around you and spread value and good vibes”.

    Went off on a tangent there lol Anyway, with the response I’m getting from the young chick age range, I don’t see any reason why I wouldn’t be able to get a 22-25yo when I’m 40. Long as I don’t quit taking care of myself and let it all go downhill, of course. I’m not into the whole settling down thing right now, but if I did end up deciding I want kids and a long-term relationship, I don’t see a reason I wouldn’t be able to have fun till I’m 40, then find some quality 22yo in her prime, pop out some babies and start being a dad before 45…take care of my body and I should make it to at LEAST 65 which is old enough to have raised a couple solid kids.

    hmmm, I’d better go exercise after posting this, these Froot Loops probably aren’t going to help me make it past 40 lol



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The moderators are killing me. I have part two of this FR stuck and part two of Wednesdays stuff stuck in a previous post. S much for breaking my stuff up I to chunks. Lol


  • YaReally
    on June 8, 2014 at 8:58 am
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    lol I heart the chateau but what’s the deal with the moderation lately? I can’t get anything but little one liner posts like this to show up these days. Is there just a flood of troll to deal with after the Elliot shooting or what?

    It’s frustrating to write a big in-depth quality response and have it sit in moderation for days (sometimes to never actually be approved) when posts like “you know the answer: RAAAAAAAPE” seem to get thru with no problems.


    • YaReally
      on June 8, 2014 at 12:50 pm
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      @reco
      I’ve got a big long response to you in moderation here so keep checkin back on it: http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/06/05/tease-girls-right-away/#comment-573922

      CH, can you approve it? It goes into depth about punishment/reward etc. I can’t even really remember now lol

      M’s hamster has exploded all over the new article with 40 one-liners…there’s gotta be a way in wordpress to filter that shit out and approve the quality posts when they’re posted.


    • YaReally
      on June 9, 2014 at 6:23 am
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      “Pisses me off.”

      Why?



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Hugh Mann
on June 6, 2014 at 3:51 pm
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This tweet is probably as much Dalrock as CH, but here goes :

“These two charts from OkCupid founder @christianrudder’s new book will disturb you deeply.”

Only if you don’t think realistically about the world, or don’t read these blogs.

Chart 1 – “women’s age vs the age of the men who look best to them”. Chart 2 – “men’s age vs the age of the women who look best to them”


  • YaReally
    on June 7, 2014 at 6:35 am
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    So much lol at what those charts reveal and the mind-fuck they’ll do to Blue Pill people. Like you can spout all the propaganda you want but when you look at legit data, there’s the Red Pill SMV in action for everyone to see.

    I literally choked on my cereal laughing at the zone of greatness. C’mon 24yo dude, why aren’t you messaging a 40yo woman???? Didn’t you see the CougarLife video??? lol Even on the other end of things, a 34 man in his prime with an established life and everything messaging some 42yo cat lady so they can pop out babies with birth defects and shit that will take second place in her heart next to her cats?? lol

    In other news, this whole “men are all feminized pussy manginas” thing is working out GREAT for me. The main area I do my gaming in has an abundance of 18-25yos (university in this city) and they all LOVE hearing that I’m in my early 30s. I can’t even count the number of girls who’ve been like “no I LIKE older men, guys my age are lame and immature”. It’s so entertaining to me that I purposely bring up age in our conversations early on just to see how they’ll react. They don’t even FLINCH, no fucks given about me having a solid 10 years on some of them. Early 30s is the perfect age range to be banging 18-22yo’s, you’re the “older man” fantasy without being so old that you remind them too much of their Dad.

    I should note that when people guess my age they usually place me around 26. They’re mindblown when they here I’m 30+. Is it because I have fantastic glowing young skin and a baby face and 6-pack abs? No, hell I have a bit of a beard most of the time these days and a bit of a beer belly. Is it because I jump and dance around like a kid on a sugar-high high-fiving half the bar and yapping with girls about Miley Cyrus and their opinion on twerking? No, I’m pretty low-energy actually and I actively tell them “I don’t have a clue what you’re talking about, I’m too old lol” Is it because I’m all peacocked up with sparkly Affliction shirts and tattoos and shit? No, I literally just wear a plain t-shirt and jeans (that fit good and aren’t from 2005 lol)

    The reason they’re blown away by my actual age is because I don’t ACT like some old fuck who’s given up on life and feels “too old to be in this bar with these kids” dressed like a slob ungroomed and just looking like I’m uncomfortable with myself and the environment, like these dudes who are probably around my age:

    Jesus, just Googling for those photos depressed me lol

    No girl wants to meet those guys. No girl sees that and is like “wow, I want in on that party of 30+ dudes, THEY’LL be exciting and cool mature men to live out my fantasy with” lol

    They wanna meet guys like this (both of these dudes are in their 50s in real life):

    And when I say I’m “low-energy”, that’s not entirely true. I’m FOCUSED energy. When I engage with someone, I’m fully in the moment with them and I’m either talking about something in an engaged passionate fashion and expressing myself, or I’m listening intently and actually hearing what they’re saying.

    So I’ll be having conversations that look like this (Rob Lowe is also 50):

    Where it looks like the people I’m with are actually INTERESTING people to me and like we’re having an interesting conversation, whether they’re good buddies, girls, or completely random people.

    Girls see that kind of engaged energy and they go “wow, I wonder what they’re talking about?? They haven’t even looked over here…maybe we should go stand near them or order a drink beside them at the bar and hopefully they’ll notice us!”

    Especially when the guys beside us look like this:

    The thing is, I’m sure the dudes in all these photos are actually cool guys in the right circumstance. Like when they’re comfortable and talking about something they’re really passionate about with good friends, I’m sure they’re probably funny and some alpha body language comes out and shit…and if they’d just ask the chick at the clothing store to help them pick out a solid outfit and such, and then tap into that coolness inside, they could probably do decent with girls.

    But they don’t know how to express themselves. They’re feeling out of place at the bar, intimidated by whatever girls are around, completely out of their comfort zones, and the Blue Pill has beaten them over the head with “don’t you dare think you’re good enough to get the hot girl over there, you don’t have what she’d want, just stand on Death Row drinking your beers like good little chodes so these girls don’t accidentally mistake you for a cool alpha guy and fuck you”. It’s almost not even their fault half the time…they just haven’t found the steps to grow that confidence that tells them “it’s okay to take up space and care about your appearance and express opinions that people may or may not agree with and talk to girls you’re attracted to and talk to strangers around you and spread value and good vibes”.

    Went off on a tangent there lol Anyway, with the response I’m getting from the young chick age range, I don’t see any reason why I wouldn’t be able to get a 22-25yo when I’m 40. Long as I don’t quit taking care of myself and let it all go downhill, of course. I’m not into the whole settling down thing right now, but if I did end up deciding I want kids and a long-term relationship, I don’t see a reason I wouldn’t be able to have fun till I’m 40, then find some quality 22yo in her prime, pop out some babies and start being a dad before 45…take care of my body and I should make it to at LEAST 65 which is old enough to have raised a couple solid kids.

    hmmm, I’d better go exercise after posting this, these Froot Loops probably aren’t going to help me make it past 40 lol



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Reco
on June 8, 2014 at 6:13 am
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The moderators are killing me. I have part two of this FR stuck and part two of Wednesdays stuff stuck in a previous post. S much for breaking my stuff up I to chunks. Lol


  • YaReally
    on June 8, 2014 at 8:58 am
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    lol I heart the chateau but what’s the deal with the moderation lately? I can’t get anything but little one liner posts like this to show up these days. Is there just a flood of troll to deal with after the Elliot shooting or what?

    It’s frustrating to write a big in-depth quality response and have it sit in moderation for days (sometimes to never actually be approved) when posts like “you know the answer: RAAAAAAAPE” seem to get thru with no problems.


    • YaReally
      on June 8, 2014 at 12:50 pm
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      @reco
      I’ve got a big long response to you in moderation here so keep checkin back on it: https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2014/06/05/tease-girls-right-away/#comment-573922

      CH, can you approve it? It goes into depth about punishment/reward etc. I can’t even really remember now lol

      M’s hamster has exploded all over the new article with 40 one-liners…there’s gotta be a way in wordpress to filter that shit out and approve the quality posts when they’re posted.


    • YaReally
      on June 9, 2014 at 6:23 am
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      “Pisses me off.”

      Why?



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Thursday Update: (part 1)

@yareall and @HABD, So a lot has happened the last couple of days. Let me review and please offer any suggestions or critique.

So let me start with the bad. On the 25YO Latina hottie I contacted in the last weekend and she flaked. She flaked without any notice or response. Not really interested in fighting this uphill battle. So I am nexting her. Then there is the 33YOprude. It did not go well. So if you remember she had been trying to reach out to me and I have been silent. So I contacted her on Monday night she got back to me Tuesday morning. We went back and for a little while then when she started in as I figured she would. I began to do the punishment and boundaries like I have been learning. She immediately fell into line. And we set up a time to meet not pick her up that night. Then at around 5pm I contacted her to give her the location to meet. She immediately started in on the drama again about yet another car accident. And she was in a bad mood. It was obvious to me that she was just being a little bitch and as HABD said she was not done with her rolodex.

At this point I started the punishment about boundaries like in the ebook. I put quite a bit of pressure on her and she basically agreed with me. However she was not changing her behavior and was very passive. Actually I was amazed that when I put pressure on her she never directly confronted me with any energy. I sure she was not used to this. But she had painted herself in a corner and was obviously lying and playing games. I could not get her to meet out. And so it ended badly and I am not really interested in pursuing her anymore. Maybe I am too impatient to continue this crazieness. And she was not coming around. I believe there is a good chance that she would come around eventually. But it was an uphill battle. And I have several cool prospects to keep fighting this one. Why waste time on a dumb cunt that is so self-absorbed and entitled with a newly named disorder from me. Princess complex syndrome. Lol

Now for the good. My little 30YOIndian, she is getting better and better. Communication is good and getting better. She is really into me and ready to meet. I am out of town and she is calling and texting. In fact on our earlier interactions if you remember I was trying to steer more and more towards a sexual conversation a couple of days ago. And she followed. But at one point she backed off and told me that she wasn’t comfortable going any further until she met me. I agreed and cooled it for the time being. My analysis was that I was moving her emotionally and quickly and I believed it scared her and she was trying to relieve the sexual tension. She was probably feeling like she was losing control. She had also sent me a few pics but wanted to hold back on sending more pics until we met. But….(see part 2)


  • having a bad day
    on June 5, 2014 at 3:28 pm
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    @reco
    “She flaked without any notice or response. Not really interested in fighting this uphill battle. So I am nexting her.”

    “I could not get her to meet out. And so it ended badly and I am not really interested in pursuing her anymore.”

    welcome to the abundance mentality…lol…

    on the 25yolatina, don’t chase her…but you could ping in a month like nothing happened and you are just getting around to her now…lol…and see what happens=potential in-field experience…lol…girls flake all the time on guys that don’t have solid DHV with them yet…lol…so don’t take her flaking personally…lol…it was a ‘general filter’ type shit test, but you only fail if you bring it up or chase her…

    on the 33yoprude…

    “At this point I started the punishment about boundaries like in the ebook. [punishment = caring about her/outcome dependent=beta] I put quite a bit of pressure on her and she basically agreed with me. [rolodex…] However she was not changing her behavior and was very passive. [rolodex…] Actually I was amazed that when I put pressure on her she never directly confronted me with any energy. [rolodex…] I sure she was not used to this. [maybe…but her rolodex came from somewhere…lol] But she had painted herself in a corner and was obviously lying and playing games. [rolodex…] I could not get her to meet out. [rolodex…] And so it ended badly and I am not really interested in pursuing her anymore. Maybe I am too impatient to continue this craziness. [that's true…and it's good and bad…good=abundance mentality/bad=pass up valuable in field experience…lol] And she was not coming around. [rolodex…] I believe there is a good chance that she would come around eventually. But it was an uphill battle. [lol…i'll just point out that your initial beta behavior caused this…lol…but you're right she might not be worth the effort…also, guard dog situ…lol] And I have several cool prospects to keep fighting this one. Why waste time on a dumb cunt that is so self-absorbed and entitled with a newly named disorder from me. Princess complex syndrome. Lol” [one reason is that you get in-field experience in turning around a bad start…so you know that it can work out…it's just more red pill knowledge…lol…otherwise, no reason not to cut bait…lol]

    note – that ‘putting pressure on her’ was probably interpreted by her hamster as a win for her/beta loss for you…since she was GETTING ATTENTION for her bad behavior. it also probably contributed to not being able to get her out…bc it shows that she has value to you (even if you haven’t contacted her for a while…)…as opposed to you fitting her into your fun (with no pressure bc you have so much other stuff going on)…

    if i remember right, YaReally’s game plan was ‘offer to meet out’… if she agreed, great, if not, silence for 2 weeks…but don’t reward the drama…lol…

    also, you need to try to understand 33yoprude’s position and why she’s reacting like this (at least for academic rigor…lol)…she’s facing the ‘wall’ and it’s RIGHT THERE!!! OMG! WHAT WILL I DO!!!…lol…she had thought she had a provider lined up (and she probably still thinks that on some level…since you rewarded her behavior with attention…lol) and then you ‘spit out the hook’…lol…of course she’s ‘down’ but that’s part of her rolodex too…lol…and now she doesn’t know that you spit the hook, she just thinks it’s part of the interaction pattern…and she doesn’t really have time to make mistakes in securing a provider, so she goes with what she knows will work (bc it has in the past)…she’ll probably contact you in a day or two like nothing happened…you can still turn it around. it’s just going to take longer now…lol…

    on the 30yo…

    “My analysis was that I was moving her emotionally and quickly and I believed it scared her and she was trying to relieve the sexual tension. ”

    and that was bad for you, how?…lol…

    “She was probably feeling like she was losing control.” she was…then she got it back when she cut you off… and you agreed…lol…

    “But at one point she backed off and told me that she wasn’t comfortable going any further until she met me.” that was a beta bait trap…she lead and you followed…

    you had two choices here…1) “I agreed and cooled it for the time being.” this was you slipping into her frame…why is sexual tension bad for YOU?…lol…answer = it’s not…

    2) agree and amplify/redirect ‘ya, i’ve found it’s really difficult to go farther until we meet…’ then change the subject to something less sexual…(misconstrue what she said in a sexual ‘we’ll get around to it later’ way…lol) the point being, YOU changed the subject on your terms…not on her terms.

    “She had also sent me a few pics but wanted to hold back on sending more pics until we met.”

    also, standard beta baiting…notice how the theme is to get the topic OFF sex…lol…bc girls really can’t stop getting revved up, once they start…lol…that’s buying temp…lol…and they need betas to help them out from making terrible genetic mistakes (like having sex with betas…lol). alphas don’t stop the sexual tension so it’s ok for girls to just go with it if the guy doesn’t stop, since he’s alpha= good genetics. see how it’s a ‘good genes’ selection behavior…lol…

    …yes, this is an important test to be able to see in real time…lol…

    you’re doing great! you’ve made outstanding progress! hard work pays off, eh?

    good luck!


    • YaReally
      on June 5, 2014 at 11:32 pm
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      HABD’s analysis is dead-on. Good stuff dude.

      Just minor notes to add:

      - can’t Next a girl you haven’t fucked. That’s her Next’ing you because your game wasn’t tight enough. You can drop her, but understand that she isn’t a princessy cunt bitch bla bla ego-protection butthurt name lol…she was simply reacting to the frame you set at the start. She’s a ton of work because you dug yourself into a hole that you had to first get out of before you could start going up the mountain. If you had met her for the first time ever say, a few months from now or a year from now when your game is way tighter and your “not a Provider” frame is stronger and more congruent, even so close to the wall she would probably meet up and bang wayyyy easier

      - you reacted too much to 33yo. Doesn’t matter if it was disciplining or what, you basically called her out on flaking/princessy shit, which shows that you’re getting frustrated, which shows that she means something to you…and that would be okay if you were all aloof and alpha badass from the start, but because you had a Provider frame that just told her “ahhh, okay, he IS into me that much, just like I thought, I don’t know what all this other weird behavior was, good to see he’s back in line reacting to me”.

      Some guys advocate a heavy drama approach to it like bitch her out bla bla and if she doesn’t get with it Next her, but I don’t believe in calling that a Next…that’s just bull in a china shop game to me. It also works better when you have higher value like she’s banged you a few times, not pre-bang. PRE-bang, that’s all reactive desperate shit.

      The goal with my more passive approach was to show that you don’t care if she meets up or not…you’re not mad about her misbehaving, you just lose interest in chasing her when she misbehaves. She expects to at least keep your attention (I had a girl bitch me out once saying “Why don’t you want to be friends with me??? lol” when I realized she didn’t want to bang again and just wanted attention and I, honestly, just have too much other shit going on to maintain a relationship like that and basically told her that flat out lol), so when you withdraw THAT, she’s like “o shit he’ll actually fully leave my LIFE, I thought he’d at least stick around and orbit me!!” and shit gets real for her

      - with indian chick you just went too far too soon without a face to face meetup. Gotta’ cross the line but then pull it back to show that you aren’t like “omg this is the only conversation about sex i’ve ever had with a girl I have to keep on this topic forever because I’ll never get another chance to have this kind of sexual interaction again!!!” desperate. So ideally you should have pulled it back to normal safe topics just before she said that stuff. It’s fine that you backed off, it won’t sabotage you at all, buuuut IDEALLY if you ARE in that situ again, HABD’s advice about changing topics on your time (VS backing off because she tells you to) is better even if the only difference is literally one txt or literally a few words in your next txt that make it sound like you’re choosing to back off VS her making you

      Just meet up with her ASAP and go right for the lay after one drink. You have her along the path I normally have girls where we both know it’s on when we meet up but she still has to meet face to face and just make sure you’re not a freak or serial killer. Lock eye-contact, be cool, be comfortable, joke around about sexual topics, and take her back to your place after a drink or two. Shouldn’t be any LMR once she sees you’re cool in person.

      I have a chick I’m meeting up with tomorrow night where it’s the same idea…we were talking about sexual topics all day, bondage and shit, but I backed off now and then to normal topics to remind her I’m a normal cool guy. We have actual plans to meet up established, so now I’m sticking to purely non-sexual topics so I don’t trigger her ASD. In person I’ll use laser eye-contact and just be fun and flirty and then I can go back into sexual topics and just take her home from there. If she actually meets up and doesn’t flake (it’s always possible lol), I don’t see any reason why we won’t have sex, because I’ve laid all the proper groundwork and kept in a Lover frame instead of Provider and haven’t pushed too far/desperate into sexual topic territory, so to her I’m literally just this fun social flirty kind of pervy but in a lovable unapologetic way guy she gets to go have a drink with and can trust to lead things to sex for us.

      You’re doing awesome, don’t let this stuff discourage you. Enjoy your indian chick and 40YO will probably come around for another bang in the next couple weeks.

      33YO might not be worth the effort, and that’s fine if you cut her loose, if nothing else it’s a lesson in how bad establishing yourself as a Provider can really fuck you over. Even if you go 100% radio silent on her, she’ll probably txt you in a couple months to see how you are and try this whole shitshow over again lol…except you’ll be starting from where you are now, every time you fuck it up and make her think you need her, it takes that much longer to fix it and make her think you don’t need her.

      Good stuff dude!


    • YaReally
      on June 6, 2014 at 9:52 am
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      good follow-up. Got a response in mod as usual lol



Tease Girls Right Away

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Thursday Update: (part 1)

@yareall and @HABD, So a lot has happened the last couple of days. Let me review and please offer any suggestions or critique.

So let me start with the bad. On the 25YO Latina hottie I contacted in the last weekend and she flaked. She flaked without any notice or response. Not really interested in fighting this uphill battle. So I am nexting her. Then there is the 33YOprude. It did not go well. So if you remember she had been trying to reach out to me and I have been silent. So I contacted her on Monday night she got back to me Tuesday morning. We went back and for a little while then when she started in as I figured she would. I began to do the punishment and boundaries like I have been learning. She immediately fell into line. And we set up a time to meet not pick her up that night. Then at around 5pm I contacted her to give her the location to meet. She immediately started in on the drama again about yet another car accident. And she was in a bad mood. It was obvious to me that she was just being a little bitch and as HABD said she was not done with her rolodex.

At this point I started the punishment about boundaries like in the ebook. I put quite a bit of pressure on her and she basically agreed with me. However she was not changing her behavior and was very passive. Actually I was amazed that when I put pressure on her she never directly confronted me with any energy. I sure she was not used to this. But she had painted herself in a corner and was obviously lying and playing games. I could not get her to meet out. And so it ended badly and I am not really interested in pursuing her anymore. Maybe I am too impatient to continue this crazieness. And she was not coming around. I believe there is a good chance that she would come around eventually. But it was an uphill battle. And I have several cool prospects to keep fighting this one. Why waste time on a dumb cunt that is so self-absorbed and entitled with a newly named disorder from me. Princess complex syndrome. Lol

Now for the good. My little 30YOIndian, she is getting better and better. Communication is good and getting better. She is really into me and ready to meet. I am out of town and she is calling and texting. In fact on our earlier interactions if you remember I was trying to steer more and more towards a sexual conversation a couple of days ago. And she followed. But at one point she backed off and told me that she wasn’t comfortable going any further until she met me. I agreed and cooled it for the time being. My analysis was that I was moving her emotionally and quickly and I believed it scared her and she was trying to relieve the sexual tension. She was probably feeling like she was losing control. She had also sent me a few pics but wanted to hold back on sending more pics until we met. But….(see part 2)


  • having a bad day
    on June 5, 2014 at 3:28 pm
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    “She flaked without any notice or response. Not really interested in fighting this uphill battle. So I am nexting her.”

    “I could not get her to meet out. And so it ended badly and I am not really interested in pursuing her anymore.”

    welcome to the abundance mentality…lol…

    on the 25yolatina, don’t chase her…but you could ping in a month like nothing happened and you are just getting around to her now…lol…and see what happens=potential in-field experience…lol…girls flake all the time on guys that don’t have solid DHV with them yet…lol…so don’t take her flaking personally…lol…it was a ‘general filter’ type shit test, but you only fail if you bring it up or chase her…

    on the 33yoprude…

    “At this point I started the punishment about boundaries like in the ebook. [punishment = caring about her/outcome dependent=beta] I put quite a bit of pressure on her and she basically agreed with me. [rolodex…] However she was not changing her behavior and was very passive. [rolodex…] Actually I was amazed that when I put pressure on her she never directly confronted me with any energy. [rolodex…] I sure she was not used to this. [maybe…but her rolodex came from somewhere…lol] But she had painted herself in a corner and was obviously lying and playing games. [rolodex…] I could not get her to meet out. [rolodex…] And so it ended badly and I am not really interested in pursuing her anymore. Maybe I am too impatient to continue this craziness. [that’s true…and it’s good and bad…good=abundance mentality/bad=pass up valuable in field experience…lol] And she was not coming around. [rolodex…] I believe there is a good chance that she would come around eventually. But it was an uphill battle. [lol…i’ll just point out that your initial beta behavior caused this…lol…but you’re right she might not be worth the effort…also, guard dog situ…lol] And I have several cool prospects to keep fighting this one. Why waste time on a dumb cunt that is so self-absorbed and entitled with a newly named disorder from me. Princess complex syndrome. Lol” [one reason is that you get in-field experience in turning around a bad start…so you know that it can work out…it’s just more red pill knowledge…lol…otherwise, no reason not to cut bait…lol]

    note – that ‘putting pressure on her’ was probably interpreted by her hamster as a win for her/beta loss for you…since she was GETTING ATTENTION for her bad behavior. it also probably contributed to not being able to get her out…bc it shows that she has value to you (even if you haven’t contacted her for a while…)…as opposed to you fitting her into your fun (with no pressure bc you have so much other stuff going on)…

    if i remember right, YaReally’s game plan was ‘offer to meet out’… if she agreed, great, if not, silence for 2 weeks…but don’t reward the drama…lol…

    also, you need to try to understand 33yoprude’s position and why she’s reacting like this (at least for academic rigor…lol)…she’s facing the ‘wall’ and it’s RIGHT THERE!!! OMG! WHAT WILL I DO!!!…lol…she had thought she had a provider lined up (and she probably still thinks that on some level…since you rewarded her behavior with attention…lol) and then you ‘spit out the hook’…lol…of course she’s ‘down’ but that’s part of her rolodex too…lol…and now she doesn’t know that you spit the hook, she just thinks it’s part of the interaction pattern…and she doesn’t really have time to make mistakes in securing a provider, so she goes with what she knows will work (bc it has in the past)…she’ll probably contact you in a day or two like nothing happened…you can still turn it around. it’s just going to take longer now…lol…

    on the 30yo…

    “My analysis was that I was moving her emotionally and quickly and I believed it scared her and she was trying to relieve the sexual tension. ”

    and that was bad for you, how?…lol…

    “She was probably feeling like she was losing control.” she was…then she got it back when she cut you off… and you agreed…lol…

    “But at one point she backed off and told me that she wasn’t comfortable going any further until she met me.” that was a beta bait trap…she lead and you followed…

    you had two choices here…1) “I agreed and cooled it for the time being.” this was you slipping into her frame…why is sexual tension bad for YOU?…lol…answer = it’s not…

    2) agree and amplify/redirect ‘ya, i’ve found it’s really difficult to go farther until we meet…’ then change the subject to something less sexual…(misconstrue what she said in a sexual ‘we’ll get around to it later’ way…lol) the point being, YOU changed the subject on your terms…not on her terms.

    “She had also sent me a few pics but wanted to hold back on sending more pics until we met.”

    also, standard beta baiting…notice how the theme is to get the topic OFF sex…lol…bc girls really can’t stop getting revved up, once they start…lol…that’s buying temp…lol…and they need betas to help them out from making terrible genetic mistakes (like having sex with betas…lol). alphas don’t stop the sexual tension so it’s ok for girls to just go with it if the guy doesn’t stop, since he’s alpha= good genetics. see how it’s a ‘good genes’ selection behavior…lol…

    …yes, this is an important test to be able to see in real time…lol…

    you’re doing great! you’ve made outstanding progress! hard work pays off, eh?

    good luck!


    • YaReally
      on June 5, 2014 at 11:32 pm
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      @reco @habd
      HABD’s analysis is dead-on. Good stuff dude.

      Just minor notes to add:

      – can’t Next a girl you haven’t fucked. That’s her Next’ing you because your game wasn’t tight enough. You can drop her, but understand that she isn’t a princessy cunt bitch bla bla ego-protection butthurt name lol…she was simply reacting to the frame you set at the start. She’s a ton of work because you dug yourself into a hole that you had to first get out of before you could start going up the mountain. If you had met her for the first time ever say, a few months from now or a year from now when your game is way tighter and your “not a Provider” frame is stronger and more congruent, even so close to the wall she would probably meet up and bang wayyyy easier

      – you reacted too much to 33yo. Doesn’t matter if it was disciplining or what, you basically called her out on flaking/princessy shit, which shows that you’re getting frustrated, which shows that she means something to you…and that would be okay if you were all aloof and alpha badass from the start, but because you had a Provider frame that just told her “ahhh, okay, he IS into me that much, just like I thought, I don’t know what all this other weird behavior was, good to see he’s back in line reacting to me”.

      Some guys advocate a heavy drama approach to it like bitch her out bla bla and if she doesn’t get with it Next her, but I don’t believe in calling that a Next…that’s just bull in a china shop game to me. It also works better when you have higher value like she’s banged you a few times, not pre-bang. PRE-bang, that’s all reactive desperate shit.

      The goal with my more passive approach was to show that you don’t care if she meets up or not…you’re not mad about her misbehaving, you just lose interest in chasing her when she misbehaves. She expects to at least keep your attention (I had a girl bitch me out once saying “Why don’t you want to be friends with me??? lol” when I realized she didn’t want to bang again and just wanted attention and I, honestly, just have too much other shit going on to maintain a relationship like that and basically told her that flat out lol), so when you withdraw THAT, she’s like “o shit he’ll actually fully leave my LIFE, I thought he’d at least stick around and orbit me!!” and shit gets real for her

      – with indian chick you just went too far too soon without a face to face meetup. Gotta’ cross the line but then pull it back to show that you aren’t like “omg this is the only conversation about sex i’ve ever had with a girl I have to keep on this topic forever because I’ll never get another chance to have this kind of sexual interaction again!!!” desperate. So ideally you should have pulled it back to normal safe topics just before she said that stuff. It’s fine that you backed off, it won’t sabotage you at all, buuuut IDEALLY if you ARE in that situ again, HABD’s advice about changing topics on your time (VS backing off because she tells you to) is better even if the only difference is literally one txt or literally a few words in your next txt that make it sound like you’re choosing to back off VS her making you

      Just meet up with her ASAP and go right for the lay after one drink. You have her along the path I normally have girls where we both know it’s on when we meet up but she still has to meet face to face and just make sure you’re not a freak or serial killer. Lock eye-contact, be cool, be comfortable, joke around about sexual topics, and take her back to your place after a drink or two. Shouldn’t be any LMR once she sees you’re cool in person.

      I have a chick I’m meeting up with tomorrow night where it’s the same idea…we were talking about sexual topics all day, bondage and shit, but I backed off now and then to normal topics to remind her I’m a normal cool guy. We have actual plans to meet up established, so now I’m sticking to purely non-sexual topics so I don’t trigger her ASD. In person I’ll use laser eye-contact and just be fun and flirty and then I can go back into sexual topics and just take her home from there. If she actually meets up and doesn’t flake (it’s always possible lol), I don’t see any reason why we won’t have sex, because I’ve laid all the proper groundwork and kept in a Lover frame instead of Provider and haven’t pushed too far/desperate into sexual topic territory, so to her I’m literally just this fun social flirty kind of pervy but in a lovable unapologetic way guy she gets to go have a drink with and can trust to lead things to sex for us.

      You’re doing awesome, don’t let this stuff discourage you. Enjoy your indian chick and 40YO will probably come around for another bang in the next couple weeks.

      33YO might not be worth the effort, and that’s fine if you cut her loose, if nothing else it’s a lesson in how bad establishing yourself as a Provider can really fuck you over. Even if you go 100% radio silent on her, she’ll probably txt you in a couple months to see how you are and try this whole shitshow over again lol…except you’ll be starting from where you are now, every time you fuck it up and make her think you need her, it takes that much longer to fix it and make her think you don’t need her.

      Good stuff dude!


    • YaReally
      on June 6, 2014 at 9:52 am
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      @habd @reco
      good follow-up. Got a response in mod as usual lol



Confirming Dates Like A Boss

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Current generation’s examples of “taking charge” lol:

http://jezebel.com/the-disturbing-sexual-assault-on-last-nights-louie-1585585878

Fucking painful to watch. From the “please please please??” body-language, to the having to be shit-faced to have the balls to make a move, to the logically explaining “you SAID you wanted me to make a move” followed by sexual-intent-shirking “so I’m gonna’ make a move!!” excuse (see, he’s not making a move because he’s a sexual being who’s comfortable with expressing his sexuality, he’s actually a Nice Guy who respects women who’s JUST doing this because she SAID she wanted him to…wow, how sexy, what woman doesn’t fantasize about being told “I’m only trying to fuck you because you want me to” lol)

Just fucking embarrassing. And of course every comment on that video is “wow this is horrible” “ahh my trigger warnings are kicking in” and “god this is such sexual assault, horrifying!!”

Not a SINGLE comment on that article is about “wow that was sexy” or “wow I wish a guy would kiss ME like that!!”. Not even ONE.

Versus role models of the past when it was socially acceptable to acknowledge what actually turns women on and when it was socially acceptable for a man to not be ashamed of his sexual nature:

And of course the comments on those videos (aside from a few manginas touting the feminist-brainwashed “but this is raaaape!!” bitterness because they aren’t getting laid themselves) are full of “wow that’s so hot” and “omg that’s a real man, taking what he wants” and “I wish a guy would kiss me like this” shit.

So which is more likely:

1) Jezebel commenters just happen to be a massive group of sexually repressed unattractive damaged women with fucked up views on sex? …well, that’s probably true lol

or 2) Your intent and confidence does more to influence how they feel about “going for it” than your actual actions.

Those same chicks commenting on Jezzie would cream themselves like any other chick at the older MSM kissing scenes. But if you’re as wishy-washy and pathetic as Louie is in the first clip, you’re going to get the same disgust he got.

I’d say Friends was around the key point that everything in the mainstream media started heading toward wishy-washy guys scared to kiss the girl, and showing girls having to take charge and kiss the guys. Not only were Ross/Chandler types perfectly toeing the feminist line by being big wussy manginas so they were promoted as the perfect Nice Guys, but they were REWARDED for it by girls kissing them, while simultaneously Joey was treated like a joke with his whole “How YOU doin?” line that shows sexual intent.

Feminist influence is creating a society where men are terrified to make a move or think they’ll be rewarded for NOT making a move, and women are frustrated that no man will make a move and disgusted when men who have no idea HOW to make a move (because there are no role models for them anymore) make a move like Louie that’s just creepy and gross and pathetic…it would be a funny situation if it wasn’t so sad.

If you’re hitting on a girl with a boyfriend, and you’ve seen the guy, ask yourself “how does he probably kiss her? Can I see him ravaging her? Throwing her on the bed and ripping her clothes off to fuck her brains out? Or is he probably one of those lame wishy-washy guys who’s hands shake nervously as he takes her clothes off or he lets her make all the moves?” If you figure him for the Louie type, odds are you can fuck his girl pretty easily with a dominant kiss.

Even with longer-term girlfriends/fuckbuddies I’ve had, when their friends see us in public going at it, they’ll say stuff like “wow how long have you two been together?” expecting it to be just a few weeks, and they’re like “wtf” when they find out it’s been months/years, because I do a lot of pinning-against-the-wall and dominant/aggressive passionate kissing. Kissing like a Lover not a Provider.

It’s like Liam Mcrae says: “Have you ever read an erotic novel? Read one. It’s never “oh we won’t on a date, and he was really nervous, and he awkwardly tried to kiss me in the car at the end and then on the second date he touched my boob and I told him he couldn’t and he stopped, he was really slow at escalating and unsure about it…and it was just so hot how he didn’t own his sexual intent.” No woman has that fantasy. The fantasy is always “the pirate who came and took her on his ship off to a desert island, or some duke of Scrufflington who whisks her away on his horse” on a sexual adventure”

Just saw that Louie clip and wanted to post about it because it made my dick hurt to see such a brutal mangina display that’s going to get touted around as “see?? You have to have her fill out 3 forms of consent before you kiss her!! …how come I’m not attracted to any of you guys when you give me these consent forms to fill out??” hamster fuel.



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YaReally
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Current generation’s examples of “taking charge” lol:

http://jezebel.com/the-disturbing-sexual-assault-on-last-nights-louie-1585585878

Fucking painful to watch. From the “please please please??” body-language, to the having to be shit-faced to have the balls to make a move, to the logically explaining “you SAID you wanted me to make a move” followed by sexual-intent-shirking “so I’m gonna’ make a move!!” excuse (see, he’s not making a move because he’s a sexual being who’s comfortable with expressing his sexuality, he’s actually a Nice Guy who respects women who’s JUST doing this because she SAID she wanted him to…wow, how sexy, what woman doesn’t fantasize about being told “I’m only trying to fuck you because you want me to” lol)

Just fucking embarrassing. And of course every comment on that video is “wow this is horrible” “ahh my trigger warnings are kicking in” and “god this is such sexual assault, horrifying!!”

Not a SINGLE comment on that article is about “wow that was sexy” or “wow I wish a guy would kiss ME like that!!”. Not even ONE.

Versus role models of the past when it was socially acceptable to acknowledge what actually turns women on and when it was socially acceptable for a man to not be ashamed of his sexual nature:

And of course the comments on those videos (aside from a few manginas touting the feminist-brainwashed “but this is raaaape!!” bitterness because they aren’t getting laid themselves) are full of “wow that’s so hot” and “omg that’s a real man, taking what he wants” and “I wish a guy would kiss me like this” shit.

So which is more likely:

1) Jezebel commenters just happen to be a massive group of sexually repressed unattractive damaged women with fucked up views on sex? …well, that’s probably true lol

or 2) Your intent and confidence does more to influence how they feel about “going for it” than your actual actions.

Those same chicks commenting on Jezzie would cream themselves like any other chick at the older MSM kissing scenes. But if you’re as wishy-washy and pathetic as Louie is in the first clip, you’re going to get the same disgust he got.

I’d say Friends was around the key point that everything in the mainstream media started heading toward wishy-washy guys scared to kiss the girl, and showing girls having to take charge and kiss the guys. Not only were Ross/Chandler types perfectly toeing the feminist line by being big wussy manginas so they were promoted as the perfect Nice Guys, but they were REWARDED for it by girls kissing them, while simultaneously Joey was treated like a joke with his whole “How YOU doin?” line that shows sexual intent.

Feminist influence is creating a society where men are terrified to make a move or think they’ll be rewarded for NOT making a move, and women are frustrated that no man will make a move and disgusted when men who have no idea HOW to make a move (because there are no role models for them anymore) make a move like Louie that’s just creepy and gross and pathetic…it would be a funny situation if it wasn’t so sad.

If you’re hitting on a girl with a boyfriend, and you’ve seen the guy, ask yourself “how does he probably kiss her? Can I see him ravaging her? Throwing her on the bed and ripping her clothes off to fuck her brains out? Or is he probably one of those lame wishy-washy guys who’s hands shake nervously as he takes her clothes off or he lets her make all the moves?” If you figure him for the Louie type, odds are you can fuck his girl pretty easily with a dominant kiss.

Even with longer-term girlfriends/fuckbuddies I’ve had, when their friends see us in public going at it, they’ll say stuff like “wow how long have you two been together?” expecting it to be just a few weeks, and they’re like “wtf” when they find out it’s been months/years, because I do a lot of pinning-against-the-wall and dominant/aggressive passionate kissing. Kissing like a Lover not a Provider.

It’s like Liam Mcrae says: “Have you ever read an erotic novel? Read one. It’s never “oh we won’t on a date, and he was really nervous, and he awkwardly tried to kiss me in the car at the end and then on the second date he touched my boob and I told him he couldn’t and he stopped, he was really slow at escalating and unsure about it…and it was just so hot how he didn’t own his sexual intent.” No woman has that fantasy. The fantasy is always “the pirate who came and took her on his ship off to a desert island, or some duke of Scrufflington who whisks her away on his horse” on a sexual adventure”

Just saw that Louie clip and wanted to post about it because it made my dick hurt to see such a brutal mangina display that’s going to get touted around as “see?? You have to have her fill out 3 forms of consent before you kiss her!! …how come I’m not attracted to any of you guys when you give me these consent forms to fill out??” hamster fuel.



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@YaReally @Scray @Walawala @PimpinBluestar & Those who have been in this situ.

Curious as to how one should go about escalating or just being sexually forward on a date with the top-tier girls (Hb8.5/9). That Latina I scooped up off daygame a couple days back went and met up with me for a drink last night.

I’m having difficulty with these girls (have been on dates with 3 diff ones now) and I’m starting to notice a pattern of behavior. I would love advice/insight on where I’m fucking up and how I should rectify it.

A few things:
1) The pick-up itself is strong. This HB8.5/9 Latina I picked up off daygame only saw me be dominant and just a normal fun dude. Opener was something like “Damn, you know it’s illegal to be walking that fast in New York, they’ll write you a ticket.” and I kept walking with her for 5 blocks.

2) The hot ones will go out of their way to meet up with me. It doesn’t fucking make sense but I guess since they rarely get approached like that (and approached so well hey) that maybe they assume I have ultra-high value? This girl went from downtown all the way to uptown to see me. Doesn’t make sense. Like guys are supposed to go see her and here she was going out of her way both logistically and trying to make convo.

3) I get friend-zoned kinda but in a weird way. Not in the humiliating way like I used to when I was an AFC, but in a “You’re making me laugh, but we’re not going to fuck” kind of way. Happened with HB8.5 Blonde russian I picked up last year in this FR (http://yareallyarchive.com/2013/8/#comment-heartiste-471987). Like we are still cool at the end of dates but in a “We should go out/hang-out” kind of way. Not in a “We are going to fuck” kind of way.

4) I’m definitely self-aware that I’m acting different. HB7.5 and below I can carry myself OK. I’m flirty, dominant, etc etc. And I TRY to be that way with HB8.5/9 but it’s almost like they can sniff it out….like quickly. I’m having trouble carrying that daygame street persona to the date I guess. Definitely scared of my own success kinda thing. This Latina from last night is hott….like doesn’t make eye-contact in public kind of hot, like is icy with guys at the club kind of hot, like enjoyed it when I made fun of her and told her congrats when she beat autism kind of hot….cause who says that to her?

Anyways, overall it was a good experience meeting this girl and picking her up and a good Day 3 of 30 for 30 Day Challenge but damn. It’s hella frustrating because I’m mentally sabotaging myself. That and I would like to know if it’s a bad play to be sexual/flirty with these kind of girls. Is that the wrong move? Does every chode act that way around them and you’re better off being chill and subtle?

To find out what I mean by being subtle, see Shocker’s comment from here:

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/10/29/the-age-of-flakes/#comment-381599

Anyway, to all those reading and who have been in my shoes, would love to hear what you have to say.

I’m close to nailing these kind of girls but maybe not at all. The open, the texting, the flirtaciousness and the aloof, flirty vibe were all there…but still it’s like a mental block.


  • Hunter
    on June 4, 2014 at 12:33 pm
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    Lol dude this exact thing happened with me last month with daygame… Russian girl was with her mom, hit on both of them, opened using line from Honest Signalz (If this is what I have to look forward to in 20 years, I want in).

    https://www.youtube.com/user/honestsignalz

    Was with wing who occupied the mom and I sat down with the girl. Totally dominant pickup, push-pulled, future projection, all that. She asked for my number and was down to hangout that night. She was only going to be in town for the weekend. I’d give her a solid 8.

    Then we met up later that night and I basically let her lead everything. Even told me to calm down at one point (with a laugh at the end but that’s just to relieve tension). Ended up at a bar and she asked me what I liked for beer. I said I don’t drink… but I could if she wanted (?) She got frustrated, ended up buying us drinks.

    And as expected it failed. I was nervous, didn’t do shit to lead, she picked up on that and left early. Came ALL the way north from downtown to see me. No physicality from the get-go.

    A lot of things I did wrong in the end, but I see now that setting the lover frame FROM THE GET GO was my issue. Should’ve twirled her around, talked about how good she looked, expressed sexual intent, SOMETHING… anything would’ve been better than setting a frame of chodeyness.

    I’ll write a full FR once I get off work, but I imagine we had similar problems.


    • YaReally
      on June 4, 2014 at 2:01 pm
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      It’s a limitation of “fake it till you make it” when you haven’t quite got the reference experience yet to have “made it”. A 6 can’t tell because you act like you’ve had a bunch of 6s and give no fucks, plus they’re not as socially intuitive. A 9 can tell because you’re acting (in your sub-communications) like you’re “trying” and wanting to “not fuck it up” (VS a 6 where you legit give no fucks if you fuck it up).

      So it’s a combo of slight incongruencies on your end and her being extra perceptive because she’s a 9 and HAS to be more perceptive of that stuff.

      It’s fine, it’ll fix itself over time as you get more experience around these girls and legitimately start to feel abundance. You can have an abundance mentality with 6s while at the same time having scarcity issues with 9s. Or whatever your personal high-value indicators are…you may have no probs with brunettes but change your behavior slightly with blondes etc.

      It’s all in your head though. You’ll probably lose a few of these girls before it sorts itself out. It’s just happening because you’re learning this stuff later in life so the mindsets don’t have solid foundations yet, whereas a Natural will have started forming those foundations at like 14. But the more time you spend around these women the less your brain will trip out and eff you over.

      Try purposely bombing it next time. Like when you meet up be too forward and get in her space and kiss her hello. Believe me the smokin hot girls’ problem isn’t guys being too sexually aggressive with them lol it’s that guys treat them like delicate magic special flowers and put on an overly inoffensive gentleman act around them so as not to offend them and fuck their chances up. The guys they meet who ARE too aggressive are the overcompensating guys who are putting on a “shtick” to preserve their ego where they get blown out but it wasn’t THEM that for blown out cause they were just hamming it up. Ego-preservation. It’s very rare for a smokin hot girl to meet a cool guy who’s sexually aggressive with legit intent/sincerity. That’s why she’ll drive across the city in the hopes that you’re that rare unicorn.

      Also she’s not going to give you blatant ioi’s like a 6. A 6 wants to lock you down so she throws herself at you. A 9 wants to see if you’re confident enough in your value to ASSUME she likes you just because she’s in the same room as you. She doesn’t want to have to tell you (via iois) that she’s attracted to you…the man who’s high-value enough to handle her is the man who with no feedback just assumes she’s attracted to him.

      Think of it like which boss would you trust to steer your company’s ship: the one who’s constantly asking you (his subordinates) “am I doing okay? Is this good enough? Please tell me I’m doing good…” needing you to coddle and reassure him? You gonna feel confident following that guy into battle? Or do you want the guy who’s like “fuck ya, I got this shit handled like a baws” as he charges into battle? You’re gonna trust that that guy knows what he’s doing.

      Get a “real man”‘s rejection. Get blown out for being too sexually aggressive instead of this friend zoned platonic shit. She’ll at least respect you for owning your cock ;) lol


  • YaReally
    on June 5, 2014 at 11:35 pm
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    left a reply for y’all but it’s still in mod :(



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immoralgables
on June 4, 2014 at 4:46 am
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@YaReally @Scray @Walawala @PimpinBluestar & Those who have been in this situ.

Curious as to how one should go about escalating or just being sexually forward on a date with the top-tier girls (Hb8.5/9). That Latina I scooped up off daygame a couple days back went and met up with me for a drink last night.

I’m having difficulty with these girls (have been on dates with 3 diff ones now) and I’m starting to notice a pattern of behavior. I would love advice/insight on where I’m fucking up and how I should rectify it.

A few things:
1) The pick-up itself is strong. This HB8.5/9 Latina I picked up off daygame only saw me be dominant and just a normal fun dude. Opener was something like “Damn, you know it’s illegal to be walking that fast in New York, they’ll write you a ticket.” and I kept walking with her for 5 blocks.

2) The hot ones will go out of their way to meet up with me. It doesn’t fucking make sense but I guess since they rarely get approached like that (and approached so well hey) that maybe they assume I have ultra-high value? This girl went from downtown all the way to uptown to see me. Doesn’t make sense. Like guys are supposed to go see her and here she was going out of her way both logistically and trying to make convo.

3) I get friend-zoned kinda but in a weird way. Not in the humiliating way like I used to when I was an AFC, but in a “You’re making me laugh, but we’re not going to fuck” kind of way. Happened with HB8.5 Blonde russian I picked up last year in this FR (http://yareallyarchive.com/2013/8/#comment-heartiste-471987). Like we are still cool at the end of dates but in a “We should go out/hang-out” kind of way. Not in a “We are going to fuck” kind of way.

4) I’m definitely self-aware that I’m acting different. HB7.5 and below I can carry myself OK. I’m flirty, dominant, etc etc. And I TRY to be that way with HB8.5/9 but it’s almost like they can sniff it out….like quickly. I’m having trouble carrying that daygame street persona to the date I guess. Definitely scared of my own success kinda thing. This Latina from last night is hott….like doesn’t make eye-contact in public kind of hot, like is icy with guys at the club kind of hot, like enjoyed it when I made fun of her and told her congrats when she beat autism kind of hot….cause who says that to her?

Anyways, overall it was a good experience meeting this girl and picking her up and a good Day 3 of 30 for 30 Day Challenge but damn. It’s hella frustrating because I’m mentally sabotaging myself. That and I would like to know if it’s a bad play to be sexual/flirty with these kind of girls. Is that the wrong move? Does every chode act that way around them and you’re better off being chill and subtle?

To find out what I mean by being subtle, see Shocker’s comment from here:

https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2012/10/29/the-age-of-flakes/#comment-381599

Anyway, to all those reading and who have been in my shoes, would love to hear what you have to say.

I’m close to nailing these kind of girls but maybe not at all. The open, the texting, the flirtaciousness and the aloof, flirty vibe were all there…but still it’s like a mental block.


  • Hunter
    on June 4, 2014 at 12:33 pm
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    @Immoralgables

    Lol dude this exact thing happened with me last month with daygame… Russian girl was with her mom, hit on both of them, opened using line from Honest Signalz (If this is what I have to look forward to in 20 years, I want in).

    https://www.youtube.com/user/honestsignalz

    Was with wing who occupied the mom and I sat down with the girl. Totally dominant pickup, push-pulled, future projection, all that. She asked for my number and was down to hangout that night. She was only going to be in town for the weekend. I’d give her a solid 8.

    Then we met up later that night and I basically let her lead everything. Even told me to calm down at one point (with a laugh at the end but that’s just to relieve tension). Ended up at a bar and she asked me what I liked for beer. I said I don’t drink… but I could if she wanted (?) She got frustrated, ended up buying us drinks.

    And as expected it failed. I was nervous, didn’t do shit to lead, she picked up on that and left early. Came ALL the way north from downtown to see me. No physicality from the get-go.

    A lot of things I did wrong in the end, but I see now that setting the lover frame FROM THE GET GO was my issue. Should’ve twirled her around, talked about how good she looked, expressed sexual intent, SOMETHING… anything would’ve been better than setting a frame of chodeyness.

    I’ll write a full FR once I get off work, but I imagine we had similar problems.


    • YaReally
      on June 4, 2014 at 2:01 pm
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      It’s a limitation of “fake it till you make it” when you haven’t quite got the reference experience yet to have “made it”. A 6 can’t tell because you act like you’ve had a bunch of 6s and give no fucks, plus they’re not as socially intuitive. A 9 can tell because you’re acting (in your sub-communications) like you’re “trying” and wanting to “not fuck it up” (VS a 6 where you legit give no fucks if you fuck it up).

      So it’s a combo of slight incongruencies on your end and her being extra perceptive because she’s a 9 and HAS to be more perceptive of that stuff.

      It’s fine, it’ll fix itself over time as you get more experience around these girls and legitimately start to feel abundance. You can have an abundance mentality with 6s while at the same time having scarcity issues with 9s. Or whatever your personal high-value indicators are…you may have no probs with brunettes but change your behavior slightly with blondes etc.

      It’s all in your head though. You’ll probably lose a few of these girls before it sorts itself out. It’s just happening because you’re learning this stuff later in life so the mindsets don’t have solid foundations yet, whereas a Natural will have started forming those foundations at like 14. But the more time you spend around these women the less your brain will trip out and eff you over.

      Try purposely bombing it next time. Like when you meet up be too forward and get in her space and kiss her hello. Believe me the smokin hot girls’ problem isn’t guys being too sexually aggressive with them lol it’s that guys treat them like delicate magic special flowers and put on an overly inoffensive gentleman act around them so as not to offend them and fuck their chances up. The guys they meet who ARE too aggressive are the overcompensating guys who are putting on a “shtick” to preserve their ego where they get blown out but it wasn’t THEM that for blown out cause they were just hamming it up. Ego-preservation. It’s very rare for a smokin hot girl to meet a cool guy who’s sexually aggressive with legit intent/sincerity. That’s why she’ll drive across the city in the hopes that you’re that rare unicorn.

      Also she’s not going to give you blatant ioi’s like a 6. A 6 wants to lock you down so she throws herself at you. A 9 wants to see if you’re confident enough in your value to ASSUME she likes you just because she’s in the same room as you. She doesn’t want to have to tell you (via iois) that she’s attracted to you…the man who’s high-value enough to handle her is the man who with no feedback just assumes she’s attracted to him.

      Think of it like which boss would you trust to steer your company’s ship: the one who’s constantly asking you (his subordinates) “am I doing okay? Is this good enough? Please tell me I’m doing good…” needing you to coddle and reassure him? You gonna feel confident following that guy into battle? Or do you want the guy who’s like “fuck ya, I got this shit handled like a baws” as he charges into battle? You’re gonna trust that that guy knows what he’s doing.

      Get a “real man”‘s rejection. Get blown out for being too sexually aggressive instead of this friend zoned platonic shit. She’ll at least respect you for owning your cock ;) lol


  • YaReally
    on June 5, 2014 at 11:35 pm
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    left a reply for y’all but it’s still in mod :(



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Time to find me a sugar mama lol

As all these post-wall-chicks get frustrated with being alone and guys stop putting in effort to become CEOs and are happy just being self-employed or playing X-Box all day, there’s going to be a lot of sugar mama relationships going on. It’ll be interesting to see how that all pans out.

I predict younger chicks looking at their moms/aunts/grandmas and going “…that doesn’t look like what feminism promised me at all, it’s kind of sad really, maybe I SHOULD learn to cook and clean and generally be a pleasant person that a quality guy would want to wife up…” and then there starts a rush to be “ahead of the pack” by learning legit useful wife skills to make themselves appealing so they don’t end up like that older generation and we end up back in the 1940s lol

The funny part is that this cougar site will be full of lame dudes that the girls will STILL not be sexually attracted to. A guy who gives off fuckworthy vibes would clean the fuck up on that site. It’ll follow the 80/20 rule just like any other version of the SMP.

…that guy would just have to drink heavily to blur out all the wrinkles and sagging lol And have them leave their clothes on when they bang.

Some cougars are legit hot though. They just come with a shitload of baggage/drama and will try to rope you in for life so you gotta’ be careful around ‘em. And of course never fall for one of them ’cause they’re at the end of their sexual worth. Any guy in love and wanting to have kids with a chick who’s like 40+ is fuckin’ nuts.



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Time to find me a sugar mama lol

As all these post-wall-chicks get frustrated with being alone and guys stop putting in effort to become CEOs and are happy just being self-employed or playing X-Box all day, there’s going to be a lot of sugar mama relationships going on. It’ll be interesting to see how that all pans out.

I predict younger chicks looking at their moms/aunts/grandmas and going “…that doesn’t look like what feminism promised me at all, it’s kind of sad really, maybe I SHOULD learn to cook and clean and generally be a pleasant person that a quality guy would want to wife up…” and then there starts a rush to be “ahead of the pack” by learning legit useful wife skills to make themselves appealing so they don’t end up like that older generation and we end up back in the 1940s lol

The funny part is that this cougar site will be full of lame dudes that the girls will STILL not be sexually attracted to. A guy who gives off fuckworthy vibes would clean the fuck up on that site. It’ll follow the 80/20 rule just like any other version of the SMP.

…that guy would just have to drink heavily to blur out all the wrinkles and sagging lol And have them leave their clothes on when they bang.

Some cougars are legit hot though. They just come with a shitload of baggage/drama and will try to rope you in for life so you gotta’ be careful around ‘em. And of course never fall for one of them ’cause they’re at the end of their sexual worth. Any guy in love and wanting to have kids with a chick who’s like 40+ is fuckin’ nuts.



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Whenever I see the Julia Ann’s name I get a mental image of Lisa Ann, the bitch who played Palin in a porno. They should have had her as the spokeswoman, she’s holding her shit together better than Julia.


  • YaReally
    on June 4, 2014 at 1:29 am
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    “I get a mental image of Lisa Ann”

    Would bang.

    Also Kassem doing his interviews is a good example of low-energy game with high sexual intent/innuendo, lots of frame control and cutting threads, crossing lines and calibrating back into neutral territory then crossing lines again, etc. Lots of push-pull/negging too. Dude has really solid game despite being a skinny effeminate looking guy…also I get the vibe that he’s only this way when he’s playing his characters, in real life face to face with a girl I don’t think he would be this unreactive/alpha…but if he WAS, he would get laid like fucking crazy.



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Whenever I see the Julia Ann’s name I get a mental image of Lisa Ann, the bitch who played Palin in a porno. They should have had her as the spokeswoman, she’s holding her shit together better than Julia.


  • YaReally
    on June 4, 2014 at 1:29 am
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    “I get a mental image of Lisa Ann”

    Would bang.

    Also Kassem doing his interviews is a good example of low-energy game with high sexual intent/innuendo, lots of frame control and cutting threads, crossing lines and calibrating back into neutral territory then crossing lines again, etc. Lots of push-pull/negging too. Dude has really solid game despite being a skinny effeminate looking guy…also I get the vibe that he’s only this way when he’s playing his characters, in real life face to face with a girl I don’t think he would be this unreactive/alpha…but if he WAS, he would get laid like fucking crazy.



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  • YaReally
    on June 2, 2014 at 3:54 pm
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    And a relevant video on how playing up the beta Provider role often actually fucks you over because women put you in a box and shame/scold you for trying to climb out of it…if you don’t let yourself get put in that box, you can get away with anything:

    I always joke that if I suddenly became a famous millionaire, I would use a fake name at the bar and tell girls I work at McDonald’s. …but I’m not really joking lol A LOT of what I get away with is because I don’t let girls put me in that restrictive box to begin with.

    On a Day2, a girl will meet up with me at the shit-hole pub down the street where I make her pay for her own drinks and come home with me to fuck me after a couple rounds. When she wants a nice steak dinner she’ll call up one of the guys in this article who’s been txting her all night while we bang, begging for a chance to take her out to dinner.

    The guys in this article, that same girl will be looking at a free $100 steak dinner and expensive wine in front of her and then complain because the wine isn’t her favorite type, and then she’ll disqualify the guy as fuckable or make him “do better” next time and make him wait 3 or 4 dates before she kisses him let alone fucks him.

    It’s not that that the girl is malicious or evil, it’s just that she’s responding to what the guy is presenting to her. If those guys changed their approach, they would get a different result. Women ping off their environment to decide how to feel.



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  • YaReally
    on June 2, 2014 at 3:54 pm
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    And a relevant video on how playing up the beta Provider role often actually fucks you over because women put you in a box and shame/scold you for trying to climb out of it…if you don’t let yourself get put in that box, you can get away with anything:

    I always joke that if I suddenly became a famous millionaire, I would use a fake name at the bar and tell girls I work at McDonald’s. …but I’m not really joking lol A LOT of what I get away with is because I don’t let girls put me in that restrictive box to begin with.

    On a Day2, a girl will meet up with me at the shit-hole pub down the street where I make her pay for her own drinks and come home with me to fuck me after a couple rounds. When she wants a nice steak dinner she’ll call up one of the guys in this article who’s been txting her all night while we bang, begging for a chance to take her out to dinner.

    The guys in this article, that same girl will be looking at a free $100 steak dinner and expensive wine in front of her and then complain because the wine isn’t her favorite type, and then she’ll disqualify the guy as fuckable or make him “do better” next time and make him wait 3 or 4 dates before she kisses him let alone fucks him.

    It’s not that that the girl is malicious or evil, it’s just that she’s responding to what the guy is presenting to her. If those guys changed their approach, they would get a different result. Women ping off their environment to decide how to feel.



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Her overall point is right, but a lot of what she writes is bs. The gay bar thing isn’t really a function of beta male density. Women go there to avoid being hit on by ANY guy, not just a beta guy. And 25 yr old hetero men deliberately hanging out in a gay bar? Yea ok. Lol.


  • yeahokcool
    on June 2, 2014 at 3:30 pm
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    it happens. sure, this is purely anecdotal, but i’ve hooked up multiple times (3x, actually) (with women lol) as a result of nights where i went with a group of friends to a gay club. as it turns out, in each instance, it was some of the easiest access to a same night lay i’ve had. sure, gays are overall complete degenerates and probably are ruining society, but i’ve been casually friends with several homosexual men and women over the years and, on an individual level, some of them are perfectly fine company.


    • YaReally
      on June 2, 2014 at 3:57 pm
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      @Zombie
      Man, you gotta’ quit including me in your weird fantasies. Wife not putting out lately or something? You’re projecting your sexual curiosities all over the place lol


    • YaReally
      on June 2, 2014 at 5:10 pm
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      @Zombie
      Oh man, are you saying I should cancel the big Ecstasy party I was planning to throw for me and a bunch of gay dudes?? It’s cool man, they said they’ll pour my drinks for me!! They talked about sword-fighting but I’m sure they just meant they were going to teach me some fencing moves, right?


    • YaReally
      on June 2, 2014 at 8:55 pm
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      I think it’s pretty safe to assume that Zombie has been raped by gay dudes in the past.

      Zombie, man, it’s not your fault:


    • YaReally
      on June 3, 2014 at 1:06 am
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      @Zombie
      “I have been fighting off the faggots since I was a teenager.”

      Maybe you just look really effeminate. Do you flail your hands when you talk? Do you have a bit of a lisp maybe? I always thought you were a big manly man with all your “I’d kill that guy if he looked at my daughter” talk, but the way you go on and on about gay guys wanting to fuck you, I mean, you must look like their type, right?

      Is this you?:

      http://heartiste.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/bbun8ijcmaa34dl.png

      You can admit it, we’re all here to help you heal! Open your heart to us.



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on June 2, 2014 at 3:08 pm
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Her overall point is right, but a lot of what she writes is bs. The gay bar thing isn’t really a function of beta male density. Women go there to avoid being hit on by ANY guy, not just a beta guy. And 25 yr old hetero men deliberately hanging out in a gay bar? Yea ok. Lol.


  • yeahokcool
    on June 2, 2014 at 3:30 pm
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    it happens. sure, this is purely anecdotal, but i’ve hooked up multiple times (3x, actually) (with women lol) as a result of nights where i went with a group of friends to a gay club. as it turns out, in each instance, it was some of the easiest access to a same night lay i’ve had. sure, gays are overall complete degenerates and probably are ruining society, but i’ve been casually friends with several homosexual men and women over the years and, on an individual level, some of them are perfectly fine company.


    • YaReally
      on June 2, 2014 at 3:57 pm
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      @Zombie
      Man, you gotta’ quit including me in your weird fantasies. Wife not putting out lately or something? You’re projecting your sexual curiosities all over the place lol


    • YaReally
      on June 2, 2014 at 5:10 pm
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      @Zombie
      Oh man, are you saying I should cancel the big Ecstasy party I was planning to throw for me and a bunch of gay dudes?? It’s cool man, they said they’ll pour my drinks for me!! They talked about sword-fighting but I’m sure they just meant they were going to teach me some fencing moves, right?


    • YaReally
      on June 2, 2014 at 8:55 pm
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      I think it’s pretty safe to assume that Zombie has been raped by gay dudes in the past.

      Zombie, man, it’s not your fault:


    • YaReally
      on June 3, 2014 at 1:06 am
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      @Zombie
      “I have been fighting off the faggots since I was a teenager.”

      Maybe you just look really effeminate. Do you flail your hands when you talk? Do you have a bit of a lisp maybe? I always thought you were a big manly man with all your “I’d kill that guy if he looked at my daughter” talk, but the way you go on and on about gay guys wanting to fuck you, I mean, you must look like their type, right?

      Is this you?:

      You can admit it, we’re all here to help you heal! Open your heart to us.